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Drano wrote: [quote=nice dude]
Jackson says: "I'm a lover, not a fighter".
Have we learned nothing from the Meow Wars? -
Maybe Drunken Guest is a freegan. He doesn't shop because he gets all his food via urban foraging.
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Drunken Guest is a revolutionary Marxist sworn to liberate foodstuffs from the corrupt capitalist hegemon on behalf of the oppressed proletariat.
In practice, this consists of palming Snickers bars at the local Yemeni-owned bodega. -
this the most hilarious thread EVAR! You guys have me laughing here at work. :-)
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Carnivore wrote: Maybe Drunken Guest is a freegan. He doesn't shop because he gets all his food via urban foraging.
Isn't a freegan a hobo with a trust fund? -
Carnivore wrote: So do you get all your nutrition in the form of booze? If you don't shop, what do you eat?
alcoholics get all of their calories from booze. sometimes they drink screwdrivers to keep scurvy away, and bloody mary's to stay regular. but ... $80 on booze? that's nothing. that'll get you one bottle of frickin' white star at the bubble lounge. -
Maybe he's a Steppenwolf. One side wants nothing but booze and desperate women, while the other side fights to maintain a bourgeois balance of community consumerism and ambiance elevation.
Hopefully, the Steppwolfian desire for suicide comes with the package... -
Carnivore wrote: FD has De Cecco pasta for $1.39 a box. It's like $1.69 in most places that carry it around here. And I go through a lot of it.
Organic butter also costs close to half as much. ($4 instead of $8 for a box of four sticks)
There's pretty much nothing I buy that's more expensive, and quite a few things that are less expensive, than at the grocery. -
alafairnadia wrote: but ... $80 on booze? that's nothing. that'll get you one bottle of frickin' white star at the bubble lounge.
I dunno... Drunken Guest seems like a well drink kind of guy.
He's definitely no El Flailey. :twisted: -
I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY? -
Drunken Guest is kensingtonmom.
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Drano wrote: Drunken Guest is kensingtonmom.
hehe. Or the demon spawn of kensingtonmom. -
Boygabriel wrote: I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
Yeah, but what else is Iowa good for?
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY? -
Boygabriel wrote: I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
I resent people who buy produce from "local" farms in NJ and NY when they could grow all their produce hydroponically on their windowsill, like me. I also grow my own chickens, cows (for half-and-half), and geese (for cruelty-free foie gras).
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY?
Why must all you philistines tread so heavily on Mother Earth? WHY? -
Iowa is good for producing food for Iowa and thus preventing FD trucks from uglifying Iowan neighborhoods.
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Boygabriel wrote: I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
because there's a limit to my patience for turnips in the winter. a very low limit. (i'm a philistine, i know. but i shop local in the summer.)
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY? -
Boygabriel wrote: I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
So we can clog up I-95 with cars, to get to the "lovely local farms"? Even the stuff from the almighty food Co-op gets trucked in.
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY?
And the elves don't bring the local produce, et al, to the greenmarkets.
or do they? -
I order from Fresh Direct to upset people like you.
Oh - and time and convenience. -
bklyngirl wrote: [quote=Boygabriel]I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
So we can clog up I-95 with cars, to get to the "lovely local farms"? Even the stuff from the almighty food Co-op gets trucked in.
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY?
And the elves don't bring the local produce, et al, to the greenmarkets.
or do they?
my bad, i meant: why do you clog up I-80 with your cross-country produce?
reduce your highway clogging footprint.
buy local produce. -
My most humble and sincere apologies for my comments. The post I replied to sounded very flip, and that's what I was responding to. I was wrong.
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Boygabriel wrote: [quote=bklyngirl][quote=Boygabriel]I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
So we can clog up I-95 with cars, to get to the "lovely local farms"? Even the stuff from the almighty food Co-op gets trucked in.
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY?
And the elves don't bring the local produce, et al, to the greenmarkets.
or do they?
my bad, i meant: why do you clog up I-80 with your cross-country produce?
reduce your highway clogging footprint.
buy local produce.
Unles you grow it in your own back yard, or WALK over to the Red Hook Farm and volunteer, you have no justification in complaining about traffic created by food deliveries. It doesn't matter WHICH highway the trucks take - the food must be delivered here somehow. Even to the "lovely bodegas" -
Boygabriel wrote: I resent people who buy produce at grocery store chains that has been trucked all the way from iowa or california.
What right do you have to clog up the truck lane on I-95 with your cross-country produce when we have lovely local farms right here in NJ and NY?
Puh-leese. Add a little logic to your statements. There can't possibly be enough produce in the tri-state to supply the entire city. The city is as big as it is BECAUSE of the interstate. Not to say that the interstate is a great thing, but your apartment would still be a farm house out in the rolling country hills of Brooklyn without it. -
Subject: #2 Lets Make A List
2. I have to agree in spirit. We need to keep Brooklyn non-corporate. The majority of small businesses in Park Slope and the surrounding neighborhoods are great in value and selection. There are gems everywhere. Further, many of these businesses are the very reason why so many people have come to Brooklyn over the years, and they deserve our support and thanks.
Mr. Lee's Fruit and Vegetable Store on 7th Avenue b/w 11-12th Street has the best vegetables in Brooklyn. He and his wife opened the first Fruit and Vegetable Store in Park Slope, and they have spent over 20 years doing what they do best: the best fruits and vegetables. And best of all, you can meet the hand that feeds you.
Fresh Direct, Walmart, CVS, Radio Shack, ETC ...
Corporate Stores contribute very little to the Slope that we cannot find somewhere else ... somewhere local. -
fresh direct is not teh horribal. it's not fuckin' walmart. so just stop with that direction.
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Subject: Stop With That? Shoot, I'll End With That!
I was trying to make a reasonable observation from experience. The revitalization of Brooklyn, over the last 20 years, owes much of its success to the small business community. Outside corporate interests, reguardless of their good faith, can be detrimental to the economic and the social growth of Park Slope, and the surrounding neighborhoods. You missed the point.
Having said that, I believe long term landowners have a VERY LARGE PART in shaping the future of Park Slope, and SOME OF US don't take these issues lightly. When you spend as many years as WE HAVE fighting for this neighborhood, back in the 70's and 80's, when most people chose not to live here, you might know what I am talking about.
I'm talking about communty. I am talking about a better place than the one corporate American is offering.
I'm talking about keeping Brooklyn BROOKLYN
Fresh direct, sure ... use it.
CVS? Hey ... clean your fucking sidewalks, and be a neighbor
Walmart? Too big .. no way
Of course, you could just go down to Mr. Lee's and get the best anyway.
I'll end with that. -
Yes, all food must be transported somewhere unless you grow it yourself.
There is, however, a big difference in a truck making a delivery to a store to distribute food to 1,000 people versus a truck making 1,000 deliveries to 1,000 people. -
Subject: Re: Stop With That? Shoot, I'll End With That!
charlesbklyn wrote: I was trying to make a reasonable observation from experience. The revitalization of Brooklyn, over the last 20 years, owes much of its success to the small business community.
I can't wait to see the long line of happy people waiting to get into Whole Foods, which is WalMart in for the upscale. BIG BOX, BABY
I'm talking about communty. I am talking about a better place than the one corporate American is offering.
I'm talking about keeping Brooklyn BROOKLYN
Fresh direct, sure ... use it.
CVS? Hey ... clean your fucking sidewalks, and be a neighbor
Walmart? Too big .. no way
Of course, you could just go down to Mr. Lee's and get the best anyway.
I'll end with that. -
BwaaHaHaHaHa - ah, the ever-so-effective 'before you gentrifiers/hipsters/suburbanites came along...' argument...
charlesbklyn wrote: Outside corporate interests, reguardless of their good faith, can be detrimental to the economic and the social growth of Park Slope, and the surrounding neighborhoods.
So, not arguing for an influx of large stores, but if these big corporations don't bring anything valuable to the table, how is it that they're successful? Obviously people patronize them because they can get something (product or service) there that they don't get elsewhere. Small business owners need to stop hiding their heads in the sand on this and use it to their advantage, rather than trying to rally the troops against the big, evil machine. -
WhyFi wrote: BwaaHaHaHaHa - ah, the ever-so-effective 'before you gentrifiers/hipsters/suburbanites came along...' argument...
So, not arguing for an influx of large stores, but if these big corporations don't bring anything valuable to the table, how is it that they're successful? Obviously people patronize them because they can get something (product or service) there that they don't get elsewhere. Small business owners need to stop hiding their heads in the sand on this and use it to their advantage, rather than trying to rally the troops against the big, evil machine.
[quote=charlesbklyn]Outside corporate interests, reguardless of their good faith, can be detrimental to the economic and the social growth of Park Slope, and the surrounding neighborhoods.
VOLUME, VOLUME, VOLUME
The big retailers can sell for a lot less because they can purchase inventory for their entire chain, rather than just one small store. This can result in significant price cuts. Your neighborhood bodega buys full wholesale at Jetro, which, although cheap, is still about double what a large chain store pays for their goods.
The lower prices result in a larger volume of sales, which in turn brings in a larger amount of revenue overall -
I love Mr. Lee's. Mr. Lee's is great. But you can't do all your food shopping there. Though between Mr. Lee's and the overgrown bodega/small supermarket on the corner of 11th Street, and the wine store that's also right there, you could probably get pretty much everything you need.
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