noise from lincoln place apts
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Things are only going to get worse. Yesterday was the first day of Outdoor Loudness Season (OLS).
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Subject: Lincoln place noise
Yes, the noise is a big problem.. we recently moved into one of the rental buildings on eastern parkway. There are a few noisy tenants in our building as well as the attached building on lincoln place. We called 311 at least half a dozen times because of a neighbor adjacent to our apartment. I think the police actually do respond to these calls from time to time. An officer from the 77th precinct called us back and said they will issue a summons or even take the speakers away if a tenant is being a persistent problem. So I would keep calling 311. It helps if you can figure out which apartment is causing the problem. -
i hear it. i've called 311 as well on "carl's place," they are not open late except for private parties...recently they were booming till 4.30am. no one in the city cares. we have to all continue to report the problems and not assume someone else will. maybe someday someone will care. arghh! till then i just lean out my window and tell them shut the f up!
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Where do you draw the line between being crabby and having a valid comlaint. I for one cant wait to break out my gas powered mini scooter and ride it around the neighborhood all night. WOOHOO!
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somebody's just begging for an egging..
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This is the year that I fight back. I've got the speakers in the window. I've got my iPod cued up with Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music and several dozen tracks of German oom-pah-pah music.
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Subject: Noise
Why not move to the suburbs if noise bothers you so much? I live on Lincoln Place and have no problem with the music be blasted from all directions - its part of the blocks charm. -
Subject: charm?
Please. You mean the same kind of "charm" that a college dormitory has? -
Subject: noise
No. I mean the same charm as being on a West Indian Island - you know... where many of Lincoln Place's long time residents are from.......I am under the impression that many who contribute this forum won't be happy until the neighborhood has been totally "white-washed" and has had any of its local character extinguished...leading to my original statement that they might be better suited for living in the suburbs as opposed to gentrifying a nieghborhood whose longtime residents are not terribly concerned with poeple playing loud music...... -
I COULDNT agree MORE BRAVO
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No first hand knowledge here, but I somehow doubt that most west indian island communities are comprised of dozens of 50+ unit apartment buildings jammed together into a city block...
No problem with anyone's culture, but we all have to modulate and contextualize our behaviors most of the time when we live in a city...if you want to blast music all night long, why don't you move to the suburbs, where no one will hear you? -
My husband and I live on Underhill Ave. I grew up on Wyckoff between Bond and Nevins and my husband and his family have lived on Underhill Ave. for 30 years. I can tell you that most of the West Indian families that I know in the neighborhood (which is quite a lot since most of the children attend PS 9 where my son has been for 4 years) work extremely hard from early in the morning to late in the evening and do not spend most of their nights with music blasting. I have no problem with loud music or noise (being a Brooklynite with a rather LOUD voice) but I do have a problem when that loud noise or music interfering with working people trying to get some rest so they can get up in the morning to go to their job or when my child cannot fall asleep and is then too tired to get up in the morning for school. There is no need for loud music after a certain time in the evening.
I think throwing in the "race" card into the discussion is totally uncalled for. -
i wouldn't mind the loud music so much if they only had good speakers. that's the funny part, usually the bass is all crackily and it sounds like crap. i suppose they can't hear anything anymore and don't notice. teehee!
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You might not be bothered by loud music if its coming from outside, and you can shut your windows and tune it out, but when its the apartment directly above or next door to you listening to REALLY LOUD music, it sucks, even when its not the middle of the night. it's rude and inconsiderate to your neighbors to play music like that. If you want to be able to listen to music as loud as you want whenever you want, you shouldn't live in a crowded apartment building.
A lot of the longtime residents are annoyed by the loud music, only they can't afford to move anywhere else. You think they're living next to noisy neighbors by choice? Please. I feel sorry for them. -
My next door neighbors (who are from Jamaica or Trinidad, I can't remember which) who are lovely whenever I've chatted with them - had a full-on drum circle in their apartment the other weekend, for several hours. Actually, they sounded quite good. If I was in a less tolerant mood I probably would have gone over and knocked and said "You guys sound great, but... are you going to be doing this for much longer? I'm trying to get some work done."
If noise issues are within your building, I think it's best to address people personally, if possible (at least to start there, 311 may have to come into play later). I had some upstairs neighbors who liked to pump it up on weekends, and I'd go up and ask nicely and sweetly as possible for them to turn it down - they usually would. I also walked down to my downstairs neighbors recently who were blaring their TV one night, and though they wouldn't open the door to speak to me (which made me a little sad), they did turn it down.
I think it comes down to people showing each other respect. It's easy to vilify people when they're at a distance, and you know you won't have to deal with them in person (same goes for responding to people's posts in places like this forum). I'm not articulating this well, but I think if there were more person-to-person contact about issues like this, more understanding/real compromises could be reached.
That being said, I do still keep my fingers poised on the 3-1-1 for those 4am salsa players. -
Arrghh! What a dilemma. While sympathizing with those who lack tolerance for the music being blasted during a local fete, the neighborhood is somewhat losing it's soul. Until recently, the sounds of party and laughter could be heard from multiple dwellings on any given block throughout the weekend. This has diminished to random occasion and I've been shocked to increasingly hear screams of anger to "turn down the music." I'm torn as I understand and respect those who desire a well deserved night's sleep, but at the same time appreciate the vitality of the local Bacchae. It is, in a way, reminiscent of the charm of sound systems piercing the Carribean's tropical night air leading followers to dance in hypnotic trance. I am afraid to say that I'm bearing witness to the nitty gritty Prospect Heights being transformed into it's counterpart neighbor Park Slope (which at one time had it's pockets of rambunctiousness), but accept the fact that change is inevitable. Remember to Love Thy Neighbor.
If the floors thump and the ceilings bump,
suggest carpet and rugs to pad and drone
so the weary can rest
and others can.... keep it Crunck. -
Alot of these parties happen during the week too. Some people have to work early!
why is the nieghborhoods "character" dependent on noise pollution. that's pathetic.
311 callers unite! -
How's this for a headline:
Noise Polluters Romanticized by People with Considerate Neighbors
Pounding bass, audible from Escalade parked three blocks away, called "ambient soul of vibrant living community" -
dailyheights wrote:
Girl on internet spits ginger ale out her nose.
Pounding bass audible from three blocks away called "ambient soul of vibrant living community" -
Subject: Don't Pump Up the Volume
I agree with Stacey this neighborhood is full of hard working people who don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night but inconsiderate assholes. It has nothing to do with culture, it's about respect. -
the only time i needed to ask anyone to turn their music down was at 4am in my apartment building...i shuffled downstairs in my bunny slippers...knocked on the slightly ajar door to what looked like a dorm party at NYU. about 12 stumbling hipsters, were wobbling about, plastic cups everywhere...there was a young, lanky, white boy in the corner of the room glaring at his ipod searching for the next loud dumb white boy song to blast through his new bose speakers he probably got from dad. i trotted right up and told him to turn it down, and have some respect. he turned it down...for about 10 minutes then it was back up. i live 2 floors above and could make out the lyrics. so i called 311, and stuffed a pillow over my head.
that's what i have to say in response to the previous posts...rudeness comes in many shades! -
That's funny "guest". I had the same experience with the white studenty people in my building. Also, there were some white sport fans above me that were crazy loud.
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Gee that's great guys. well recently i was awoke by someone ringing my doorbell at 1230 a.m to complain to me that I was playing my guitar too late at night. Unfortuneatly the music was not coming from my apartment so she had woke me up for no reason. by the way-she is African American guitar player is european and I am Western European American aka "white boy". Racism is bad no matter who perpetuates it. Why did you even mention it in regards to noise/privacy? grow up.
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Subject: 311
I have a question for all you 311 callers: Does it actually work?
I called them once when the horn of a car in front of my building was stuck, blaring for hours. The guy who answered my call was very nice, but it didn't seem like anyone ever came by to check it out (the horn seems to have eventually died on its own). -
When my wife and I lived in Fort Greene we called 311 numerous times and found that the response depended on the complaint. For example, they were great with trash. Whenever we called about garbage piling up, the Dept. of Sanitation always responded by the same day (with clean ups and summonses). When it came to noise, however, they basically ignored us.
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I have it on good authority from multiple 311 operators: if you're calling about noise that's happening right now, you should call 911. I know it sounds crazy, but 311 is really only equipped to deal with ongoing annoyances that happen continuously or regularly (like a loud AC unit). That's because their people work during the day. If you're calling about a car alarm at 3am, the police are the people who deal with it. The first time I called about noise I felt really weird about it, but the 911 operators are capable of prioritizing. The police came and rocked the car and kicked it a bit, and the alarm went off. Hey, whatever works.
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Anonymous wrote: Gee that's great guys. well recently i was awoke by someone ringing my doorbell at 1230 a.m to complain to me that I was playing my guitar too late at night. Unfortuneatly the music was not coming from my apartment so she had woke me up for no reason. by the way-she is African American guitar player is european and I am Western European American aka "white boy". Racism is bad no matter who perpetuates it. Why did you even mention it in regards to noise/privacy? grow up.
if you read the other posts i was making a response with that exact point. -
Y'know, if half of everyone commenting on a given thread is "Guest," it's not just lame (see the top of the page), but also damned confusing. Can't people call themselves Guest1, GuestL, etc. if they don't want to use names?!
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EmilyM wrote: Y'know, if half of everyone commenting on a given thread is "Guest," it's not just lame (see the top of the page), but also damned confusing. Can't people call themselves Guest1, GuestL, etc. if they don't want to use names?!
...or fix the logins so we dont always accidentally post as guest? hehehe. -
I'm changing my name to guest. From now on all guests are me.
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