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I agree that Target is totally understocked. I go mainly for baby/kids items and I don't know why I bother. I always end up checking out Baby Depot in the Burlington Coat Factory and they consistently have everything I need. The prices are better and it is always empty in there. The service is not great and the return policy stinks, but a much better bet for baby items. I know the OP was not looking for that but thought I'd mention it since Target is hopeless.
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kuehnster wrote: Dropped by Beast on a Friday night to find it was packed, and was told by the hostess to call before we come the next time. Never called a bar before...
keuhnster, Beast is a restaurant. It does have a bar, but the hostess probably thought you wanted dinner. On Fridays and Saturdays, you definitely need a reservation for dinner -- but it's worth it. hopefully you are not deterred from trying it again. -
ana.log wrote: [quote=kuehnster]Dropped by Beast on a Friday night to find it was packed, and was told by the hostess to call before we come the next time. Never called a bar before...
keuhnster, Beast is a restaurant. It does have a bar, but the hostess probably thought you wanted dinner. On Fridays and Saturdays, you definitely need a reservation for dinner -- but it's worth it. hopefully you are not deterred from trying it again.
They have good brunch as well--if you go before noon there's no wait. -
alafairnadia wrote: [quote=BrookFetish]Long story short, the Brooklyn Target is a horrible representation for an otherwise wonderful department store chain.
well, except for their whole pharmacy telling women to fuck off thing.
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caaahyoko:
I think the pharmacy feelings are due to Target's not filling the morning after pill, no? -
bkrindy wrote: caaahyoko:
I thought so. :evil:
I think the pharmacy feelings are due to Target's not filling the morning after pill, no? -
Subject: Re: DeeDee
sweet tea wrote: i've also never had the experience of that target having all the items i'm looking for on a given day in stock. sometimes they haven't had ANY of them.
And here I am getting ready to walk to Target and attempt to find one of those 350-count CD storage books. I'll send up a little prayer to the sock gods.
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Subject: Target
Target refills its selves every Tuesday....so go in there on a Wednesday is your best bet for getting all the things you were looking for. -
Subject: Re: DeeDee
meganlibrarian wrote: [quote=sweet tea]i've also never had the experience of that target having all the items i'm looking for on a given day in stock. sometimes they haven't had ANY of them.
And here I am getting ready to walk to Target and attempt to find one of those 350-count CD storage books. I'll send up a little prayer to the sock gods.
Aaaaaaand... I was denied!
(To their credit, the shelf tags led me to believe that they never carried the 300-something CD books, just the 200-something CD books of which they had maybe 3-5 in stock. Serves me right for owning so many damned CDs!)
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Subject: Re: DeeDee
meganlibrarian wrote: [quote=meganlibrarian][quote=sweet tea]i've also never had the experience of that target having all the items i'm looking for on a given day in stock. sometimes they haven't had ANY of them.
And here I am getting ready to walk to Target and attempt to find one of those 350-count CD storage books. I'll send up a little prayer to the sock gods.
Aaaaaaand... I was denied!
(To their credit, the shelf tags led me to believe that they never carried the 300-something CD books, just the 200-something CD books of which they had maybe 3-5 in stock. Serves me right for owning so many damned CDs!)
Hmm....is Circuit City still there? You could try them if you're brave enough to return. -
That's the kind of thing you should just order online (I got 6 of those books online).
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Subject: Re: DeeDee
meganlibrarian wrote: [quote=meganlibrarian][quote=sweet tea]i've also never had the experience of that target having all the items i'm looking for on a given day in stock. sometimes they haven't had ANY of them.
And here I am getting ready to walk to Target and attempt to find one of those 350-count CD storage books. I'll send up a little prayer to the sock gods.
Aaaaaaand... I was denied!
(To their credit, the shelf tags led me to believe that they never carried the 300-something CD books, just the 200-something CD books of which they had maybe 3-5 in stock. Serves me right for owning so many damned CDs!)
Im almost positive that they sell them at Staples and Office Max -
bkrindy wrote: caaahyoko:
boo, target. they're on my boycott list. while i generally love their stuff, i won't walk in the door again till the higher ups change the pharmacy regulations. (rite aid too.)
I think the pharmacy feelings are due to Target's not filling the morning after pill, no?
but, if you hit that mall the best place for housewares--with the worst service ever--is marshall's. i know, you wouldn't think of it for housewares, but they have great pots, pans, knives, cookbooks, dinnerware, sheets, etc. and really really affordable. (and good shoes as well) -
Weighing in on a few themes of this thread, I've also noticed that the quality of chains in NYC is horrid compared to its quality elsewhere in America. My guess is that it's due to a combination of a poorly qualified workforce that lacks a culture and understanding of what good service really is, and a consumer body that is similarly undemanding, and in fact can provoke bad service by its own rudeness. In addition, b/c there are so few large discount stores like Target, the ones that do make it in have very little competition and are therefore able to get away with such terrible service.
On another note, can someone clarify exactly what the issue is with the Target pharmacies? I'm not up to date on this particular scandal--is it that some Target pharmacies are refusing to prescribe morning after pills, or that the whole corporation has banned it, or something else? Thanks. -
escap wrote: My guess is that it's due to a combination of a poorly qualified workforce that lacks a culture and understanding of what good service really is, and a consumer body that is similarly undemanding, and in fact can provoke bad service by its own rudeness. In addition, b/c there are so few large discount stores like Target, the ones that do make it in have very little competition and are therefore able to get away with such terrible service.
I think the cost of retail space per sqft is a significant factor; trying to fit all that inventory into a fraction of the space without raising prices substantially leads to an overcrowded and chaotic chainstore shopping environment, as well as pressure to cut costs by cutting the number of workers per shopper. I've seen this again and again comparing inner city vs. semi-rural stores in different countries. The higher the population density, the less space and service per shopper at a given price point. -
doctorj wrote:
Be it GMO's, economics or discount retailers, as usual I stand in awe of your seemingly limitless knowledge and intellect. [-o<
I think the cost of retail space per sqft is a significant factor; trying to fit all that inventory into a fraction of the space without raising prices substantially leads to an overcrowded and chaotic chainstore shopping environment, as well as pressure to cut costs by cutting the number of workers per shopper. I've seen this again and again comparing inner city vs. semi-rural stores in different countries. The higher the population density, the less space and service per shopper at a given price point. -
escap wrote: On another note, can someone clarify exactly what the issue is with the Target pharmacies? I'm not up to date on this particular scandal--is it that some Target pharmacies are refusing to prescribe morning after pills, or that the whole corporation has banned it, or something else? Thanks.
They give the pharmacist the ability to decline a prescription for the morning after pill if [abortion] is contrary to the pharmacist's beliefs. I haven't heard of a refusal yet, but maybe others have... -
WhyFi wrote: [quote=escap]On another note, can someone clarify exactly what the issue is with the Target pharmacies? I'm not up to date on this particular scandal--is it that some Target pharmacies are refusing to prescribe morning after pills, or that the whole corporation has banned it, or something else? Thanks.
They give the pharmacist the ability to decline a prescription for the morning after pill if [abortion] is contrary to the pharmacist's beliefs. I haven't heard of a refusal yet, but maybe others have...
actually yes, a big one in missouri, which started the whole brou-haha in the first place: http://wonkette.com/politics/target/refusal-clauses-off-target-133072.php
and the really crazy thing: wal-mart has disbanded its similar policy, not allowing the prescriptions to be denied. -
brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=WhyFi][quote=escap]On another note, can someone clarify exactly what the issue is with the Target pharmacies? I'm not up to date on this particular scandal--is it that some Target pharmacies are refusing to prescribe morning after pills, or that the whole corporation has banned it, or something else? Thanks.
They give the pharmacist the ability to decline a prescription for the morning after pill if [abortion] is contrary to the pharmacist's beliefs. I haven't heard of a refusal yet, but maybe others have...
actually yes, a big one in missouri, which started the whole brou-haha in the first place: http://wonkette.com/politics/target/refusal-clauses-off-target-133072.php
and the really crazy thing: wal-mart has disbanded its similar policy, not allowing the prescriptions to be denied.
I assume state and federal laws are silent on this issue? I am totally in favor of allowing all forms of contraception and am passionately pro-choice, but I have to admit that the idea of allowing employees to abide by their own consciences and sense of ethics does strike a chord with me. I would have no problem with Target's policy if, for example, they told Joe Conservative that he didn't have to prescribe controversial medicine, but that he couldn't prevent his co-worker from doing it. That way he could sleep at night but Target would still be providing its customers with what they need. I know you will protest, but this is essentially no different from Michael Moore persuading K-Mart to stop selling guns; it denied customers a desired product, but K-Mart took an ethical stand. In this case, you (and I) disagree with that the ethical stand in question, but it's still their prerogative. -
Upon further reflection, I'd like to add that I would far prefer it if Target came out and publicly endorsed prescription of the pill, but they're probably too cowardly to take such a stand. I do think it's terrible to deny a woman a prescription in this type of situation and I would be absolutely outraged if I was a woman who needed the pill and was turned down. So I guess I'm of two minds on this.
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one of the differences between this and the kmart/gun situation is that many people are restricted in their choice of pharmacy by their prescription plan. while removing guns from kmart's shelves may effect total sales of guns by lessening demand (assuming that some of that demand is based on seeing products on offer, given that buying decisions are often not rational), a person who really wants a gun is unlikely, for better or for worse, to have difficulty locating an alternate business. (and liberals like me can smile at the thought of our well-regulated militia patronizing local independents!)
in rural areas, it can present a real problem if your plan's pharmacy will not fill your legal prescription.
and, of course, there is always the question of why one would become a pharmacist if one had an aversion to filling prescriptions. -
sweet tea wrote: one of the differences between this and the kmart/gun situation is that many people are restricted in their choice of pharmacy by their prescription plan. in rural areas, it can present a real problem if your plan's pharmacy will not fill your legal prescription.
I wonder how many people really have Target as their only choice for a pharmacy. It's gotta be a tiny number, if any. But I can appreciate that some people may face this kind of problem at all the local pharmacies (of course my advice to them would be to move!). All companies have obligations to their shareholders, creditors, customers and employees, and in this case Target seems to be worrying about upsetting the delicate sensitivities of a small number of its employees, and perhaps a significant number of customers, more than it's worrying about fulfilling the demands of specific customers in need. And since prescription drugs are not the equivalent of cheap laundry detergent, they are potentially denying people the ability to gain critical medicine. I guess in these controversial issues you're bound to piss someone off. More importantly, I guess I wish our country wasn't filled with such incredibly conservative people whose moral framework seems drawn from the middle ages. Oh well. -
escap wrote: Upon further reflection, I'd like to add that I would far prefer it if Target came out and publicly endorsed prescription of the pill, but they're probably too cowardly to take such a stand. I do think it's terrible to deny a woman a prescription in this type of situation and I would be absolutely outraged if I was a woman who needed the pill and was turned down. So I guess I'm of two minds on this.
They used to give money to Planned Parenthood but quit because they worried about alienating their customer base. Such a shame, Target used to be a pretty liberal, forward company. -
erikka wrote: They used to give money to Planned Parenthood but quit because they worried about alienating their customer base. Such a shame, Target used to be a pretty liberal, forward company.
Interesting. I personally wish companies would be neither liberal nor conservative--that's what politicians, talking heads and bloggers are for. Can't my discount supermarket just provide me with cheap dishware and socks without making a social statement out of it? (This doesn't mean I'm opposed to corporate social responsibility, just corporate moral posturing.) -
"Target's policy allows its pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions for moral and religious reasons.
If they take this option, pharmacists are required to ensure that the prescription is filled in a timely and respectful manner by another Target pharmacist or at a different pharmacy."
From:
http://tinyurl.com/q45rp
The policy is still disquieting. The company also gives away 5 percent of its pretax profits -- a policy that forces it into being defined by whom it chooses to give the money to. Dayton Hudson (pre-Target) was certainly a more 'liberal' company than what exists today. -
while i still find the policy annoying and ethically questionable, i am somewhat relieved by the second provision.
thanks, chris. -
Thanks, Chris, that is interesting to know, and I'm glad to hear that Target is making sure it's customers get what they need. Sounds like it's trying to pull off a delicate balance act.
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escap wrote:
Actually, the middle ages are generally agreed to have ended in Europe when the Lutherans split from the Catholics. I'd trace the moral framework whose conservative hangover we're suffering to the subsequent century, the most violent period of European history prior to the 20th c., and a group of religious extremists who felt the reformation didn't go far enough. We could compare this with the slightly earlier colonized countries to the South whose moral framework could be said to owe more to the late middle ages.
More importantly, I guess I wish our country wasn't filled with such incredibly conservative people whose moral framework seems drawn from the middle ages. Oh well.
Was there a question about houseware and nightlife? -
doctorj wrote: [quote=escap]
Actually, the middle ages are generally agreed to have ended in Europe when the Lutherans split from the Catholics. I'd trace the moral framework whose conservative hangover we're suffering to the subsequent century, the most violent period of European history prior to the 20th c., and a group of religious extremists who felt the reformation didn't go far enough. We could compare this with the slightly earlier colonized countries to the South whose moral framework could be said to owe more to the late middle ages.
More importantly, I guess I wish our country wasn't filled with such incredibly conservative people whose moral framework seems drawn from the middle ages. Oh well.
Was there a question about houseware and nightlife?
:? I stand by my original comment. [-( -
so where do you guys do your groceries? any regular markets around st. marks and classon?
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