First Date Suggestions
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Innocent X wrote: Long Tan.
Wait is Long tan the place on 5th and Union? With the glass wall/doors that are opened up when the weather is warm? On the same side of the street at Brooklyn Industries? -
Flexichick wrote: A date is a date. If you ask a woman out you pay. Doesn't matter if it's $10 or $200. Go someplace w.in your budget.
This seems reasonable to me if the guy issues the invitation, but if I were to ask a guy out, I should expect to pay. (I think that's Miss Manners's advice about it, anyway.)
Mind you, I'd be too chicken to ask someone out. Lucky my bf is more aggressive.
FWIW, I've always offered to pay on first dates. The guys always turned me down, so then I offered to pay for dessert or to get the check next time. I did this to signal that a) I was interested in a second date, and b) I did not expect the guy to pay for everything.
I thought that was a good way to handle the who-pays-what problem, but a couple of guys were offended that I even offered. How do others feel about this? -
Subject: Convivium
I passed on this place for a first date- it's mostly communal seating! How uncomfortable would that be? -
I passed on Convivium, I should have said......
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veets wrote: Cocotte is a little pricey but lovely food and very romantic. Perhaps too romantic for a first date. I like The Chip shoppe for a first date.. reasonable prices, bright room and a happy feeling. save the intimate place for date two if there uis to be one.
Sheesh.. I am quoting myself but have to tell you that it is Thursday Nite and I just came back from Cocotte. Thursday entrees are 2 for the price of one ( so that will bring the prive down to out first date poster's range a little) and we ate at the bar. The restaurant was packed so we waited at the bar and had a drink and after afew minutes realized that it made sense to order food there rather than wait for a vacant table out front where it was pretty loud and drafty.. There was one other couple eating. It was a wicked cold night and the back bar was warm and comfortable. The lovely bartender was gracious, efficient and delightful. The food was above gorgeous. . First date or not... check out the bar and if it is quiet at the bar eat there... the bar stools are more comfortable than the chairs in the restaurant.
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I just got back from Alchemy and thought it was rubbish. Liked the room, did not like the food, and the service was clumsy. Horrid wine selection, also.
Flatbush farm does the "gastropub" thing far more successfully at similar prices. -
Mamacita wrote: [quote=Innocent X]Long Tan.
Wait is Long tan the place on 5th and Union? With the glass wall/doors that are opened up when the weather is warm? On the same side of the street at Brooklyn Industries?
Mamita, I think you're talking about 200 Fifth - dark wood and glass exterior that opens up - one room restaurant bar, other room sports bar.
Next door is Long Tan, which would be a good low key first date. Bar leading to airy mod dining room.
I love Barbes, but it's a bit of a dark hole for a first date.
How about Cafe Steinhoff? -
Captain Salty wrote: Beet
I thought Beet suck. Or not suck? -
Does Miss Manners say that if the date is not going well that you should just continue until it's over and graciously exit? Or that you should be truthful and bail at the first sign of incompatability? I went on a date once (with a guy who smelled like pickles) and when we got to the end of dinner, he handed me the bill to pay my portion. I looked like a deer caught in headlights. I have also never gone dutch and took that as an insult, I suppose. I guess I expected the guy to be a gentleman even if there was no attraction and just pay the bill and part ways politely. Plus, I had to sit there and suffer the olfactory assault of pickle fumes the whole night.
As a first date place, I wouldn't mind something like tapas. Do we have any such place in the slope? For choices around here, I personally wouldn't want something too cozy, quiet, or intimate; that's too much pressure. I might like a drink and appetizers at a bar. I've never had a bad time at Blue Ribbon. Has anyone seen the new bar and revisions to that place wrongly name The Comfort Zone? It's called something else now and has a really cute front bar area with a nice little crowd last I went. -
"smelled like pickles". That's just wrong in so many ways. It also made me truly laugh out loud.
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BTW, if the guy was such a boring, smelly freak, I'd expect him to pay for dinner as combat pay for having to sit there for 1-2 hours holding my breath.
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GiGi wrote: Does Miss Manners say that if the date is not going well that you should just continue until it's over and graciously exit? Or that you should be truthful and bail at the first sign of incompatability? I went on a date once (with a guy who smelled like pickles) and when we got to the end of dinner, he handed me the bill to pay my portion. I looked like a deer caught in headlights. I have also never gone dutch and took that as an insult, I suppose. I guess I expected the guy to be a gentleman even if there was no attraction and just pay the bill and part ways politely. Plus, I had to sit there and suffer the olfactory assault of pickle fumes the whole night.
Here are the rules, Miss Deer in Headlights:
Whoever invites someone to go on an official date should pay; the inviter pays for the invitee. Classy invitees who can afford to contribute always offer some money towards the bill.
We're not living in Nebraska in the 1950s and, since women's saleries are begining to catch up with men's in many industries, we can't assume that men must always invite and pay their dates (unless we're only talking about same-sex male couples). If we're dealing with Wally Cleaver and Mary Ellen Rogers in 2007, Wally invites Mary Ellen to Blue Ribbon Sushi on 5th Avenue and offers to pay, but Mary Ellen, who makes almost as much money as Wally as a software engineer, offers to throw down some cash. However, after Mary Ellen and Wally leave Blue Ribbon Sushi, the 50% Split Rule should be applied to any below-the-belt physical activities that may or may not occur between Mary Ellen and Wally. The one exception being if Mary Ellen is wearing dental braces, which would require the enforcement of the %25 Raincheck Rule. Is this clear? -
raw wrote: [quote=GiGi]Does Miss Manners say that if the date is not going well that you should just continue until it's over and graciously exit? Or that you should be truthful and bail at the first sign of incompatability? I went on a date once (with a guy who smelled like pickles) and when we got to the end of dinner, he handed me the bill to pay my portion. I looked like a deer caught in headlights. I have also never gone dutch and took that as an insult, I suppose. I guess I expected the guy to be a gentleman even if there was no attraction and just pay the bill and part ways politely. Plus, I had to sit there and suffer the olfactory assault of pickle fumes the whole night.
Here are the rules, Miss Deer in Headlights:
Whoever invites someone to go on an official date should pay; the inviter pays for the invitee. Classy invitees who can afford to contribute always offer some money towards the bill.
We're not living in Nebraska in the 1950s and, since women's saleries are begining to catch up with men's in many industries, we can't assume that men must always invite and pay their dates (unless we're only talking about same-sex male couples). If we're dealing with Wally Cleaver and Mary Ellen Rogers in 2007, Wally invites Mary Ellen to Blue Ribbon Sushi on 5th Avenue and offers to pay, but Mary Ellen, who makes almost as much money as Wally as a software engineer, offers to throw down some cash. However, after Mary Ellen and Wally leave Blue Ribbon Sushi, the 50% Split Rule should be applied to any below-the-belt physical activities that may or may not occur between Mary Ellen and Wally. The one exception being if Mary Ellen is wearing dental braces, which would require the enforcement of the %25 Raincheck Rule. Is this clear?
:shock: :oops:
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raw wrote: However, after Mary Ellen and Wally leave Blue Ribbon Sushi, the 50% Split Rule should be applied to any below-the-belt physical activities that may or may not occur between Mary Ellen and Wally. The one exception being if Mary Ellen is wearing dental braces, which would require the enforcement of the %25 Raincheck Rule.
This made me giggle.
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Soooooo.....Wexlerglazer - where did you go and how was the date?!
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You know, while cliche, never underestimate the Brooklyn Botanic Gardens. I went there on a first date yesterday and then over to 4th avenue pub which had a 241
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Hey Big Guy! Didn't you meet your better half at the bar of Cocotte?
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sprite wrote: [quote=Flexichick]A date is a date. If you ask a woman out you pay. Doesn't matter if it's $10 or $200. Go someplace w.in your budget.
This seems reasonable to me if the guy issues the invitation, but if I were to ask a guy out, I should expect to pay. (I think that's Miss Manners's advice about it, anyway.)
Mind you, I'd be too chicken to ask someone out. Lucky my bf is more aggressive.
FWIW, I've always offered to pay on first dates. The guys always turned me down, so then I offered to pay for dessert or to get the check next time. I did this to signal that a) I was interested in a second date, and b) I did not expect the guy to pay for everything.
I thought that was a good way to handle the who-pays-what problem, but a couple of guys were offended that I even offered. How do others feel about this?
I love to treat people to dinner but on the condition that they offer to put something in. I always reject it, but its very much that gesture that counts with me, plus I think I'd only be comfortable moving forward with someone who is as considerate of social mores as myself.
As for Flatbush Farm, I went to their weird (read: delicious) brunch cookout a few weeks ago and it was nice, I'm curious to go back there and have a proper meal soon...Also I think Frannys is an inspired choice for a first date. Now to rustle up a first date...
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