Yabbas now a Pet Store + whether you should adopt instead
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I don't know whats worst having dogs in the middle of the street in cages, on public property, while people and other dogs passing and spreading germs and maybe touching dogs with unknown illness (if any ), sitting in the hot blistering sun , and not knowing where they came from. or buying a dog with official paper , shots , in a room temperature store with unlimited supplies of food and constant check up on dog by vet to make sure these dogs are healthy and information on the dogs part and where it came from . . . . . . . . . mmh i wonder who whats worst ??
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what's worse: a store that appears to do all the things you mention, but really doesn't do them at all.
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where you be at wrote: constant check up on dog by vet to make sure these dogs are healthy
forgive my skepticism, but if this were actually true then A) a vet would be making "constant" house calls or
an employee would be "constantly" shuttling the puppies from the store to the clinic.
either way, we're talking about hundreds of dollars in vet care costs, what with the labwork and all (fecals, bloodwork, urinalysis. you know, standard preventative care stuff), probably more than what the store owner paid for the pups to begin with. if the answer is A, the cost of "constant" house calls becomes astronomical. if the answer is B, the owner is also losing potential sales during the time the pup is "constantly" out of the store and in the vet's office. where's the profit in that, eh?
pooh. -
wow i love how you guys think, well every one is entitled to there own pinions and thoughts ..
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where you be at wrote: wow i love how you guys think, well every one is entitled to there own pinions and thoughts ..
you come in out of nowhere, these are your first posts. we don't know you, and you automatically arrive knowing all the intimate details about this pet store.
how do you know these details? you don't tell us. we ask how the store can do what it does, you get snappish.
are you involved in the store? how do you know so much about it? if you're involved with animals at all, you likely know the problems with puppy/kitten mills, so wouldn't you want to do everything you could to sound professional and honorable about this business you seem to be protecting?
finally, you write like a 12-year old. bad grammar, funky punctuation. how can we take you seriously if you throw out erroneous facts chock full of typos and illiterate sentences.
wouldn't you be dubious if the shoes were on the other feet? -
Subject: have you taken a good look?
Pup slope appears to be a spacious clean store. The window display pen is roomy and the large play area in the rear is as comfortable as your own living room. However, the afternoon sun shines unrelentingly into every window on that side of the street. Everyone should keep an eye out to make sure any puppy in the window has sufficient shade and water.
There seems to be a basement area to the back (grooming? iso? pure speculation at this time) that is not so nicely dressed up. Hopefully any puppies and kittens that would need to be isolated would not be kept in the same area as a grooming facility.
Interestingly enough, the five little dogs that were priviledged to run in the exercise area were ALL property of the staff. Are these pets caged as the livestock gets exercised? Do they "socialize" with the puppies? Is contamination from what their pets may pick up from the outside and pass on to pups that may not be fully vaccinated a concern? :-k
Once again, people, there is a pet adoption event at the Park Slope YMCA this Saturday from 11:30am til 4:00pm. The location is 9th street between 5av and 6av. It's near where the old aquarium shop was.
SPREAD THE WORD and STAY DILIGENT ALL!
PS- the dude from that aquarium shop has a pet supply only shop on Union over by Columbia st. He doesn't even sell fish any more. -
Its because i work in pet shop. one thats located in Manhattan. I think its not fair bashing on a store that just opened up trying to make business and here comes along the angry old mob pissed off at everything that is not the usual walk in the park to them . its like I'm pretty sure the people here just come and start witting things that is not even true. I am just voicing my opinion and being helping out the store and trying to spread some facts not fiction. and beside i myself did not say adoption is bad. a few post ago i said that its okay to go to a animal rescue and get a dog . i never said that theres nothing wrong about that. EVERY ONE has a right to live and do what ever they want.
Ps i don't care about my grammar. i know i cant write well so i really don't care -
"You wouldn't know her. She lives in Canada." :roll: :P
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know who ??
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where you be at wrote: know who ??
Priceless. -
where you be at wrote: Its because i work in pet shop. one thats located in Manhattan. I think its not fair bashing on a store that just opened up trying to make business and here comes along the angry old mob pissed off at everything that is not the usual walk in the park to them . its like I'm pretty sure the people here just come and start witting things that is not even true. I am just voicing my opinion and being helping out the store and trying to spread some facts not fiction. and beside i myself did not say adoption is bad. a few post ago i said that its okay to go to a animal rescue and get a dog . i never said that theres nothing wrong about that. EVERY ONE has a right to live and do what ever they want.
first of all, most of us have been conversing for a fair amount of time. please trust me when i tell you that if one of us were writing things that weren't true the rest of us would be all over them.
Ps i don't care about my grammar. i know i cant write well so i really don't care
you may work in a pet store, but that doesn't mean that you know how this new store operates down to the tiniest detail. how can you know about all of their practices without having part in the process.
it's nice that you support animal rescue. but doing so and then selling animals makes that pretty paradoxical. i believe the AKC will tell you to buy directly from reputable breeders, not pet stores. there are too many pets that need adoption because of breeding mills so while these animals need homes, by not adopting them it sends a clear message that they can't be sold. and when a store has a product that can't be sold, it stops carrying it. and so on.
finally, i mentioned your grammar and writing because that was one of the first personal attacks you made at one of us. -
But if Britney Spears does it, how bad can it be? :?
Spears Upsets Humane Society
Britney Spears has come under fire from an animal rights group in Los Angeles after she chose to buy a new $3,000 dog from a pet store.
The Humane Society U.S. officials claim the pop superstar should have spent more time picking her pet.
Spokeswoman Stephanie Shain tells "Entertainment Tonight," "Choosing a dog is a major lifestyle decision that should not be taken lightly.
"We suggest that people take time to choose a member of their family, and to be sure they are working with a reputable breeder. ... Ms. Spears is setting a damaging example to the public.
"Most dogs sold in pet stores come from puppy mills -- factorylike facilities, churning out purebred and 'designer' puppies in large numbers. Puppy mills look only to make a profit; commonly disregard the dog's physical and emotional health."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=18643 -
where you be at wrote: I think its not fair bashing on a store that just opened up trying to make business and here comes along the angry old mob pissed off at everything that is not the usual walk in the park to them
that doesn't even make sense. businesses should be a "walk in the park" for their customers. the whole point of a business is to anticipate (or create) the needs and desires of its customer base. why would people spend money in a place that doesn't please them? shopping is not a charitable act.where you be at wrote: its like I'm pretty sure the people here just come and start witting things that is not even true. I am just voicing my opinion and being helping out the store and trying to spread some facts not fiction
several of the people posting here have been to the store and talked to the owner. i can't imagine how you can be "pretty sure" they are "witting things that it not even true" or even which facts to spread if your only source of information is an unrelated pet store in manhattan. if you have factual information about this particular pet store -- perhaps based on your working there? just an idea -- then by all means, share it. -
I think its not fair bashing on a store that just opened up trying to make business and here comes along the angry old mob pissed off at everything that is not the usual walk in the park to them .
Personally, I am not pissed off because "everything is not the usual walk in the park to [me]" (whatever that is supposed to mean). Nor do I think anyone expressing their distaste for Pup Slope and its kind of pet store has done or said anything that could possibly leave any reasonably intelligent person with the impression that any issue other than honest, heartfelt and genuine concern for animal safety and welfare is motivating the critical statements made about Pup Slope (which, on the whole and at any rate much moreso than Where You Be At's, have been respectful, considerate, mature and appropriately confined to the important issues at hand rather than rhetorical games, lies and personal attacks).
I, too, noted the summer sun blazing into those windows and wondered whether overheat and dehydration might be an issue for the pups displayed there. I was expressly told at the time I visited that the pups in the front window were for sale (as opposed to owned by the staff).
I wholeheartedly support an adoption event, and while I cannot volunteer to attend and help out because of a prior family committment out of town, I'd be happy to make a donation as well as solicit the support of friends and family. -
Here's a thought. It's a shame that the store couldn't foster a few pups and kittens a week in a rotating schedule for adoption. Maybe over the weekends only
Of course, that brings you to the fact that they'd be in that store and under the care of the owner with the bad temper.
I know it isn't really feasible on many levels, but under the correct circumstances with the right situation...
Of course they couldn't allow any to leave the store without the foster parent doing the interview and home check.
You see cats up for adoption all the time at Petco or Petsmart and they are very well cared for (unfortunately caged as well, but sometimes in large connected cages.) And the adoption groups are the ones in charge of their care and placement.
I know this whole relationship with the owner started very poorly, but in another situation it may be something that could help everyone.
And when someone comes in to adopt (after the whole process is done) they'd most likely purchase their supplies, at least to start, at the store location.
But this may not be the correct location to start something like this. And I know there are many negatives to this thought, but it's just a thought.
You know what? Nevermind, just thinking out loud -
brooklynpotter wrote: fFinally, you write like a 12-year old, using bad poor grammar, and funky [WC?] punctuation.
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qtrain wrote: [quote=brooklynpotter]fFinally, you write like a 12-year old, using bad poor grammar, and funky [WC?] punctuation.
do you feel better about yourself now? -
where you be at wrote: Its because i work in pet shop. one thats located in Manhattan. I think its not fair bashing on a store that just opened up trying to make business and here comes along the angry old mob pissed off at everything that is not the usual walk in the park to them . its like I'm pretty sure the people here just come and start witting things that is not even true. I am just voicing my opinion and being helping out the store and trying to spread some facts not fiction. and beside i myself did not say adoption is bad. a few post ago i said that its okay to go to a animal rescue and get a dog . i never said that theres nothing wrong about that. EVERY ONE has a right to live and do what ever they want.
Ps i don't care about my grammar. i know i cant write well so i really don't care
$100. says this is the guy who threw me out after I tried to talk to him in the store.
Anything to avoid the real issue, which is: the puppies for sale, hey buddy? No-one has any problem with any other part of your business. -
brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=qtrain][quote=brooklynpotter]fFinally, you write like a 12-year old, using bad poor grammar, and funky [WC?] punctuation.
do you feel better about yourself now?
A little. That was for the memory of my dear Mrs. Watts. -
obviously a grade school teacher?
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As I mentioned upthread, I worked at a pet store for a while, many years ago. It was my first job right after graduating from college, when I couldn't find anything in my degree field.
My boss told all the employees that the puppies at our store didn't come from puppy mills, and carefully instructed us about what to say to customers about the puppies we sold and how to answer any questions about puppy mills. At the time, I bought what our boss told us hook, line, and sinker, and I thoroughly believed that what I was telling the customers was true.
Just sayin'.
The Humane Society of the U.S. and the ASPCA both oppose buying puppies from pet stores (apologies if any of these are links that have already been posted):
http://www.stoppuppymills.org/
http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_adoption_information/buying_a_puppy/
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/get_the_facts_on_puppy_mills/index.html
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cruelty_puppymills
And a couple other links those of you who are really interested in this may want to check out:
http://www.petstoreabuse.com/
http://www.nopuppymills.com/
http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/ -
Subject: citysearch.com reviews
Does anyone know for sure that Pup Slope is affiliated with Groom O Rama on 6av in Manhattan? -
If the owner of the shop is reading this post, then maybe he'll see how to change his business model to satisfy those who would be using his store.
Perhaps he could try agreeing to the pet adoptions outside his shop to start. They really don't conflict with what he's doing inside and I'm going to guess that there'll be adult dogs and cats to be adopted instead of puppies and kittens. Then hopefully, after whatever puppies he has are sold, he can stop selling animals and help with the adoptions of others who need homes.
Maybe he freaked out because he already had most of his money invested into this store and then realized that people in the neighborhood wouldn't support it (after being notified or reading the posts of that morning) and when sje came in to ask questions (which she had every right to) he panicked and became arrogant out of fear (like the fear biting the german shepherds do.)
Either way, if you're reading this.... there are other ways to make this situation a positive one and still make money.
If the patrons don't come to buy, the business won't florish.
It's not too late. :-' -
tobie, who mentioned Groom A Rama? I can't find anything on this thread about it, did I miss something?
dakotas way, the owner really should have done some research about the neighborhood before he opened. If he had, he would have found that not many people would be happy about a place selling puppies. I have no sympathy for someone who doesn't think before he acts. And if he was smart he could salvage his reputation by doing what you said. By sponsoring adoptions his business would benefit from the people adopting. Naturally, they would want to support the business who helped them find a pet. Unfortunately, I have the feeling that someone who treated sje the way he did isn't one to compromise.
And sje, I have to commend you on approaching this guy the way you did. You were polite and only concerned for the welfare of the animals. He really shot himself in the foot treating you like that. I was upset about the fact he was selling puppies but after reading your account of his behavior, I'm now adamant about getting the word out. -
there's a whole post about this over at "only the blog knows brooklyn", smartmom's rag
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what to do? some ideas:
http://www.geocities.com/lorayen/PuppyMills2.html
which says -
"When you see a pet shop selling dogs or cats, do some
research. Notify the pet stores and their breeder/suppliers of the
law. Give them a short amount of time to comply and then
report them! Let the appropriate breed club know so they can
add their voice to the chorus." -
caseopele- heard from a friend who is familiar with Groom O rama
that they were exploring a store front on Flatbush.
"where you be at" works (worked?) in a shop in Manhattan.
Coincidence?
bunnycup- pups in the hot window are merchandise, dogs in comfy
"livingroom" are property of staff.
Food for thought.
An owner operated store will be better at properly situating their animals than one that hires commissioned sales staff. Salespeople just want their commission right now before their colleague gets it later.
Adoptions also equal profits since these animals also need all the day to day stuff that pets do.
A business owner should know that a happy costumer is a return customer is referrals for future customers.
A pet is a life brought into others' lives and should NEVER be an impulsive decission. A store selling dogs and cats in a family neighborhood such as ours should approach their business like they expect to be here in ten-twenty years. They should expect to see each of their alumnae often, greet them by name, help them over bumps in the road and watch them grow old with the same family. -
caseopele- I agree with you completely.
Thought I'd throw those suggestions above in a vain attempt in case he was reading this thread.
And I also agree that looking at how he dealt with sje really makes me not want him to have anything to do with animals, especially of the littlest sort. -
Here's the post on "Only The Blog Knows Brooklyn"
http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/only_the_blog_knows_brook/2007/07/problem-with-pe.html
I'm so glad she posted about this, everyone in the neighborhood reads her blog! Thank you so much, Smartmom! -
is there a protest happening for this on saturday?
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