my lovely neighbors building a new house.
they were digging up a foundation and using a back hole and it is effecting my building.
they dug too close.
My tenants told me about this problem and one of them reported this to the 311. I'm glad they got a stop work order on them.
all my foundations of my building is now exposed. part of my of property was dug into.
Also i think they are over building their site. according to property shark. their max far for the building is only 2,838 sf. they are building a 3,400 sf building on dob website.
they dug too close.
My tenants told me about this problem and one of them reported this to the 311. I'm glad they got a stop work order on them.
all my foundations of my building is now exposed. part of my of property was dug into.
Also i think they are over building their site. according to property shark. their max far for the building is only 2,838 sf. they are building a 3,400 sf building on dob website.
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holy crap. have you been out to see it yet? we're convinced the people who built next to us affected our foundation... but that was years before we moved in.
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yeah everything seems okay. but the foundations is exposed and part of my side is a bit damage on the external wall.
it seems minor. from what i can see from a gap between the fence they have up, but they are sending someone over from the dob tomorrow to check it out.
I think they wouldn't of been caught except for one of my tenants calling 311 on them. and telling me. I saw it today. they started this yesterday and today i saw the foundation.
the property is own by rohan the mechanic. -
When this happened to my neighbor, they asked for (and got) an insurance policy protecting their property.
all done before actual digging, but hey . . .
bust them on the overFAR -- it SUCKS to live next to an illegally oversized building.
They blot out your sun and air . . .
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thanks. how do i get insurance for this? if you know
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The people doing the building -- the owners of the lot next door -- get the insurance, and indemnify you by name. You might need a lawyer . . .
If you had a good contractor working on your place before, they might have dealt with this before. I'm just a schmo on the internet, you know.
Come to think of it, if damage has already been done it's too late for insurance. You'd be looking for insurance to cover any additional damage, which is certainly possible in the course of their construction. Take documentation photos asap - if you have problems (water, pests, whatever) that show up later, you might have to take them to court.
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thanks for the info.
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armchair, you might want to get in touch with the people on the southsouthslope.com website. they're been dealing with crap like this for a few years now, developers who ended up destroying local homes and cracking a church on 8th ave on half. they could likely tell you who to speak with.
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PM me asap with all the info.
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you were exactly who i thought he should speak with.
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Yes...;)
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i know, not something you wish you were an expert on
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Trial by fire...feet first into the void.
Now it's a combination of comfortability, continuing to learn the code/bureaucracy and my daily outrage at what goes on in our boro, the City for that matter with new development.
Shameful. I can only think of enough "good" sites to barely count on one hand
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that doesn't look good...
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Working on it...
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armchair, you need to secure an attorney TODAY. lostingreenwoodhts can tell you who to speak with.
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Actually, on the attorney front, i have very few leads...not many folks out there want to represent the little guy, but boy they like representing the developers :evil:
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they put up support today according to my parents now. they were just there saw some sort of wood stuff going up next to wall.
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Supports or forms for the foundations?
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I'll have to go check it out tonight. My mom told me.
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mmmm...rocks. maybe they'll find another giant boulder in there somewhere.
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Hey Armchair,
This is all serious business and there are, no doubt, a lot of "cowboys" out there doing illegal and unsafe work. good for you for looking out for your prop.
FYI:
1. Many adjacent buildings and lots encroach on to adjacent properties in New York. As a rule of thumb, when we create architectural plans for a building that is right next to another ( like row houses, etc.) to allow for an additional 6"-8" of inward "play" ( we make our building thinner by 6"-8" on each side from the property lines) because in may cased of 100 year old structures in NYC, properties encroach and it is good to be prepared for it. Properties also move over time...seriously. Do you know for a fact ( with a civil survey) that it is not YOUR property that is encroaching on your neighbors and not the other way around?
2. An exposed foundation, especially the one that you have, is not necessarily a sign of imminent danger. That is a 100 y.o. THICK stone foundation that is more solid than any new home has today. When doing new construction next to you, the owner has a right, within reason, to utilize all of their property for building and even come on to your property for the purposes of stabilizing his new structure (within reason is the key -and asking is always a plus of course).
However, when doing foundation work near old structures like that, the contractor should be taking all of the necessary precautions to stabilize adjacent properties. You have a right to ask for the engineering calculations for the soil removal, to see the APPROVED DOB drawings (with professional stamp and perforation from DOB). Shoring and underpinning may even be required for adjacent properties and their should be drawings and even a separate permit for the engineering, excavation work...Are they driving or drilling piles?
3. Anyone can DOB get a Stop Work Order for any reason and be back up an running the next day when the inspector comes by and says everything is okay. The DOB inspectors are idiots and they are short staffed. Protect yourself and keep documenting - especially if there is ANY movement during construction. Some inconsequential movement may happen - it usually does (cm's) but let us know if you can no longer open doors in your house...:)
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sevenoneeighty, i have to say that given what i've seen going on in south slope, esp on 15th street, and 16th street, if this happened at my property i'd get a lawyer within minutes.
in the situations i've mentioned--and greenwood, please correct me if i am wrong--311 and the DOB have been called again and again and work continued, complaints weren't taken, situations were ignored. down in this nabe, residents are ready to see red flags in a millisecond because they've already had their property destroyed while going through the correct channels that are supposed to protect them.
not to be snarky, honest, but do you work for the DOB? -
brooklynpotter wrote: sevenoneeighty, i have to say that given what i've seen going on in south slope, esp on 15th street, and 16th street, if this happened at my property i'd get a lawyer within minutes.
No, I'm an architect and I deal with this sort of thing from time to time.
in the situations i've mentioned--and greenwood, please correct me if i am wrong--311 and the DOB have been called again and again and work continued, complaints weren't taken, situations were ignored. down in this nabe, residents are ready to see red flags in a millisecond because they've already had their property destroyed while going through the correct channels that are supposed to protect them.
not to be snarky, honest, but do you work for the DOB?
But I am encouraging Armchair to look out for himself and just giving him some information that might be helpful. He should definitely be cautious and look out for his property - did you get some other impression from my post...?
But people should also know that construction is not always straight forward and especially when you are dealing with new buildings being built immediately adjacent to old structures in New York and with very greedy, careless contractors that do not want to follow procedure. I mentioned the "cowboy" contractor angle because it is possible that the work going on next to him is completely out of line and dangerous.
However, on some jobs I've had "concerned" neighbors call 311 and DOB for any and everything because they didn't like the new building going up in their neighborhood ( I'm NOT saying armchair is doing this at all) and the DOB starts to ignore thee complaints as gossip after a few calls and repeated visits for minor or no issues. If you have the specific information and know what to ask for (engineering calculations, civil survey, perforated drawings) your case will get more immediate attention and let the contractor know you know what to ask for at the right time.
For example, during the Meier building foundation construction, ppl were complaining daily about the sidewalk being torn up - but this is typical and the contractor/owner had a right to do it ( providing the permits were valid) and it is done in order to make the foundation at the owner's property line - which is within his right to do so...While it looked bad, it is part of construction and proper precautions and protections must be provided (fences, sheds, alternate route and signage), but it IS legal.
Another example: With permission from the NYC Parks Department you CAN cut down a large tree (and replace it with others) but neighbors still call DOB and Parks to complain when they see it happening.... -
sorry, i didn't get the impression from your post that you felt he shouldn't be pro-active.
and i'm sure that 311 and the DOB get all sorts of calls from all sorts of people, well meaning and not.
i can only tell you what i've heard/what's been documented down here on the 15th street/16th street construction sites... and that's a whole lot of incompetence, 311 operators being misinformed or useless, the DOB not helping, etc. lostingreenwoodheights can tell you more of what i'm talking aout, or you can go to the southsouthslope.com site to get more of an idea.
it's hard not to jump rabidly in seeing situations like this begin after what i've seen happen a block away. i didn't mean to insult, just to let you know that the laws don't always work the way we want them to, or the way they should.
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