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Smoking in the backyard! Need your opinion — Brooklynian

Smoking in the backyard! Need your opinion

lmboogie
edited November -1 in Park Slope
So I just moved into the garden level of a brownstone and am a smoker but don't smoke inside the apartment. I've been going out back and maybe spoke 5 cigs between 6:PM and 11PM.

Am I being inconsiderate to my neighbors next door?

Thanks!

Comments

  • smoke until anyone asks you to stop.
  • Could be. I had a neighbor once who sat outside and smoked all day. If I left the door to my garden open the smoke would come into my house. It also killed my enjoyment of my yard because if I was outside I was only about 10 feet away from her cigs.

    It really depends on how your yard is set up and how much or little your neighbors use their space. It sounds like you're conscious of the potential for this to bother your neighbors which is the most important thing. Just continue to be aware of it, see if they are outside often, if they leave windows open, etc. and ask them if you are unsure. It could be as simple as moving to another part of the yard or there may be no issue at all.
  • It depends on whether the smoke it blowing into their apartments. I live right above a guy that used to go outside and smoke directly beneath our bedroom window. In the winter, no big deal, but the summer was another story since it was almost like having the guy smoking in the room with us. I eventually had to ask him to stop and to either go all the way into his backyard or smoke out in front of the building. Luckily, he agreed and there was no ugliness. So far so good. But yeah, you should try to be aware of your neighbors and make sure your smoke is not affecting them.
  • No this is wrong. A little preemptive courtesy can go a long way. If you're doing something that probably will affect other people, the burden should rightly be on you to minimize or mitigate it.
    brooklynpotter wrote: smoke until anyone asks you to stop.
  • Like Ben and Slopehead stated, be aware of where your smoke is wafting. It is is going directly into their window, then yeah, that probably isn't too cool. If it is blowing off somewhere else, then puff away. Just pay attention and by asking here it appears that you are going to be considerate.
  • personally I feel that you have done your considerate neighbor duty by going outside. You have no control over the wind and which way it blows nor do you have control over your neighbors windows. As long as it is still legal to smoke cigarettes outside then you need do no more.

    If your neighbor comes out and complains, tell them you pay rent too, and that last you checked, America was still a free country.
  • MeredithB wrote: As long as it is still legal to smoke cigarettes outside then you need do no more.

    If your neighbor comes out and complains, tell them you pay rent too, and that last you checked, America was still a free country.
    The question was "Am I being inconsiderate to my neighbors next door?"

    Not what was legal.

    It is certainly legal to be inconsiderate, doesn't mean you have to do it though.
  • I realize what the question was daver, no, Imboogie is not being inconsiderate to his/her neighbors next door and if the neighbors don't like the smoke that may just happen to waft through their windows then they can close them.
  • I live upstairs from a garden and the tenants downstairs smoke in the yard right below us. Like someone else said in the winter it doesn't matter but EVERYONE knows that in the Summer you have to have the windows open otherwise you heat box your apartment. Be curtious in the summer and smoke towards the back of your garden. I get home around the time you're probably lighting up, that's just the time I'm trying desperately to cool my room so that I can sleep.

    BTW, you can probably see from below when the windows are open and know to smoke further away.
  • Imboogie, welcome to Brooklynian. I like that you're thinking about your neighbors. And not wanting them to hate you when it's pretty avoidable.
    :D

    I wouldn't wait for someone to yell out their window. Smoking at the back of the yard is a great suggestion, 'cause smoke really does travel in to other people's windows if the wind is right. I used to get it in my living room from a neighbor on his front stoop, but that's not nearly as bad as getting someone else's smoke in your bedroom, which is usually what's in the back of the building for the quiet.

    The other thing is to make sure you don't start a fire. Should be obvious, right?
    Meh.
    My neighbor set a wooden stockade fence on fire late one night - the smoldering cig set the wooden bench she was sitting on alight after she went inside. We ran out at 1am to her trying to put out a blaze with water from a tea kettle. She was stressed out, tired, distracted - it can happen to anybody. Don't let it happen to you!
  • My vote? Yes, it is inconsiderate. Not everyone feels comfortable asking someone else to stop smoking. Besides, almost everyone will suffer in silence for at least a little while, building up resentment, before they ask you to stop -- if only to see if it's going to be very occasional, or if it's going to be a pattern.

    Consider this as well: Smoke is an asthma trigger for many people, and asthma is reaching near-epidemic proportions in city children. If you can avoid aggravating the situation, that would be a good deed.

    I applaud you for giving a damn about how your fellow humans feel. So, IMO: The onus is on you to not do the potentially offensive behavior, not on them to ask you to stop.

    And thanks for asking. <--(not sarcastic)
  • as someone who lives 2 floors above smokers, yes, you probably are not smoking unnoticed. I can bet they can smell your smoke. Whether it bothers them personally is another story. if you are considerate enough to wonder to us, why don't you ask them (and be prepared to stop if they don't like it)?
  • Thank you all, really helped me decide what I'm going to do.

    I'll always look up to see if my neighbors upstairs have their windows open. If they do, I'll smoke my cig towards the back of the yard away from their window. Fortunately the windows have always been closed so I get to sit right on the patio furniture.

    As for the neighbors on the side of me.... well, I'm going to have to agree with MeridthB "I have no control over the wind and which way it blows" so their on their own. If it bothers them they should try talking about it with me. No they shouldn't tell me to stop smoking but I'm sure we can come up with a compromise.

    Sorry Brooke Lynn Knight but I can't take on responsibility for triggering asthma in city children. I have enought guilt about my smoking.....don't need another.

    Don't worry Pitu, I always use an ashtray so no chance of me burning the joint down.

    Nice to be on this board.
  • I would go ahead and smoke. If they can't muster the sack to ask you to stop, then it it isn't bothering them that much.

    Seriously, though, people have gotten waaaay too sensitive when it comes to a little cigarette smoke. I used to go out in the alley behind our building (accessed through the basement) for a smoke when I was waiting for a laundry cycle to end or whatever. Of course the building tool/busybody complains that his wittle sniffer caught a whiff of smoke when he came down. Ridiculous. It's the basement! Tell ya what: 1) Nobody lives down there; and 2) The place always smells like garbage, paint, mold, whatever. Hold on, now I've gotta go punch this fool.
  • I, too, am glad that you've at least given it a little thought. I was actually going to post something along these lines the other day, but from the other perspective.

    The people that live behind me have been cleaning up their back yard (a good thing - the piles of garbage were fighting it out with the overgrown shrubbery for backyard supremacy) but they've been burning stuff back there lately... nothing toxic, just the plant growth, but still, it stinks. To make matters worse, many buildings are built with a bit of suction - open a window and air comes streaming in, breeze or no breeze. I live on the third floor but I've a sensitive nose and can tell when someone is smoking a backyard or two away and it's really unpleasant when they're in my back yard... it's not a matter of a little smoke, it's saturating.
  • It doesn't sound that bad to me but I've been known to smoke the occasional cigarette in my own backyard. Maybe you could alternate the backyard cigarette with one on the stoop. Actually, my neighbor used to smoke so much pot on his stoop late at night that it stank up my whole house (I don't mind the smell but he smoked a lot and it was kind of overpowering.)

    My neighbors have a grill that is basically right next to my living room window so I get to smell their nasty carcinogenic meat every night (I'm a vegetarian).

    What can you do? We live really close together in Brooklyn and have to smell each other's smells, for better or worse.
  • Subject: Re: Smoking in the backyard! Need your opinion

    lmboogie wrote: So I just moved into the garden level of a brownstone and am a smoker but don't smoke inside the apartment. I've been going out back and maybe spoke 5 cigs between 6:PM and 11PM.

    Am I being inconsiderate to my neighbors next door?

    Thanks!
    Forget your neighbors, start thinking about your health.
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