Connecticut Muffin comes to Ditmas Park
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So buy your coffee at Vox Pop, get yer muffin at Connecticut Muff. I don't see why these 2 places need to be at odds. VP is doing something very different than CM & I think they'll keep their customers.
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True. Vox Pop sells beer and anarchy.
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Or, get your muffins at John's Bakery.
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I heard that John's has been trying to get some tables out front but had a nearly impossible time getting the right permits.
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I love the new CT Muff! Vox Pop is great, don't get me wrong, but their prices are ridiculous. I'm not paying 3 bux for a cup of joe. I know Sander has to support his family and pay rent, but COME ON! I still love Vox Pop for everything else (i.e., everything except the overpriced coffee and tea). It is wonderful for our community. So I'll go to VP for open mic and readings and to flip through Bust, but I'm buying my coffee across the street at CT! *Also, if you get to the Muffin at the right time- right when they put out the samples- you can practicially get an entire muffin for free.
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Subject: 3 bucks for a cup of coffee
$3 is not a lot to pay for a cup of Fair Trade Coffee. It's not to pay Sander's rent and salary. It's to pay for living wages where the coffee comes from. One can pay under $2 for a cup of coffee, but that cup of coffee comes from beans traded on a commodity market, not fair prices based on the varying conditions of farming.
And of course, attending open mikes, readings, and flipping through magazines does not pay the rent and utilities that houses these activities. Buying coffee or anything else at Vox Pop will keep it open, plain and simple. If you think that having a place like this is good and valuable, you should support it. Having a place to go for a, let's say, more hassle-free snack and beverage is valuable too.
Of course, I have no idea what Connecticut Muffin's policies are regarding fair trade, sourcing locally, etc. -
$3 certainly is a lot to pay for a cup of joe, even if it is fairly traded. I do not believe that the coffee and tea are so expensive just because it is fairly traded. When the store first opened, everything was a lot cheaper. I realize there are costs to running a business, renting the space, paying employees, etc. But I am a working gal myself, and I simply cannot afford the luxury goods sold in Vox Pop. I sincerely do love the store though. And I do not take advantage of it. If I am in there to sit and hang out (it has a great atmosphere) I always buy something, as I would in any coffee shop; it's my way of paying rent for my a** on the chair. I even buy BOOKS there- yes, I buy books from the anarchist bookseller! I don't know why I am even writing all this. I originally posted to say that I appreciate the arrival of CT Muff. I prefer the awesome atmosphere at the Pop, but I cannot afford to buy coffee from them as frequently as I could from the Muffin. Nevertheless, I love the pop, have been going there since it opened in 2004 with the homemade furniture- I feel like it is a real fixture in the neighborhood, and it was critical in bringing about a sense of community that was sorely lacking. But I will complain about any coffee that costs $3 a cup. Final word: I love the Pop, I don't just go there to look at their magazines- I always buy something if I'm there because I want to support this neighborhood business. But what I buy is definitely not the $3 coffee.
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Fair enough. I don't mind paying $3 for a coffee, but that's because I buy coffee out maaaaybe once a month (instead of making it at home). I wonder if they expect people to buy that EVERY morning. I never got the sense they were vying for a "pastry and coffee quick on the way to the train" customer. I try not to buy baked goods when I can make them, but for stuff I don't want to make, I get them at the Farmer's Market. I WAS very excited about Vox Pop selling beer, except when they didn't have it, didn't know how to dispense it properly, and were high and mighty about even selling it ("I don't drink beer," a worker said disdainfully, when asked about the beers available).
As for books, they don't seem to have the left-leaning sociological titles I'm interested in, and NEVER are interested in getting it in for me. Or helping me look for something similar. Or helping me at all in any way whatsoever, actually. So, if I were a coffee and pastry every morning sort of person, I'd go to Connecticut Muffin every now and then just to have the lack of personal service, and go to Vox Pop when I felt like I could put up with the attitude, or even when I WANTED the attitude.
Mostly, it makes me feel old and cranky to be there. But I do like that it's there. -
CT is selling sandwiches for $9 and burgers for $10
anyone think this is crazy? -
Yes, I think the prices are completely crazy at CT Muffin. I was kinda psyched for this place to open and then went in over this past weekend. Yikes! I asked how much a piece of pecan pie was and the person behind the counter said $4.95! No thanks CT.
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i think that cm is great. starbucks sucks.
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Subject: Vox Pop and the neighborhood
Vox Pop is a nice place and they seem to have successfully found their niche, just like Picket Fence has. Now if we could only get a GOOD all around bookstore, and a regular (NOT FANCY) bar back in the neighborhood.
I used to like Alexanders / Boxers / Cornerstone but it got skanky as Boxers and as Cornerstone it just didn't have much to recommend it. Hence, they closed.. -
Baly wrote: I WAS very excited about Vox Pop selling beer, except when they didn't have it, didn't know how to dispense it properly, and were high and mighty about even selling it ("I don't drink beer," a worker said disdainfully, when asked about the beers available).
It really depends on when you go there and whose running the joint when you are. Last summer I went there for their BBQ (GREAT stuff) and I think it might have been the owner doing the cooking in front, and he was VERY friendly.
I DO agree that they don't appear to know how to dispense the beer, AND appear to not think much of it. What a way to treat the first food drink manufactured by humans!
The only problem I had once was getting weird looks and no service once when I went in wearing a jacket with a Masonic Square and Compasses on it (I am a Freemason) and I guess the (not well educated) people thought I was Skull & Bones or something.. My money spends the same as anyone elses..
Now, if we could only get a good all around bookstore, and bar in the neighborhood!!! -
As far as I am concerned the opening of a Connecticut Muffin is a sure sign of the destruction of a neighborhood. As soon as they are there you KNOW its all over.
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JAH wrote: As far as I am concerned the opening of a Connecticut Muffin is a sure sign of the destruction of a neighborhood. As soon as they are there you KNOW its all over.
SERIOUSLY??? I doubt that. There are enough places in the neighborhood so there is some competition as well as enough things to bring people here. If all you want is a nice quiet neighborhood, .. pretty soon it'll be a nice DEAD neighborhood..
Granted, I'd HATE my neighborhood to become another Park Slope or Dumbo, but I DO want some money and people coming out this way..
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