PARKING
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I'm damned glad I don't have a car anymore.
Some advice:
- Use other neighborhoods in a pinch. Anywhere is easier than the Slope. I used to park in WT quite a bit.
- Bumpers are meant to be hit, hence the name - no need to feel bad about it. If someone can afford a Lexus, he can afford to park it in a lot.
- If that spot looks too good to be true, it probably is.
- Tired of those stupid freaking demolition dumpsters taking up a good three spots on every G.D. block these days? Make the trade work for you and dispose of any unwieldy junk and appliances that the Department of Sanitation won't take.
- They don't let you get park nearly as close to a hydrant in Brooklyn as they do in Manhattan. -
new2hood wrote: you guys realize there are parking garages in PS, right?
Yeah--on Union and, what is it, 12th? If there were a garage or a lot within a few blocks' radius of my house, I'd shell out happily. As it is, I'd be trading a lengthy walk for the occasional lengthy search for a parking space, probably spending more time and paying for the privilege. -
Garfunky wrote: [quote=nubnu]why is it so bad here?
apparently youre unaware what 5th ave was like 15 yrs ago
its pretty simple - add 50 bars / restaurants to any neighborhood without adding any parking and the locals will suddenly have difficulty.
You people all think the same way, are you this clueless?
You think tons and tons of people drive to bars and restaurants in close-in brooklyn? Why do you think that?
Do you think they are still sitting on their barstool at 9am, when it's also impossible to find parking? Um... huh?
It's simple, JUST ADD 50,000 YUPPIE MOTHERS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN WHO DON'T FEEL LIKE DRAGGING STROLLERS UP SUBWAY STAIRS AND JUST *HAVE* TO HAVE A CAR TO A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
And locals will suddenly have difficulty.
Always blaming someone else. The cars line the streets 24/7. Restaurants are busy a few hour a day. It's residents with cars (because of their kids) that fill up the spaces.
Think, then stop blaming everyone else. -
Just goes to show that there's no problem in the Slope that can't be blamed on strollers somehow.
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Drano wrote: Just goes to show that there's no problem for uptight brooklyn newcomes that can't be blamed on bars and nightlife somehow.
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Yeah and locals never had children.... :roll: and bought cars....
According to your logic these childless locals would not buy cars because, of course, they have no kids.. so then why would they care about parking issues? It seems what we have here is a cheap excuse to use a thread to incite another argument about race/whites/locals vs. newbies/strollerz....... ad nauseum... -
Mamacita wrote: Yeah and locals never had children.... :roll: and bought cars....
1) The demographics have become skewed more towards families with higher incomes over the past 15 years. The number of residents has risen overall, and with this wealth and gentrification has come a reduction in crime, specifically car thefts and break ins.
According to your logic these childless locals would not buy cars because, of course, they have no kids.. so then why would they care about parking issues? It seems what we have here is a cheap excuse to use a thread to incite another argument about race/whites/locals vs. newbies/strollerz....... ad nauseum...
2) There are a few more bars and restaurants. More accurately there are a lot more upscale restaurants replacing neighborhood places, rather than massive numbers of new ones, but there has certainly been an increase.
That guy up there wants to blame lack of parking on 2, when 1 is obviously the far more relevant answer.
QED
EL FLAILEY
MADD PIMPIN' ON DEMOGRAPHIC SKILLZ -
veets wrote: [quote=jennitrixie][quote=rtraindweller]i rarely have a problem parking in front of my apartment or around the corner. but im more towards sunset park on 4th Ave. also what I do love is that If i absolutely can't find a spot within a block or two I'll just park it under the gowanus expressway on 3rd Ave. and you NEVER have to move it there!
Ha--over there I'd think you'd be more likely to have someone "move" it for you!
How unfortunate that IS TRUE..
Parking there is like leaving your car in chop shoppe land.
ive never had a problem with it under there. and hell if someone wants it they can have it. they're getting the biggest piece of shit under that overpass. i dont need a car here, it's just convenient for when i wanna go to Costco. either way i only put there if i cant find a spot near my building. infact twice i've had out of town visitors have their cars broken into in front of my building. i dont think it matters much where it is, if someone wants to get into your car, they'll get in. -
Flailey wrote: [quote=Drano]Just goes to show that there's no problem for uptight brooklyn newcomes that can't be blamed on bars and nightlife somehow.
I wrote what now? -
Drano wrote: [quote=Flailey][quote=Drano]Just goes to show that there's no problem for uptight brooklyn newcomes that can't be blamed on bars and nightlife somehow.
I wrote what now?
OH SNAP I WAS JUS' FIXING UP YOUR POSTINGS TO BE MORE ACCURATE-LIKE. DIDN'T MEAN TO CAUSE NO CONFUSIONS -
"'cause that's how you roll."
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"The neighborhood had a population of more than 62,000 as of the 2000 census." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Slope,_Brooklyn
U.S. Census 2000 % of households that do not own or lease a motor vehicle: Brooklyn: 54%
http://www.transalt.org/press/askta/020422.html
"The 1980 census showed a population of 65,200 and 29,000 housing units." re 5th ave ''In 1991 you wouldn't go there at night to find a hamburger. Now you can get a full meal any time of day.''
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E6DD1F3FF93BA15751C1A9659C8B63
in early 90's i recall only ONE restaurant on the blocks of 5th ave from carroll to 1st. Aunt Suzies, as the decade progressed cucina (now whatever) showed up.
moutarde was a funeral home.ozzies was a burnt out building.
the thai ? vietnamese place was a laundromat, fancy ass pizza place was a pharmacy. the Lighthouse was a plumbing shop. Bonnies grill / Blue ribbon / bar was a disgusting supermarket. so i count a minimum of 8 "new"(going back to 91 ) restaurant cafe bars on these 2 blocks alone .
the commerce bank was a parking lot btw
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your point about new housing/residents does have some validity.
the area betwen 4th and 5th in general used to have many more vacant lots/PARKING LOTS, and industrial businesses
like a metal fabricator a glass shop an office supply warehouse.
Indeed much of this is now new housing. and therefore there must be a slight increase in population but hardly 50000 MOMMIES (plus their kids and presumably a few fathers ?)
ive seen the restaurants get built and the spaces dwindle ...
i like some of these new places, dont like others ,and theres quite a few i simply laugh at as i pass.
5th ave is now a destination and the out of towners very obvious (they are the ones someone is pointing out all the "landmarks" to . ie .. moutarde used to be a funeral home etc).
I think its good for the area in general, but in 1991 i absolutely never had to circle for parking and that was with 4 day a week alt side ! ...... the situation is what it is. there are MANY more bars retaurants, 5th ave IS a destination ,and the immediate area has actually LOST many parking spots over the years.
the only "hate" displayed is in your words. -
Garfunky:
Back in the old days, REAL Brooklynites would never have gotten actual Census facts like you geeky yuppies do nowadays...
And we didn't have cars OR strollers. Once the kid turned 2, you'd saddle him up like a horse and ride him! -
AIN'T NO HATE, HOLMES
FACT: PARKING IS A PROBLEM 24/7
FACT: RESTAURANT/BAR PARKING AFFECTS THINGS ONLY DURING PEAK HOURS
CONCLUSION: RESTAURANT/BAR PARKING NOT THE ROOT OF PROBLEM
EOM -
The "locals" on my block have way more cars than the newcomers -- they tend to have multiple cars per household, while the newer people usually just have one car or none.
Anyone who has lived (and driven) in Park Slope since before the transformation of 5th Avenue knows that it is 1000x harder to park on or near 5th Ave. than it was ten or even five years ago. I don't see how that can be in dispute.
It's hard to park at 9:00 a.m. because of alternate side -- unless you don't mind putting your car in a spot that you'll have to move it out of in two hours. -
moutarde was a funeral home.ozzies was a burnt out building.
Irrelevant, and correct me if I'm wrong. Moutarde was the steakhouse Mike and Tony's (allied with Cucina), and before that the funeral home. Ozzies was an extension of Aunt Suzies, in the form of an inane ice-cream parlour/furniture store (and possibly the burnt out building that you speak of before that). Lighthouse was Lenny's antique store (the dentist was the plumbing store until very recently). La Villa was a bakery (Maria's rugelach?). Don't you love this minutiae?
the thai ? vietnamese place was a laundromat, fancy ass pizza place was a pharmacy. the Lighthouse was a plumbing shop.FACT: RESTAURANT/BAR PARKING AFFECTS THINGS ONLY DURING PEAK HOURS
Right. Other times I find parking relatively quickly. Therefore I believe it is the influx of driving restaurant-goers.
Anecdotal arguments rule. -
The "locals" on my block have way more cars than the newcomers -- they tend to have multiple cars per household, while the newer people usually just have one car or none.
Yes! More irrefutable evidence! There's a guy across from me that has lived in the PS, like, FOREVER (don't contradict me), who owns 3 crappy BMWs, none of which work, plus a family van for actual vehicular travel. He spends his life tinkering with his darling, impotent, cars and having his mates push them from one side of the street to the other on alt. parking days.
Hate him. -
Yes, I know it's spring when the men of my block come out to tinker with their cars.
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Rose wrote: The "locals" on my block have way more cars than the newcomers -- they tend to have multiple cars per household, while the newer people usually just have one car or none.
My experience exactly. Also, as a rule, the longer-term the resident, the larger the vehicle. -
germfree! wrote: Ozzies was an extension of Aunt Suzies, in the form of an inane ice-cream parlour/furniture store ...
The ice cream store was Luna Park. I liked them. I don't recall their selling furniture, though there was a lot of it. Maybe it was burned out before that.germfree! wrote: Right. Other times I find parking relatively quickly. Therefore I believe it is the influx of driving restaurant-goers.
I don't know if you were being sarcastic, but this is my experience too. Parking in the middle of the day (non-peak bar/restaurant time) is much easier, if no picnic.
Anecdotal arguments rule. -
Not sarcastic at all. Restaurant/bar time is markedly much worse for my parking mojo.
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linusvanpelt wrote: [quote=germfree!]Ozzies was an extension of Aunt Suzies, in the form of an inane ice-cream parlour/furniture store ...
The ice cream store was Luna Park. I liked them. I don't recall their selling furniture, though there was a lot of it. Maybe it was burned out before that.
Yeah, I remember the furniture. It was part of Aunt Suzie's and they would have a weekend buffet brunch where you could get all-you-could-eat of fettuccini alfredo and so forth. I can't remember if it was called Luna Park then or if Luna Park was a subsequent incarnation. Anyway, they had a whole bunch of kind of dubious antiques that they would haul out onto the sidewalk in the warm weather. One of the waiters told me (quietly) not to even think about buying any of the furniture because it was getting beat to hell being moved around all the time. -
Yep, Luna Park. The enormous amount of wasted space was baffling. Until Ozzies came along and puzzled me further.
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germfree! wrote: Yep, Luna Park. The enormous amount of wasted space was baffling. Until Ozzies came along and puzzled me further.
Ozzie's doesn't pay anywhere near market rate for that space - they got a sweet longish term lease with help from the FAC some years back. -
germfree! wrote:
Haaaa...What's even worse is sometimes the broken down car gets used as a halfassed storage facility...filled up with pathetic junk that just rots in the sun, year after year. Thieves won't even steal it.The "locals" on my block have way more cars than the newcomers -- they tend to have multiple cars per household, while the newer people usually just have one car or none.
Yes! More irrefutable evidence! There's a guy across from me that has lived in the PS, like, FOREVER (don't contradict me), who owns 3 crappy BMWs, none of which work, plus a family van for actual vehicular travel. He spends his life tinkering with his darling, impotent, cars and having his mates push them from one side of the street to the other on alt. parking days.
Hate him. -
in the 2 ish blocks i reference,
there are many bars restaurants where there used to be one.
and plenty of people DRIVE to them. if no one was driving to them then why did cucina used to have BOTH a parking lot AND cordon off parts of carroll street as if it were their private property ?
why look at actual facts ?
rather than believe a census report that shows the population actually went DOWN from 80 - 2000 and was in the 62000 ballpark back then,
lets just accept that believe that 50000 mommies have suddenly moved here - then add 1 kid per mommy otherwise she aint a mommy right ? and figure only 50% have a "domestic partner" be it male female married or no hmmm thats 125,000 more people !
yah that MUST be it
lets not forget that the moon is made of swiss cheese and that all those scientists and astronauts are just full of shit. they are just trying to prevent a crash in the dairy prices
if i type it in bold caps 4 times and call you a geek at the end does that make it true ?
thanks for the laugh. -
germfree! wrote:
I know the guy, I know the cars - Carroll 5th/6th right? There must be some sentimental reason for why he's keeping those crappy-ass BMWs parked. I've NEVER seen him drive them anywhere. They just sit and rot on street. Weird.
Yes! More irrefutable evidence! There's a guy across from me that has lived in the PS, like, FOREVER (don't contradict me), who owns 3 crappy BMWs, none of which work, plus a family van for actual vehicular travel. He spends his life tinkering with his darling, impotent, cars and having his mates push them from one side of the street to the other on alt. parking days.
Hate him. -
germfree! wrote:
Oh my god, I just noticed this. I am convinced I had an encounter with a ghost in Moutarde, and my husband has always scoffed at me, but now I have proof that there are probably ghosts there, ha.
Irrelevant, and correct me if I'm wrong. Moutarde was the steakhouse Mike and Tony's (allied with Cucina), and before that the funeral home. -
Flailey wrote:
"You people?" What do you mean by that? :twisted:
You people all think the same way, are you this clueless? -
Flailey wrote:
Gotta agree with this, my parents had two cars when I was growing up, which was UNHEARD OF back in the day. Most of my friends' families didn't even have one, had to constantly hear shit about me being 'rich' despite the fact that our 'second car' was a rusted-out Plymouth.
1) The demographics have become skewed more towards families with higher incomes over the past 15 years. The number of residents has risen overall, and with this wealth and gentrification has come a reduction in crime, specifically car thefts and break ins.
When I got my first car in the mid-90's, it wasn't uncommon for me to roll up to 13st b/w 8th and 9th around noontime and find half the block empty.
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