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New BLDG 4th Ave 12th/13th — Brooklynian

New BLDG 4th Ave 12th/13th

teafolks
teafolks
edited November -1 in Park Slope
Hey guys,

anyone have info on this building (height, etc.)? I remember reading something about it online but can't find it now.

Thanks!

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  • debya
    debya
    Looks like it's another Scarano building: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?boro=3&houseno=504&street=4th+avenue&requestid=0&s=A03C41B885B461E4F46BD08866A7430E
  • teafolks
    teafolks
    has anyone been able to find a schematic or the # of floors? think it's 12.
  • veets
    veets
    I haven't seen the schematic but on and off subject ....I drove from 4th ave and 36 (off the highway) to 9th street and I hadn't done that in a long time. I saw the future. I saw those architecteral renditions of 4th ave in 5 or 10 years. Those high rises.. the total change in the feeling of the ave.. basically to a corridore of high rises with major retail chains occupying the botom of all those buildings. I was horrified and intrigued. If I wanted to go to Old Navy or the Gap or the Childrens Place (to buy duds for the grandkids ) I would be walking around the corner.. What a boone to my existence and then all at once what a horror. I saw myself walking with one of those walker ( I see those 75-80 year olds do that all the time on their way to c town) to one of those main chain stores I don't buy from now. Give me fidgites on 7th ave or the defunct Go Fish on 5th Ave and I suddenly realized what I realized what I really want for my own personal future.... I want to be that 80 year old woman.. sitting right here ordering whatever on the internet.. but when I todall through the neighborhood with cane, walker, with aid or whatever... I would want to see what is now..... the charm that is PS and none of what the future seems to want to bring us.
  • charlesbklyn
    charlesbklyn

    Subject: Height of 4th Ave buildings

    The zoning is R8A, which means 120 ft

    Figure 15ft per floor, which makes this building about 8-10 stories tall. Same as the whole corridor down forth avenue.

    I also feel for the building owners up the street from this building, as their spectacular views will be diminished. Nice to have your property value drop to increase the wealth of a developer. Of course, todays economics are only about what the middle class gives up.

    I also believe this is the same building that was denied or revoked a permit to build because they trying unsuccessfully to get around zoning laws. I assumed they would reapply for a properly zoned building.

    I like this violation:

    CALLER STATES WORK IS BEING DONE AT STATED LOCATION AND IS CAUSING HOMES TO SHAKE ON THE ENTIRE BLOCK

    Category Code: 14 EXCAVATION - UNDERMINING ADJACENT BUILDING

    they apparently resolved this issue.


    Charlesbklyn
  • teafolks
    teafolks
    yeah, am up the hill a bit and worried a little about the view specifically. hard to imagine what the neighborhood will be like in 7 years--how the changes on fourth will affect all those old-timey businesses on fifth, like garry's (sp?) jewelers and the 24-hour pharmacy bet 9th and 10th.

    but as the great eddie palmieri said, todo tiene su final, I guess.
  • diane
    diane
    Neergard pharmacy - an institution. There will always be kids with
    ear infections and will need to go to neergards at 1AM.
  • beninbrooklyn
    beninbrooklyn
    I have mixed feelings about the rezoning of 4th Avenue and the high rise explosion. But my general feeling is that NY needs housing to accomodate the growing population, and high density housing is really the only way to accomodate that. There is good public transit along the 4th Ave. corridor, and folks, 4th Avenue is already an unpleasant place - there not much else that can make it more unpleasant. I do worry about the extra car traffic and parking woes that will migrate up the Slope (i'm on 12th St. bet. 5th & 6th).
    I do think there should be caveats built in:
    - allocations of affordable housing
    - discourage car ownership by tenants
    - green building standards
    - improving public transit even more
    - encouraging independent biz to open in the area.

    But do we really have a choice?
  • charlesbklyn
    charlesbklyn

    Subject: 4th Ave

    I agree with the sentiment that we need more housing, as Brooklyn will grow as America grows in population. Having said that, Brooklyn is not the only place to dump big developments, and as Park Slope has grown from the inside out, until very recently, the city should be thinking alittle about the many thousands of people already established, with much to lose. It must be a balanced approach.

    The city should, at the very least, space the large buildings apart. So far, it has been so ... But a "park avenue" would certainly put a shadow on all streets between 4th and 5th avenues... probably inevitable if the population increases substantially over the next 20 years.

    I believe Park Slope is on its way to being similar to the upper west side. Low rise houses with large corner and avenue apartment buildings ... 50 years

    any thoughts?

    Charlesbklyn
  • teafolks
    teafolks
    It's a mixed bag, really. I think Ben is correct about 4th Ave not being such a nice place. I mean, I think we all think that. It's pretty much irrefutable. And I suppose development could bring some more of those good eats in North 5th thisaway, but I hope it's a slow, slow slow process.

    I lived in the Lower East Side when people had no idea where that was. And it wasn't too long ago. Moved there in 1999 or 2000. I visit there now and there are hi-rises going up every few blocks. 1 BR Condos starting at 850K--on DELANCY AND NORFOLK!!! I looked at a place over there around said time and it was like a Hubert Selby novel. I saw an apartment that had a pull-out tub under the sink, a bathroom that was so small you couldn't close the door when you were sitting down or it'd hit your knees, and I opened up the closet and there was a hole in the floor an an old, shirtless man was standing on the floor below, staring up at me. And now, 7 years latwer, 850!?!

    Now I don't think our neighborhood will change that quickly--there's a lot units as more and more of these places go up--but the feeling's not entirely dissimilar. I mean, before I went to the LES I lived in P.S. on 6th st. bet 4/5th and I would never have guessed it would have become like it is today. It was empty. A bit desolate. Scary, sometimes.

    (It's now a bistro, I believe.)
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