WTF? no no-fault divorce in NY?
Sentenced till death!http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/03/29/2007-03-29_sentenced_till_death.html
Warring couple wanted split, but jury sez no go
BY NANCIE L. KATZ, JOTHAM SEDERSTROM and BILL HUTCHINSON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Posted Thursday, March 29th 2007, 4:00 AM
Simon Taub beams after jury said his wife, Chana (below), can't divorce him - which may seem a strange reaction, considering the couple's warring ways.
Their love may have died, their house may be divided, but New York's most notorious battling couple is going to have to stay married - by decision of the jury.
In a divorce battle that has gotten more and more bizarre, Chana Taub asked a Brooklyn Supreme Court panel to dissolve her 21-year marriage to Simon Taub. Both listened in stunned silence Tuesday as the jury said they could not separate.
The squabbling spouses each immediately claimed the other was going to resort to murder to do what the court did not - end their wedlock.
"I'm scared. She could be hiring a hit man," said Simon Taub, 58, a millionaire sweater mogul.
"I'm very scared," said Chana Taub, 57. "He's told people he's going to get rid of me."
But in keeping them married, the six-member jury rejected Chana's stated grounds for divorce, that Simon had subjected her to "cruel and inhuman treatment."
The wacky case began two years ago, when Chana said she wanted out of the marriage and Simon refused.
Although most divorce cases are decided by judges, Chana Taub sought a jury trial because she said she thought she would get a fairer hearing.
The real-life "War of the Roses" got so nasty Simon Taub built a wall dividing the Hasidic Jewish couple's Borough Park brownstone to keep them apart.
During the 10-day trial, Chana Taub testified that she needed more than a wall to protect her against his abusive streak. She said he has attacked her with everything from a telephone to a treadmill during their hellish 21-year marriage. Their four children testified against him.
Tuesday's astonishing jury decision came after just five hours of deliberations, leaving the warring couple speechless, albeit temporarily.
Before the verdict sank in, Justice Carolyn Demarest pounded her gavel, saying, "I'm dismissing the whole case. That's it."
"I was in total shock. It's unbelievable," said Chana Taub. "I didn't think I was hearing right."
She said that moments before the panel revealed its decision, her lawyer was so confident she told her to get ready to thank the jury.
Simon Taub said he was convinced the jury would decide against him.
"There is a God. God is great," he said.
"I was willing to do this without the jury, just the judge, but she didn't trust the judge. But now she knows, I was the best husband. Every juror had the right to vote separate and she couldn't convince just one of them."
Simon Taub's lawyer Abe Konstam called the case, "a colossal waste of judicial time."
He said the divorce would have easily been settled if New York allowed married couples to split based on irreconcilable differences, like most states.
But Konstam said Chana Taub helped him "pull a rabbit out of his hat" by "concocting such vicious and outrageous grounds that nobody believed her."
Yesterday, Chana Taub made a new allegation that her husband punched her in the eye when they returned to their divided house after the jury's decision Tuesday evening.
"He was yelling, 'I'm going to break down the wall. I'm going to get rid of her. I'm going to get the whole house,'" said Chana Taub, sporting a bloodshot right eye.
She claimed her husband got rough when she tried to serve him with a new restraining order.
But Simon Taub denied the fresh allegations of abuse, insisting they were a continuation of a smear campaign his wife began during the trial.
"I never hurt a fly in my life," he said. "I never hit her. I never touched her."
He raced to Brooklyn Family Court yesterday to get his own order of protection - while his wife was in the same courthouse trying to get a judge to look at her shiner.
But yesterday, Simon Taub said he was ready to "negotiate" and that the lawyers should work it out.
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yeah, whenever i hear that overturning roe v. wade wouldn't be a big deal because states (at least the only states that the people making that argument ever seem to give a damn about) would pass their own laws allowing abortion, i like to point out that NY of all liberal places still doesn't have no-fault divorce. that shuts 'em up.
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The best thing to do is wait a year and file for abandonment. This can be sexual abandonment. If both parties are in agreement, they can get divorced immediately as long as they will both agree that they haven't had sexual relations for one year.
Yeah, not having a no-fault divorce is weird, but mostly it is done (I have heard) to protect women and children.
Using "cruel and inhuman treatment" is kind of stupid as it has to be proved. -
Don't you just fly to one of those pro-divorce states and file at a drive-thru? Or do you need to break it where you make it?
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doctorj wrote: Don't you just fly to one of those pro-divorce states and file at a drive-thru? Or do you need to break it where you make it?
one party probably has to establish residency at the Vegas divorce chapel . . . or is that 1950s? -
# How do I get a divorce in Las Vegas?
from: http://www.lvlg.com/faqpage.htm
Las Vegas, Nevada is home to thousands of weddings each year, but many years ago we were also renown for the quickie divorce. Laws have changed a bit and you must now be a Clark County resident for at least 6 weeks prior to filing for a divorce. Wait another 6 weeks after filing and the divorce will become final barring any complications. The process is far simpler and cheaper when both spouses agree and there are no children involved. Keep in mind however that Nevada is considered a 'community property' state. This means most prenuptial contracts are void, and spouses are expected to share equally in joint assets. Therefore, half of that lottery you won last week, half of the ancestrial mansion you inherited while married and half that Maserati you splurged on with your recent gambling winnings (as well as half of any debts acquired while married), automatically belongs to your spouse!
An annulment, recently popularized by a certain well-known singing star, on the other hand, dissolves the marriage as though it never occured and requires only that you were married in Nevada or one spouse or the other currently resides here. An annulment takes only about 6 weeks, but requires detailed reasons and qualifications and is NOT guaranteed. In this case time is of the essence and generally the sooner after the marriage it is persued the more likely it is to be granted. Acceptable grounds include underage, intoxication, insanity, blood relatedness and significant material misrepresentation. Neither process ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES the participation of an attorney and in fact kits may be purchased with all the forms and instructions needed to accomplish this, however, especially if you are not intimately familiar with all the ramifications and terms mentioned above, it is STRONGLY recommended that you contact one before persuing either process to discuss your particular situation. The Nevada Bar Association will be happy to refer you to a qualified lawyer.
also, this confirms: http://www.co.clark.nv.us/clerk/Clerk_Divorce_Info.htm -
pitu wrote: [quote=doctorj]Don't you just fly to one of those pro-divorce states and file at a drive-thru? Or do you need to break it where you make it?
one party probably has to establish residency at the Vegas divorce chapel . . . or is that 1950s?
I think you used to be able to get a drive-thru divorce in vegas in the decades past. -
alafairnadia wrote: [quote=pitu][quote=doctorj]Don't you just fly to one of those pro-divorce states and file at a drive-thru? Or do you need to break it where you make it?
one party probably has to establish residency at the Vegas divorce chapel . . . or is that 1950s?
I think you used to be able to get a drive-thru divorce in vegas in the decades past.
I thought Nevada was known for having future-divorcees lounging around waiting for residency. And having affairs . . .
The Vegas Divorcees - now THAT'S a name for a women's basketball team
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[quote=pitu]I thought Nevada was known for having future-divorcees lounging around waiting for residency. And having affairs . . .

Not just that one -- don't forget The Women! -
apollonia666 wrote: [quote=pitu]I thought Nevada was known for having future-divorcees lounging around waiting for residency. And having affairs . . .
ooo MUCH better example!
Not just that one -- don't forget The Women!
(Desert Hearts is an awful film.) -
pitu wrote:
but desert of the heart is a great guilty pleasure read...um, i've heard.
(Desert Hearts is an awful film.)
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