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what s missing in bedstuy and how could we improve it

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  • [email protected] wrote: [quote=madeline]Get rid of all of these store front churches. They do not improve the community,and are not politically aware of the needs of the community most times. We need services that benefit the whole community. Also the over abundance of churches creates further division in the community. Some strips have 4 or 5 churches next to each other.
    Lyn

    First of all Brooklyn it is known for its churches big and small. We are a praying people no matter what. You should have did your homework to undersatnd the history and culture before u moved in. All u newby have great ideas but no action. All u have is an opinion.


    wait, what? history and culture of where and who? I was in Istanbul a few years ago and people were complaining because there were too many mosques and not enough after school programs. the abundance of places of worship that don't care about community isn't just an only-in-Brooklyn issue. and folks thinking that there are too many places of worship is ALSO NOT a solely Brooklyn issue.
  • let it go folks. Hardly a hot button issue. when businesses/institutions are not wanted by people they die out on their own. And by the way, the generalizations about churches not helping is misguided. Many of these churches do food and clothing drives during the year, as well as after school programs and summer programs. They need more support from the businesses that we all praise and support, plus the politicians.
  • solamami wrote: BTW, I did stop by Brooks Valley tonight--and not at guest guru's snide behest (I'm just now reading this post)--simply on my own volition, because: 1) I support local business; 2) the food is good; 3) the owners and staff are sweet, and 4) since I'm becoming a semi-regular there, I wanted to personally wish them a happy 1st anniversary, meet more of my neighbors... and snag a piece of German chocolate cake. Mmmm!

    Isn't this the jist of community building? Guvna summed up my newbie intentions best:
    At the heart, most people only want good things for BS, even if they are not from there.
    Gracias, guvna. (though isn't it spelled governor? :wink: )
    Glad you made it, but I did notice quite a few folks walking by timidly and looking in,which is fine. I was standing on the sidewalk and I am black so that can be intimidating for some, but I am glad you are a regular. FYI that cake is vegan! :-) :)
  • Solamami, I think you were talking to me outside with your beautiful daughter?
  • Subject: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    I am responding to several of the ignorant comments that were left about what Bedstuy needs. First of all let me clarify something. I am not totally against gentrification, however when the concrete purpose of it is to totally change a neighborhood from the appearance to the residents that reside there, there's a problem. Brooklyn is totally going under a huge "reconstruction". I've been here for 5yrs now (Clinton Hill and Bedstuy) and I came in at a time when things were totally cool. Rents were still affordable and new businesses were opening. Artists live in Brooklyn so ofcourse there's a cool vibe that follows. Anyway, I am in total agreement that further up in Bedstuy (where I reside) there is a need for certain new businesses to come in and help develop the community. Sure we need more healthy and diverse restaurants, more clothing boutiques, and even more lounges, bars, and art galleries. Especially on Fulton Street which is the main strip that connects Ft. Greene, Clinton Hill, and Bedstuy. However to the idiot that said we needed a Starbucks like who are you and please take your corny ass back to where you came from. How dare you make stupid comments like that. Having a Starbucks makes a neighborhood feel safe? Listen if you don't feel safe why did you come here? You can't expect to move into any neighborhood in New York and impose what you think would make the neighborhood better without knowing the history of the neighborhood and what the residents that live there now need in their community (health services, educational institutions, and outreach programs for youth etc.) So what there's a church on every block. That's what makes Brooklyn, BROOKLYN. The liquor stores can be done away with but we didn't ask for them in the first place. They came specifically to our neighborhoods to aid and assist us in killing ourselves. We didn't ask for the devil to bring us his poison. But not everyone is strong enough not to fall into these wicked traps. Anyway, Brooklyn is a place that thrives with creativity and artistic vibes. There's no way in hell, the face of any neighborhood in this borough is gonna totally change to look like the freakin West Village. Even Park Slope still has a cool laid back Brooklyn vibe inspite of it's tree lined aesthetic and "candycane storefronts". The people that live in Brooklyn is what makes Brooklyn so freakin hot. The culture and diverseness of the people that have migrated from all over is what gives it it's flava. From the hipsters and emos in Williamsburg to the natty dreads and fly gals in Ft. Greene, that's what makes it hot and desirable. Artists have injected a vibe into the veins of this land but there's a way to go about doing things. You can't just come in and "rape" someone's land from them (sound familiar) and force them out just because you want it and you can't afford to live in a certain part of the city now. Why is Brooklyn so desirable all of a sudden? Brooklyn's been hot way before now but no one wanted to be responsible for their community and certain parts were allowed to go to hell. WAKE UP, 'TIS A NEW DAY. You have people like myself who are artists and entrepreneurs who aren't just gonna roll out cause the rents too high. It's all about owning property and putting your dollars back into your community so certain individuals can't come in and say, "Ahhh dah ha hey, Bob know what would be cool? If there was a Starbucks right here on the corner of Fulton and Nostrand!" Yeah sure we need a cafe but how about "JAVA NOIR". A cool swanky joint that serves quality fresh products with a mom and pop feel yet still affordable. Bottom line, you have to educate the residents that have lived here for almost their whole lives and let them know what's going on now. I live on a beautiful block where people own their homes and take care of their property. Don't try and manipulate and swindle them to move now because things are changing in the economy. Bottom line what Bedstuy needs, PROGRESSIVE and CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS who want to live and rebuild a community with the residents that already live here. People that actually care about the neighborhood not just because Time Out gave it some dumb name and christened it cool.

    Eat that!
  • LOL! Why is everyone so freaking obsessed with Starbucks??? People who want Starbucks seem to think they are a beacon signifying irreversible gentrification. People against it act like Starbucks is Cafe Satan! WTF is going on here?

    What would happen if a local resident of 20 years decided to open a Starbucks in the hood? Would all sides unite and support his business???? Too shocking to consider . . . .
  • Subject: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    Not shocking to consider however, let's be real. A resident that has lived here for 20 yrs. has a little bit more vision than that. They wouldn't dare open up a Starbucks they would open up a JAVA NOIR. LOL. For real this is not about Starbucks (trust me I patronize them in the city when that's all that's around and I'm craving a frap). This is about keeping Bedstuy from turning into Ratner's backyard and not pushing people out that have lived here for years and have pride in their community.
  • Subject: Re: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    Ms. Johnnie wrote: This is about keeping Bedstuy from turning into Ratner's backyard and not pushing people out that have lived here for years and have pride in their community.
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  • Subject: What Bed-Stuy Needs is You

    Bed Stuy needs more support from its residents. We have way too many people sleeping here, storing their furniture here and living all over the rest of the city. If your block association hasn't said "let's take a group trip down to a good local business and each spend $$$ your association is with itself and not the greater community. If you are educating your children elsewhere without looking at the conditions in our local schools please leave. If you have individually been walking by new businesses for months and even years without patronizing please hurry up and leave. Finish your packing tonight because we just don't need you.
  • Subject: Re: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    Ms. Johnnie wrote: Not shocking to consider however, let's be real. A resident that has lived here for 20 yrs. has a little bit more vision than that. They wouldn't dare open up a Starbucks they would open up a JAVA NOIR. LOL. For real this is not about Starbucks (trust me I patronize them in the city when that's all that's around and I'm craving a frap). This is about keeping Bedstuy from turning into Ratner's backyard and not pushing people out that have lived here for years and have pride in their community.
    If the guy wanted to open a starbucks/connecticut muffin/etc because they provide (for instance) great franchisee support, easier acces to financing, whatever, he might choose to open one. I wouldnt be mad at him if he did. I think we need to get away from the meaningless demonization of establishments that have little to do with hurting or helping communities inof themselves.

    Also, if you want to avoid people being pushed out, the only ones that can stop that are the landlords. They set the rental rates. Everything else is a matter of supply and demand. If Joe's hardware can no longer afford his rent, he will succumb and be replaced by another business that can afford the rent. Community groups and politicians are position well to put pressure on landlords to keep rents affordable, but incentives have to be provided.
  • Subject: Re: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    Guvna wrote: [quote=Ms. Johnnie]Not shocking to consider however, let's be real. A resident that has lived here for 20 yrs. has a little bit more vision than that. They wouldn't dare open up a Starbucks they would open up a JAVA NOIR. LOL. For real this is not about Starbucks (trust me I patronize them in the city when that's all that's around and I'm craving a frap). This is about keeping Bedstuy from turning into Ratner's backyard and not pushing people out that have lived here for years and have pride in their community.
    If the guy wanted to open a starbucks/connecticut muffin/etc because they provide (for instance) great franchisee support, easier acces to financing, whatever, he might choose to open one. I wouldnt be mad at him if he did. I think we need to get away from the meaningless demonization of establishments that have little to do with hurting or helping communities inof themselves.

    True, but franchises can also push out mom-and-pop places.

    Actually, I rarely stop in a Starbucks either, but not out of any OMGFRANCHISE kind of reaction, but because their coffee tastes burnt. :?
  • Subject: Re: WHAT BEDSTUY NEEDS.....

    queencallipygos wrote: [quote=Guvna][quote=Ms. Johnnie]Not shocking to consider however, let's be real. A resident that has lived here for 20 yrs. has a little bit more vision than that. They wouldn't dare open up a Starbucks they would open up a JAVA NOIR. LOL. For real this is not about Starbucks (trust me I patronize them in the city when that's all that's around and I'm craving a frap). This is about keeping Bedstuy from turning into Ratner's backyard and not pushing people out that have lived here for years and have pride in their community.
    If the guy wanted to open a starbucks/connecticut muffin/etc because they provide (for instance) great franchisee support, easier acces to financing, whatever, he might choose to open one. I wouldnt be mad at him if he did. I think we need to get away from the meaningless demonization of establishments that have little to do with hurting or helping communities inof themselves.
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    True, but franchises can also push out mom-and-pop places.

    Actually, I rarely stop in a Starbucks either, but not out of any OMGFRANCHISE kind of reaction, but because their coffee tastes burnt. :?


    But thats really down to them being able to afford higher rents. So, I still think the landlords hold the destinies of the small independent businesses.

    I cant stand Starbucks coffee either. :D
  • Guru, I wish I could PM you, but I can't, so here goes...

    Yep, that was me! And yes, my daughter IS beautiful, thank you. Now you can see why I'm a Mother Lioness to her cub. But honestly and truly, nice to put a face to the name... and nice to make nice...

    And that cake is vegan??? Holy crap, it's good--so good in fact, my daughter would barely let me have a bite. I had to sneak it when she wasn't looking. When she had her fill, she pointed to the leftovers and and said, "Cake. Tomorrow." As if to say, don't you even THINK about polishing that off, mami! :lol:
  • solamami wrote: Guru, I wish I could PM you, but I can't, so here goes...

    Yep, that was me! And yes, my daughter IS beautiful, thank you. Now you can see why I'm a Mother Lioness to her cub. But honestly and truly, nice to put a face to the name... and nice to make nice...

    And that cake is vegan??? Holy crap, it's good--so good in fact, my daughter would barely let me have a bite. I had to sneak it when she wasn't looking. When she had her fill, she pointed to the leftovers and and said, "Cake. Tomorrow." As if to say, don't you even THINK about polishing that off, mami! :lol:
    My mother and daughter live around the corner from you and I lived there in the eighties, and now live on Halsey. FYI the restaurant is going to have vegan pancakes for brunch this weekend with organic fruits. I am a real estate agent and I like food.
  • Subject: Re: What Bed-Stuy Needs is You

    Crystal wrote: Bed Stuy needs more support from its residents. We have way too many people sleeping here, storing their furniture here and living all over the rest of the city. If your block association hasn't said "let's take a group trip down to a good local business and each spend $$$ your association is with itself and not the greater community. If you are educating your children elsewhere without looking at the conditions in our local schools please leave. If you have individually been walking by new businesses for months and even years without patronizing please hurry up and leave. Finish your packing tonight because we just don't need you.
    Two thumbs up Crystal, and the part about "sleeping here" etc., talk about nailing it! Anyone upset or in disagreement with this statement imo should also start packing. Vote with your $$$'s to improve the community, and you should be selective. This goes out to oldtimers and newcomers start living in your community or start packing and go sleep in the community where you are living! Thanks Crystal, and like the Virgin ad says "You Rock". 8)
  • Visit the Tiny Cup Cafe on Nostrand and Clifton and tell Lisa the owner hello, she is great and this is a great place.
  • I spoke to one of the owners at Bombay on Franklin about opening a place in Bed Stuy, because we are missing a good Indian restaurant. He seemed open to the idea, but since they are only three weeks old it is to early for them to consider that move.
  • Subject: Re: What Bed-Stuy Needs is You

    guru wrote: [quote=Crystal]Bed Stuy needs more support from its residents. We have way too many people sleeping here, storing their furniture here and living all over the rest of the city. If your block association hasn't said "let's take a group trip down to a good local business and each spend $$$ your association is with itself and not the greater community. If you are educating your children elsewhere without looking at the conditions in our local schools please leave. If you have individually been walking by new businesses for months and even years without patronizing please hurry up and leave. Finish your packing tonight because we just don't need you.
    Two thumbs up Crystal, and the part about "sleeping here" etc., talk about nailing it! Anyone upset or in disagreement with this statement imo should also start packing. Vote with your $$$'s to improve the community, and you should be selective. This goes out to oldtimers and newcomers start living in your community or start packing and go sleep in the community where you are living! Thanks Crystal, and like the Virgin ad says "You Rock". 8)


    So wait-
    I'm only allowed to live here if I spend every free moment in the neighborhood? I have friends that live all over brooklyn and manhattan and NONE of them spend more than 3 waking hours a day at home- NYC and the boroughs have a lifestyle of living out of the home, especially when you commute 45+ minutes every day to work. When I get into the city, I stay there and run all my errands at one stint, thus coming home late.
    When bedstuy has a drugstore tht carries a decent array of anything but condoms is the day that I start sticking around to run my errands.
  • Carmen, I think Crystal would be correct in telling you to hit the bricks!
  • ^alright well, if I didn't work 65+ hours a week to support my apartment (which, I'd like to note, I'm apparently "driving up the price of" by simply being white) maybe I'd spend more time at home. Tell my boss to give me a weekend off and I'll start hanging out in the hood. Or I guess I should blame my whitey self for making it so expensive to live in bedstuy in the first place?


    Saying that people who commute to live are ruining the neighborhood is beyond insulting
  • Carmen wrote: ^alright well, if I didn't work 65+ hours a week to support my apartment (which, I'd like to note, I'm apparently "driving up the price of" by simply being white) maybe I'd spend more time at home. Tell my boss to give me a weekend off and I'll start hanging out in the hood. Or I guess I should blame my whitey self for making it so expensive to live in bedstuy in the first place?


    Saying that people who commute to live are ruining the neighborhood is beyond insulting
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  • guru wrote: Carmen, I think Crystal would be correct in telling you to hit the bricks!
    Ouch! So, who will hire her in the hood at a rate that will ensure that she can afford her rent? In addition, it is her and employed people like her that are improving the hood's tax base. This in turn will lead to improved services. Gentrification is not all bad, regardless of whether the person spends most of the time out of the hood.

    Anyhow, here are some alternative views on gentrification to stimulate debate instead of the usual scapegoating found in here:
    Flag Wars tells the story of what happened to the Olde Towne East community in Columbus, Ohio when the neighborhood went through the process of gentrification in the mid-to-late 1990s. For much of the twentieth century, urbanists, policymakers, and activists were preoccupied with inner city decline across the United States, as people with money and options fled cities for the suburbs. But widespread reports of the American city's demise proved premature. Beginning in the 1970s, urban life slowly began to regain prestige, particularly among artists and the highly educated. By the turn of this century, many cities were thriving again, and their desirability among the wealthy and upwardly mobile was putting intense pressure on rents, real estate prices, and low-income communities.

    What is Gentrification?

    Gentrification is a general term for the arrival of wealthier people in an existing urban district, a related increase in rents and property values, and changes in the district's character and culture. The term is often used negatively, suggesting the displacement of poor communities by rich outsiders. But the effects of gentrification are complex and contradictory, and its real impact varies.

    Many aspects of the gentrification process are desirable. Who wouldn't want to see reduced crime, new investment in buildings and infrastructure, and increased economic activity in their neighborhoods? Unfortunately, the benefits of these changes are often enjoyed disproportionately by the new arrivals, while the established residents find themselves economically and socially marginalized.

    Gentrification has been the cause of painful conflict in many American cities, often along racial and economic fault lines. Neighborhood change is often viewed as a miscarriage of social justice, in which wealthy, usually white, newcomers are congratulated for "improving" a neighborhood whose poor, minority residents are displaced by skyrocketing rents and economic change.

    Although there is not a clear-cut technical definition of gentrification, it is characterized by several changes.

    Demographics: An increase in median income, a decline in the proportion of racial minorities, and a reduction in household size, as low-income families are replaced by young singles and couples.

    Real Estate Markets: Large increases in rents and home prices, increases in the number of evictions, conversion of rental units to ownership (condos) and new development of luxury housing.

    Land Use: A decline in industrial uses, an increase in office or multimedia uses, the development of live-work "lofts" and high-end housing, retail, and restaurants.

    Culture and Character: New ideas about what is desirable and attractive, including standards (either informal or legal) for architecture, landscaping, public behavior, noise, and nuisance.

    How does it happen?

    America's renewed interest in city life has put a premium on urban neighborhoods, few of which have been built since World War II. If people are flocking to new jobs in a region where housing is scarce, pressure builds on areas once considered undesirable.

    Gentrification tends to occur in districts with particular qualities that make them desirable and ripe for change. The convenience, diversity, and vitality of urban neighborhoods are major draws, as is the availability of cheap housing, especially if the buildings are distinctive and appealing. Old houses or industrial buildings often attract people looking for "fixer-uppers" as investment opportunities.

    Gentrification works by accretion — gathering momentum like a snowball. Few people are willing to move into an unfamiliar neighborhood across class and racial lines¹. Once a few familiar faces are present, more people are willing to make the move. Word travels that an attractive neighborhood has been "discovered" and the pace of change accelerates rapidly.

    Consequences of Gentrification

    In certain respects, a neighborhood that is gentrified can become a "victim of its own success." The upward spiral of desirability and increasing rents and property values often erodes the very qualities that began attracting new people in the first place. When success comes to a neighborhood, it does not always come to its established residents, and the displacement of that community is gentrification's most troubling effect.

    No one is more vulnerable to the effects of gentrification than renters. When prices go up, tenants are pushed out, whether through natural turnover, rent hikes, or evictions. When buildings are sold, buyers often evict the existing tenants to move in themselves, combine several units, or bring in new tenants at a higher rate. When residents own their homes, they are less vulnerable, and may opt to "cash them in" and move elsewhere. Their options may be limited if there is a regional housing shortage, however, and cash does not always compensate for less tangible losses.

    The economic effects of gentrification vary widely, but the arrival of new investment, new spending power, and a new tax base usually result in significant increased economic activity. Rehabilitation, housing development, new shops and restaurants, and new, higher-wage jobs are often part of the picture. Previous residents may benefit from some of this development, particularly in the form of service sector and construction jobs, but much of it may be out of reach to all but the well-educated newcomers. Some local economic activity may also be forced out — either by rising rents or shifting sensibilities. Industrial activities that employ local workers may be viewed as a nuisance or environmental hazard by new arrivals. Local shops may lose their leases under pressure from posh boutiques and restaurants.

    Physical changes also accompany gentrification. Older buildings are rehabilitated and new construction occurs. Public improvements — to streets, parks, and infrastructure — may accompany government revitalization efforts or occur as new residents organize to demand public services. New arrivals often push hard to improve the district aesthetically, and may codify new standards through design guidelines, historic preservation legislation, and the use of blight and nuisance laws.

    The social, economic, and physical impacts of gentrification often result in serious political conflict, exacerbated by differences in race, class, and culture. Earlier residents may feel embattled, ignored, and excluded from their own communities. New arrivals are often mystified by accusations that their efforts to improve local conditions are perceived as hostile or even racist.

    Change — in fortunes, in populations, in the physical fabric of communities — is an abiding feature of urban life. But change nearly always involves winners and losers, and low-income people are rarely the winners. The effects of gentrification vary widely with the particular local circumstances. Residents, community development corporations, and city governments across the country are struggling to manage these inevitable changes to create a win-win situation for everyone involved.

    Benjamin Grant is an urban designer, city planner and writer in the San Francisco Bay Area.
    Winners and losers seems to be his central message. Existing owners benefit from gentrification while existing renters who cannot afford the new rents are the losers. Nothing new there. Isnt that why rent control laws were originally instituted?

    Here's another:
    The Evils of Gentrification Exposed

    So the cat is out of the bag; gentrification, a curse word in many circles, does not displace current residents with higher rents and taxes. Two studies released in the last five years show that residents in non-gentrifying neighborhoods are more likely to move, or be ‘displaced,’ than those in gentrifying neighborhoods; these studies were conducted by economists from Duke University (Vigdor) and Columbia University (Freeman).

    The negativity related to middle class families moving back to the city has always confounded me. In the 1960s and 1970s citizens, politicians, and community leaders complained that the middle class was abandoning the city and moving to the suburbs. Then in the 1980s when this same group of people started to move back into the cities, the same group of people started to complain. Seem ridiculous? I thought so too.

    In blighted neighborhoods there are often many vacant buildings and lots. These areas are the main focus of gentrification efforts, the unused portions of neighborhoods. While certainly some people do move out, they are usually rewarded with a significantly higher compensation for their house than they would have received previously. Also as gentrification occurs the tax base of an area rises and the quality of its public services as well.

    Safer, better lit streets provide incentives for many current residents to stay, and they do. Vigdor found that poor and less educated residents of gentrifying neighborhoods in New York City were 20% less likely to move than their counterparts in similarly blighted neighborhoods. Also landlords have an incentive to improve their own property as those around them do so.

    Many concerned with gentrification assume that all of those who move from an area do so because of the effects of gentrification. This is a false belief; it is a fact that poor neighborhoods have high turnover rates. The only difference in a gentrifying neighborhood is that someone from the middle class often fills the vacancy instead of it remaining vacant or being occupied by another poor resident; this gives some the impression that those residents were ‘forced out’ by the middle class. Obviously the less fortunate have no control over their actions and only respond to the actions of the upper and middle class, or at least so the thinking goes for those that believe all poor residents that move out of a gentrifying area do so because of the changes that occur.

    Gentrification seems to solve many problems that scholars and city leaders alike complain about. It reduces racial and economic segregation which has greatly increased since World War II. It expands the tax base of cities, which has been shrinking since 1945 as well. Middle and upper class residents contribute more to the tax base and are less likely to use some government services like education and social services than lower class residents. All of this should seem like a win-win situation for urban politicians and residents – higher tax base, rising population, better services, and better housing; only time will tell if people want to reading the writing on the wall and embrace gentrification. Either way those who oppose gentrification watch out because this trend shows no signs of slowing down and its effects are coming to a neighborhood near you.
    form a blog I googled.

    The next one gives some interesting history on the word gentrification itself. I am inclined to agree with the conclusion too. In our case, local politicians and non-profits must keep fighting to ensure that affordable housing components are included in new developments. This does not stop gentrification, but actaully helps preserve some of the nabe's diversity that attracted most of the gentrifyers in the first place. With improved services and amenities, all should benefit.
    Robert Fulford's column about "gentrification"
    (The National Post, January 10, 2004)
    In urban politics, "gentrification" has for many years been a curse, a one-word bundle of anger and resentment. In 1999 a candidate for mayor of San Francisco solemnly pledged that if elected he would make "war on any and all gentrification." In 2000 a Toronto weekly paper, eye, discussed "Toronto's silent war over gentrification."

    Those wars were of course purely metaphorical. On Monday in Montreal, members of an organization called the Anti-Gentrification Committee, springing from God knows what political swamp, made the metaphor dangerously literal by committing war-like acts. They terrified residents of the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district by leaving six suspicious-looking packages at condominium construction sites and sales offices. The police bomb squad found the packages harmless, but a communique from the Anti-Gentrification Committee threatened more vicious action in future.

    Whoever they are, the Montreal radicals express an extreme version of a widely held opinion. Urban activists and scholars on several continents have convinced themselves that there's something fundamentally wrong and selfish about improving a neighbourhood. That seems to me precisely the reverse of the truth. In fact, the gentrification movement has helped solve, through the spontaneous decisions of millions of citizens, what once seemed a grave and intractable problem.

    Forty years ago, the same sort of people who are now averse to gentrification were worrying that "white flight" was destroying the inner cities. Across the U.S., white middle-class families were moving to the suburbs because downtown neighbourhoods were increasingly populated by blacks. By leaving, the middle classes shrank the tax base of the cities, eroding schools and other services. Everyone claimed that downtowns were dying, even where race was not a major factor.

    But the 1960s and 1970s brought a big change for the better -- or so it seemed. Middle-class families began taking over cheap, decrepit housing and improving it. Districts that were called "slums" only a few years earlier sprang back to life. In the early stages this was called "neighbourhood revitalization."

    In 1964, however, it acquired a new and sinister name and ceased to be an obviously benign process. Ruth Glass, a British sociologist, invented the word "gentrification" as a reaction against the transformation of London neighbourhoods. She decided that the new movement was eliminating cheap rental housing and driving out the poor.

    Glass took the extremely conservative view that districts should remain the way they were when she first glimpsed them. She didn't know or care that at some level all neighbourhoods are in transition all the time. She believed that time should be stopped in its path.

    As a package for her misgivings, "gentrification" was a clever choice. It had a sophisticated sound, as well as ironic echoes of the rural gentry depicted in the novels of Jane Austen. It carried overtones of snobbery and class superiority -- even if many gentrifiers had been among the urban poor only a generation or a decade earlier. Glass also imported into town planning another word, "invaded," which is what the middle classes supposedly did to the districts of the poor. She used another term, still uglier: "colonising."

    By 1973 Glass was treating the improvement of every London slum as a tragedy: "There is very little left of the poorer enclaves of Hampstead and Chelsea: In these boroughs, the upper-middle-class takeover was consolidated some time ago. The invasion has since spread to Islington, Paddington, North Kensington."

    As a term of abuse, "gentrification" proved such a huge success that it went into some dictionaries with Glass's own social interpretation attached; Merriam-Webster says it's "the process of renewal and rebuilding accompanying the influx of middle-class or affluent people into deteriorating areas that often displaces earlier, usually poorer residents." Recently in The New York Times, A.O. Scott depicted gentrification (he was discussing a former slum in Brooklyn) as a transformation that's "full of aspiration and oppression, progress and callousness."

    Seldom has a single word done so much to distort perception. In a sense it resembles "elitist." Both words demonize creative impulses that are common to much of humanity by depicting ambition and the search for personal betterment as a form of evil.

    Much of the world now agrees with Glass that gentrification cheats the poor, though the evidence has never been strong. Recent economic studies in Boston and New York have suggested that the opposite is the case. They claim that gentrification can benefit the poor by increasing the tax base, bringing middle-class energy to the job of improving the schools, and introducing economic variety. Many older residents, they discovered, are not pushed out. What disappears instead is the "monoculture of poverty." It's replaced by the kind of economic mix that's essential to social health. Reuben Greenberg, the police chief of Charleston, S.C., claims that "Urban problems are caused not by poverty, but by the concentration of poverty."

    No one will claim, though, that benefits can be shown in each case of gentrification. Every renovated district has its own qualities and its own economic results. But certainly no serious research supports the belief that gentrification consistently hurts the poor. This widespread foolishness demonstrates how thinking can be imprisoned by language, even by just one well-chosen word.
  • Guvna wrote: This in turn will lead to improved services.
    Like Starbucks? Amerikkkan Aparrel? Brooklyn Industries? The Gap?
    No thanks. I would rather have the jelly coconut/sugar cane guys back.
    It used to be great when we didn't have to see any white people too.
    Its good we can get food deliveries now, but it just shows the blatant racism that is all around us. Why did they need white people to be able to deliver? Why are most of the restaurants French? WTF is an Austrian restaurant doing in Fort Greene? Why do these new white people act so snobby and look down on us and try to boss us around? Why do they feel its ok to blast opera music on a saturday afternoon but call the cops on the old timers playing their soul music?
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  • annoyed wrote: [quote=Guvna] This in turn will lead to improved services.
    Like Starbucks? Amerikkkan Aparrel? Brooklyn Industries? The Gap?
    No thanks. I would rather have the jelly coconut/sugar cane guys back.
    It used to be great when we didn't have to see any white people too.
    Its good we can get food deliveries now, but it just shows the blatant racism that is all around us. Why did they need white people to be able to deliver? Why are most of the restaurants French? WTF is an Austrian restaurant doing in Fort Greene? Why do these new white people act so snobby and look down on us and try to boss us around? Why do they feel its ok to blast opera music on a saturday afternoon but call the cops on the old timers playing their soul music?
    If you dont like Starbucks et al dont go there. If enough people agree with you, those places will close.

    I dont mind seeing white people, red, yellow, black, whatever. I just wish all people would smile more.

    Why are all the restaurants French? Lou Lou's is nice, Oscar okay, Lolas is nice. Did I miss any? Thai, Cuban, Senegalese, Jamaican, American, Mexican are some of the other foods I've found in the area. I like the culinary diversity. Cant eat burgers and fries, or chinese food all the time. It'll kill ya.

    If anyone has been looking down on me I mustve missed it. Mostly people look past me if they can, trying to avoid eye contact. I wish that would stop too. Initiating "hello" usually works for me, when I remember.

    Haha! Blasting Opera? That sucks. The guy in front of my building blasting old skool R&B from his SUV is annoying, but nobody calls the cops on him. I think we all laugh at him trying to work his mojo in his advanced years.
  • Guvna wrote:
    Why are all the restaurants French? Lou Lou's is nice, Oscar okay, Lolas is nice. Did I miss any? Thai, Cuban, Senegalese, Jamaican, American, Mexican are some of the other foods I've found in the area. I like the culinary diversity. Cant eat burgers and fries, or chinese food all the time. It'll kill ya.
    Cafe Lafayette is French. The French store on Vanderbilt. Ici. A cafe I think it is called is Senegalese but really more French but I am glad it is Senegalese owned. The other one on fulton vellis i think it is. French pastry shop on fulton too. New french pastry shop on dekalb. Its ALOT OF FRENCH in a small area. TOO MUCH. I don't even like French food it will kill you too with all that cream and butter and eggs they use. I also don't eat burgers nor fries. This used to be a very Afrocentric area. The Euro stuff is squashing it out and I hate it. I gotta take the train to Nostrand ave just to get a damn hot pepper or a piece of pumpkin. THATS WRONG!
  • IGNORANCE IS BLISS. It's just really sad to see some of the comments posted lately but it is what it is. Racisim is something that is deeply embedded in our history across the world and sad to say it will continue to affect our children and children's children etc.... However, can't we just all get along at the end of the day? So what fresh direct didn't deliver b4 whites came to the neighborhood. If you feel that way just don't support them. Period. The way to hurt any business today is simply just pull your dollars out. No ones blaming whites for increased rents, sorry hon but it's a lil deeper than that. Read all of the above info about gentrification. I feel that throwing insults and placing blame will not get us anywhere. It's time to be proactive about this. Which is why I won't spend too much time on here complaining and suggesting. Organizing community forums which discuss problems and the issues at hand could benefit us as a whole. Write your city council members and senate leaders and address these issues as well. Everyone in Bedstuy should've known this was bound to happen once Clinton Hill and Ft. Greene became hot hoods for the hipsters. Now my friends it is what it is. The best thing we can do right now is do your homework and research programs for funding and buy property in your neighborhood if you want to stay here and not have to pay high ass rental prices. Continue to support the local businesses and organize block associations where needed. Remember, people can't do to you won't you don't allow! No one smiles at me really when I strut down my block but, I just give them smiles and throw them my regular diva glances when applicable!
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  • vellis is now epoca and serves italian food.indian on franklin ,mexican to be on franklyn,brooksvalley jamaican.olea mediteranean........and all of them have good food
  • MY HEART BELONGS TO BK wrote: No ones blaming whites for increased rents
    EVERYONE is blaming whites for increased rents. It is no deeper than that. This is what they have been doing throughout their entire history. If they can't buy it they will steal it. They must take it over and push everyone else out and they don't care by which means they do it. Price people out, make war, commit genocide, blow up a levee, whatever gets them their desired result. The cops work for them too. Fort Greene Park is DISGUSTING now there is a white side of the park and a black side. A white playground and a black one. When they see black kids coming on what they feel to be "their side of the park" they call the cops for no reason whatsoever. Then they wonder why people hate them.
  • annoyed wrote: [quote=Guvna]
    Why are all the restaurants French? Lou Lou's is nice, Oscar okay, Lolas is nice. Did I miss any? Thai, Cuban, Senegalese, Jamaican, American, Mexican are some of the other foods I've found in the area. I like the culinary diversity. Cant eat burgers and fries, or chinese food all the time. It'll kill ya.
    Cafe Lafayette is French. The French store on Vanderbilt. Ici. A cafe I think it is called is Senegalese but really more French but I am glad it is Senegalese owned. The other one on fulton vellis i think it is. French pastry shop on fulton too. New french pastry shop on dekalb. Its ALOT OF FRENCH in a small area. TOO MUCH. I don't even like French food it will kill you too with all that cream and butter and eggs they use. I also don't eat burgers nor fries. This used to be a very Afrocentric area. The Euro stuff is squashing it out and I hate it. I gotta take the train to Nostrand ave just to get a damn hot pepper or a piece of pumpkin. THATS WRONG! My friend, I dont know what to tell you. Either you will change with the times, go crazy, or leave. Nothing was always the way it is. Things change. Pretty much all of those businesses that you mentioned are fairly busy, which means they are in demand.

    Everything in moderation too. I dont eat out that often, so the french food with its butter and cream wont be killing me! :D BTW, save your train fare, go to Buff Patty for some hot pepper. Authentic Jamiacan grub there.
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