50 Signs That You May Be An Asshole Restaurant Customer
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Love that #22
Happy to say I don't think I've been guilty of any of them -
#23
i done that in alot of places, well I don't know where to sit and I been standing in front of the entrance way for like 10 mins. nobody comes, so I just sits myself down. -
I'm a total jerk with the server's name thing. that's probably the only one on that list I'm guilty of.
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The comments are the most enlightening part - you really get a window into the thought process that goes into rationalizing boorish behavior.
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OK, I've been guilty of #12 on occasion.
But I need it!
You wouldn't tell someone with diabetes that they couldn't bring their insulin...
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hmmmm. Some thoughts on the ones I thought were a little nitpicky:
2) You ask for separate checks after you’ve finished your meal.
Unless it is stated to you, how are you supposed to know to ask for separate checks beforehand? Also, who discusses how they are going to pay before eating?
8) You request a list of the CD’s we’re playing on the house stereo.
And what is wrong with this? Someone likes your music? That's a good thing. The customer likes the vibe.
11) You tell the waiter you’re allergic to something when you’re not.
Sometimes the only way a person can guarantee that the chef will make a dish truly vegetarian, as some people seem to think fish are vegetables, is to state you're allergic. I don't agree with this practice, but I understand why people do this.
39) You make the waiter recite the specials five times.
Seriously? Perhaps the place is too loud, the waiter's voice too soft, or they are so complicated that you can't possibly remember them all. -
doublediamond wrote: hmmmm. Some thoughts on the ones I thought were a little nitpicky:
If you knew anything about the biz, checks are a bitch to split, especially if you're on the handwriting system. They're time consuming, it throws off the servers flow, and now the other tables are wondering what the fuck your doing in the back. (well shit let's see----taking phone orders, trying to get change of a hundred from the other servers, making cappuccino (ARGH!), bussing tables cause I can't find the busboy to save my life.....oh yeah, and now the bitches at table four want me to split their check!)
2) You ask for separate checks after you’ve finished your meal.
Unless it is stated to you, how are you supposed to know to ask for separate checks beforehand? Also, who discusses how they are going to pay before eating?
Bottom line: it saves the servers TIME. Respect it.
So if you see the place is jumpin, and you even think you will be splitting checks, speak up to the others in your party and figure it out.
Who discusses it? I do.
NOTE: I am no longer a server. As you can tell, I was not cut out for the gig. Sorry for the rant. -
check splitting versus pay splitting?
like, if you and your friends figure out (with tip included)
A should pay $25
B should pay $50 (drunk!)
C should pay $35
and B wants to charge her $50 and the others want to drop cash - is that more/less/equally painful as busting up a check? I've always thought it was less painful, which is why I never say anything about breaking up a check. I usually say stuff like "okay, this red credit card ... $50. the black one? $100." etc -
Actually, I lied. I do #11.
I absolutely hate raw peppers - red, yellow or green. If a generic description of a salad is listed, I always ask specifically if there are peppers on the salad.
If it seems like all ingredients are listed (e.g. lettuce, carrots, radishes, tomatoes, croutons), I sometimes forget to ask. Then, surprise!
Fucking peppers!
I can always still taste the "pepper juice" if the salad is brought back to the kitchen and the peppers are just picked off.
So, if I get either "surprise peppers" or peppers after specifying "No peppers, please", I will say I am allergic and ask for a fresh salad.
Also, I agree - if somebody likes the music you are playing, that's a good thing. -
Exactly Nadia, people need to do one or the other.
As for the music thing, no one minds if you ask what's playing, they mind having to make a list. Again, refer to my post above. TIME consuming.
That's all. -
Whatchuwant wrote: [quote=doublediamond]hmmmm. Some thoughts on the ones I thought were a little nitpicky:
If you knew anything about the biz, checks are a bitch to split, especially if you're on the handwriting system. They're time consuming, it throws off the servers flow, and now the other tables are wondering what the fuck your doing in the back. (well shit let's see----taking phone orders, trying to get change of a hundred from the other servers, making cappuccino (ARGH!), bussing tables cause I can't find the busboy to save my life.....oh yeah, and now the bitches at table four want me to split their check!)
2) You ask for separate checks after you’ve finished your meal.
Unless it is stated to you, how are you supposed to know to ask for separate checks beforehand? Also, who discusses how they are going to pay before eating?
Bottom line: it saves the servers TIME. Respect it.
So if you see the place is jumpin, and you even think you will be splitting checks, speak up to the others in your party and figure it out.
Who discusses it? I do.
NOTE: I am no longer a server. As you can tell, I was not cut out for the gig. Sorry for the rant.
The point is that a lot people are NOT in the biz, and DON'T know it's a pain. If it's undesired, then it should be communicated to the patrons beforehand. People aren't thinking about how they can make the lives of their waitstaff easier, and frankly, that tip I'm giving you is why you're going to give me the good service and two separate checks if someone in my party decides that's what he/she needs.
Also, if you want to engage in a real discussion, refrain from calling women bitches and being a general asshole to a stranger on the board. If you wouldn't talk to someone like that in person because it would be rude and embarrassing, don't do it on the board. -
doublediamond wrote: [quote=Whatchuwant]If you knew anything about the biz, checks are a bitch to split, especially if you're on the handwriting system. They're time consuming, it throws off the servers flow, and now the other tables are wondering what the fuck your doing in the back. (well shit let's see----taking phone orders, trying to get change of a hundred from the other servers, making cappuccino (ARGH!), bussing tables cause I can't find the busboy to save my life.....oh yeah, and now the bitches at table four want me to split their check!)
The point is that a lot people are NOT in the biz, and DON'T know it's a pain. If it's undesired, then it should be communicated to the patrons beforehand. People aren't thinking about how they can make the lives of their waitstaff easier, and frankly, that tip I'm giving you is why you're going to give me the good service and two separate checks if someone in my party decides that's what he/she needs.
Bottom line: it saves the servers TIME. Respect it.
So if you see the place is jumpin, and you even think you will be splitting checks, speak up to the others in your party and figure it out.
Also, if you want to engage in a real discussion, refrain from calling women bitches and being a general asshole to a stranger on the board. If you wouldn't talk to someone like that in person because it would be rude and embarrassing, don't do it on the board.
I don't think you need to have been a waiter to figure out that splitting a check is a pain. And yes, waitpeople are there to give you good service, but there's also something to be said for showing some forethought and courtesy. Some of us DO think about not creating extra hassles for people in service positions.
As for "calling women bitches", it seems to me that Whatchuwant was simply describing the typical mental state of an overworked waitperson, especially towards customers who seem oblivious and/or entitled. Again, I don't think one needs to be in the biz to recognize that waiting tables in a busy establishment is frickin' hard work, and your waiter is probably not going to retire to Tahiti any time soon from the fantastic tips. -
I'm just laughing because DD's signature line is "I believe in peace, BITCH"
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Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too.
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laura wrote: Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too.
Somehow I just knew you'd notice that too, Laura -
laura wrote: [quote=doublediamond][quote=Whatchuwant]If you knew anything about the biz, checks are a bitch to split, especially if you're on the handwriting system. They're time consuming, it throws off the servers flow, and now the other tables are wondering what the fuck your doing in the back. (well shit let's see----taking phone orders, trying to get change of a hundred from the other servers, making cappuccino (ARGH!), bussing tables cause I can't find the busboy to save my life.....oh yeah, and now the bitches at table four want me to split their check!)
The point is that a lot people are NOT in the biz, and DON'T know it's a
Bottom line: it saves the servers TIME. Respect it.
So if you see the place is jumpin, and you even think you will be splitting checks, speak up to the others in your party and figure it out.
pain. If it's undesired, then it should be communicated to the patrons beforehand. People aren't thinking about how they can make the lives of their waitstaff easier, and frankly, that tip I'm giving you is why you're going to give me the good service and two separate checks if someone in my party decides that's what he/she needs.
Also, if you want to engage in a real discussion, refrain from calling women bitches and being a general asshole to a stranger on the board. If you wouldn't talk to someone like that in person because it would be rude and embarrassing, don't do it on the board.
I don't think you need to have been a waiter to figure out that splitting a check is a pain. And yes, waitpeople are there to give you good service, but there's also something to be said for showing some forethought and courtesy. Some of us DO think about not creating extra hassles for people in service positions.
As for "calling women bitches", it seems to me that Whatchuwant was simply describing the typical mental state of an overworked waitperson, especially towards customers who seem oblivious and/or entitled. Again, I don't think one needs to be in the biz to recognize that waiting tables in a busy establishment is frickin' hard work, and your waiter is probably not going to retire to Tahiti any time soon from the fantastic tips.
Uh, you may not realize- I am a woman, I am a bitch, and I don't refrain from calling people bitches in person if they are.
That said, Laura's correct (thanks, btw, for the defense. Wanna be my lawyer?), I was simply describing the mental state of servers who MAY in fact be calling you a bitch behind your back, especially if you're being super-demanding.
Listen, as you've seen from the original website, servers are the WORST customers. So I know when I ask for something that's gonna send the server over the edge, I KNOW they're gonna call me a bitch behind my back. And what do I do? I am generous with my money. I realize that I'm a pain in the ass and I compensate for it.
While we're kinda on the subject of tipping- I would like to add that doubling the tax is NOT a good tip. Do the math: if you double NY state tax (8.25%), that's only 16.5%. A good tip for a hard working server is 20%. Please make a note of it.
Oh yeah, and for the record I was not calling double diamond a bitch. She actually edited my comment at the end where I APOLOGIZED for the rant.
Don't take it personally- k, hon?
See, THIS is why I'm not in the biz anymore..... -
I think the problem with lying about allergies is that people with real (and often bizarre) allergies get ignored to a degree. I, for instance, am allergic to eggplant. that shit pops up in lots of middle eastern and mediterranean food. so I make it clear (and learn how to say it in native languages of countries I'm visiting) that I'm allergic to it and that eating it for me could trigger my death. and I get kinda sick of having to repeat, in this country, "no, I'll get really sick and could die if you feed me eggplant. please, just tell me if something has eggplant in it". a waitress at carmines, for instance, heard me ask 3 times if some food had eggplant in it, and then brought out a lasagna that totally had a layer of eggplant (I spotted it). she was faux apologetic, which was infuriating.
heck, at dim sum today, armchair kept ordering this eggplant thing, and every time I went by me I was flinching. like, please ... keep the devil vegetable away from me. heh.
speaking of, I need an epi pen. -
Whatchuwant wrote: See, THIS is why I'm not in the biz anymore.....
I wouldn't last a day as a waitress. I'd end up plunging a fork into someone's head. -
Yeah, I came really close a couple of times....I wonder if I was serving DD!
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LADIES.
A friendly mod note.
There's a very fine difference between saying someone's behaving like an asshole or a bitch and CALLING them an asshole or a bitch, perhaps too fine a difference for the purposes of what we consider acceptable here. Both of you, please take a moment to read the rules (easily accessible through the big honkin' "READ THE RULES" link at the top of every page of the site) and be nice. Please? -
Whatchuwant wrote:
Because of the way you used "bitches" in your answer, it seemed as if you were directing that language at me, incorporating me into your "table of bitches" for your example.
Uh, you may not realize- I am a woman, I am a bitch, and I don't refrain from calling people bitches in person if they are.
That said, Laura's correct (thanks, btw, for the defense. Wanna be my lawyer?), I was simply describing the mental state of servers who MAY in fact be calling you a bitch behind your back, especially if you're being super-demanding.
Listen, as you've seen from the original website, servers are the WORST customers. So I know when I ask for something that's gonna send the server over the edge, I KNOW they're gonna call me a bitch behind my back. And what do I do? I am generous with my money. I realize that I'm a pain in the ass and I compensate for it.
While we're kinda on the subject of tipping- I would like to add that doubling the tax is NOT a good tip. Do the math: if you double NY state tax (8.25%), that's only 16.5%. A good tip for a hard working server is 20%. Please make a note of it.
Oh yeah, and for the record I was not calling double diamond a bitch. She actually edited my comment at the end where I APOLOGIZED for the rant.
Don't take it personally- k, hon?
See, THIS is why I'm not in the biz anymore.....
If that's not what you were doing, that's fine. I don't think it's cool to call other women bitches, but if that's what you want to do...
I checked my original response to you , and I didn't cut off your apology at the end. I'm not sure why you're seeing that. I think Laura's quote of me did it.
And just to be clear, I'm not super demanding and don't split checks. I'm a pretty good customer to wait on. My point is that it's absurd to expect customers to be thinking about this and to get mad at them for it. You said yourself you know about the check thing because of being in "the biz."
Look, I understand that it's a pain to be waitstaff. It's a job I don't have the temperment for. But, this stuff comes with the job and customers who are not being rude shouldn't be called names because they're not thinking they way you want them to. -
Flexichick wrote: I'm just laughing because DD's signature line is "I believe in peace, BITCH"
It's a line from a song, called THE WAITRESS.
I swear to God! -
I think alot of people who have never been in retail or the service industry really have no clue how much you have to put up with. The people treating you like an idiot because of where you work. Having to suck it up and be nice to every customer, no matter how awful you feel, what you're going through, or how nasty some of them can be. And for, at best, a little more than minimum wage.
Some customers like to use us as their personal punching bags. Have a shitty day? Demean the cashier or belittle your server! Come on, how hard is it to figure out how much you have to pay when you get one bill? And if it's that important to you, ask for separate checks in the beginning. It's a small thing a customer can do that won't make a server's job even harder. Like Laura, I wouldn't last a day as a waitress either. Customers can be demanding at my job but the longest I have to deal with them is 15 minutes or so.
I happen to be very fortunate though, my awesome customers outweigh the nasty ones. Some old rich guy decides to make himself feel more important by belittling me or a pretentious witch barely deigns to acknowledge me as she throws her credit card at me. But one of my favorite customers comes in and I remember that they are the important ones. The ones who I chat with, discover one has beat cancer, another quit her long hated job, someone else is having family trouble, etc... My great customers make up for all the nasty ones in spades. -
doublediamond wrote: I don't think it's cool to call other women bitches, but if that's what you want to do as a woman... that's your issue.
Since this topic is about "Why you might be an asshole customer", I'm not sure why calling female customers "bitches" is so out of line.doublediamond wrote: My point is that it's absurd to expect customers to be thinking about this and to get mad at them for it. You said yourself you know about the check thing because of being in "the biz."
I don't think it's absurd at all. As I said, I'm not in the biz, but I have common sense enough to know that splitting a check means causing an already overworked person extra work - and, I really don't understand why a party wouldn't realize they needed separate checks to begin with. I mean, c'mon. -
See, laura, this is one of the many reasons you rock. It's always a pleasure when you come into the store, wish you still lived closer!
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caseopele wrote: See, laura, this is one of the many reasons you rock. It's always a pleasure when you come into the store, wish you still lived closer!
That Laura chick is alright. Just sayin'
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Aw, shucks. Thanks you guys. Mwah! Mwah!
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doublediamond wrote: [quote=Flexichick]I'm just laughing because DD's signature line is "I believe in peace, BITCH"
It's a line from a song, called THE WAITRESS.
I swear to God!
It is indeed. Just to edify, for those not familiar with it:Tori Amos wrote: "The Waitress"
Somewhere around here I have a pendant that reads "I believe in peace, bitch" that I bought at a concert around '95 or so.
So I want to kill this waitress
She's worked here a year longer than I
If I did it fast you know that's an act of kindness
But I believe in peace
I believe in peace Bitch
I believe in peace
I believe in peace
But I believe in peace
I believe in peace Bitch
I believe in peace
I want to kill this waitress
I can't believe this violence in mind
And is her power all in her club sandwich
But I believe in peace
I believe in peace Bitch
I believe in peace
I believe in peace
But I believe in peace
I believe in peace Bitch
I believe in peace
I want to kill this killing wish
They're too many stars and not enough sky
Boys all think she's living kindness
Ask a fellow waitress
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Btw, anyone here a fan of the film 'Betty Blue'? You know when she and Zorg try working at the pizza restaurant and she stabs the woman customer in the arm with a fork? That would be me.
I worked in retail for many years ... bartended a bit. Now I work at home. -
laura wrote: [quote=doublediamond]I don't think it's cool to call other women bitches, but if that's what you want to do as a woman... that's your issue.
Since this topic is about "Why you might be an asshole customer", I'm not sure why calling female customers "bitches" is so out of line.doublediamond wrote: My point is that it's absurd to expect customers to be thinking about this and to get mad at them for it. You said yourself you know about the check thing because of being in "the biz."
I don't think it's absurd at all. As I said, I'm not in the biz, but I have common sense enough to know that splitting a check means causing an already overworked person extra work - and, I really don't understand why a party wouldn't realize they needed separate checks to begin with. I mean, c'mon.
I'm also not a fan of calling women bitches because it's a putdown of women.
When women stand up for themselves, they're bitches. When women speak their minds, they're bitches. When women reject the advances of men on the street, they're bitches. This word is very much in line with the "n" word to me: derogatory.
My point about the check-splitting is that most people don't know it's a pain in the ass. They're not being assholes. They just don't know it's a pain for the waitperson. I do think it's unreasonable to expect someone to know it's extra work.
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