Is it the new yellow fever?
You gotta love media fear and hype. Mexico and India has more food that is refused by FDA.
than china does. It must be yellow fever! hell even the Dominican republic a smaller country has almost about the same amount of refusals than china does.
China Not Sole Source of Dubious Food
By ANDREW MARTIN and GRIFF PALMER
Published: July 12, 2007
Black pepper with salmonella from India. Crabmeat from Mexico that is too filthy to eat. Candy from Denmark that is mislabeled.
At a time when Chinese imports are under fire for being contaminated or defective, federal records suggest that China is not the only country that has problems with its exports.
In fact, federal inspectors have stopped more food shipments from India and Mexico in the last year than they have from China, an analysis of data maintained by the Food and Drug Administration shows.
China has had much-publicized problems with contaminated seafood — including a temporary ban late last month on imports of five species of farm-raised seafood from China — but federal inspectors refused produce from the Dominican Republic and candy from Denmark more often.
For instance, produce from the Dominican Republic was stopped 817 times last year, usually for containing traces of illegal pesticides. Candy from Denmark was impounded 520 times.
By comparison, Chinese seafood was stopped at the border 391 times during the last year.
“The reality is, this is not a single-country issue at all,†said Carl R. Nielsen, who resigned from the Food and Drug Administration in 2005, after 28 years. His last job was director of the division of import operations and policy in the agency’s Office of Regulatory Affairs. “What we are experiencing is massive globalization,†he said.
The F.D.A. database does not necessarily capture a full and accurate picture of product quality from other countries. For one thing, only one year of data is available on the agency’s Web site, and F.D.A. officials declined to provide more data without a formal Freedom of Information request, a process that can take months, if not years.
In addition, the F.D.A. inspects only about 1 percent of the imports that fall under its jurisdiction. So the agency may miss many of the products that are contaminated or defective. The F.D.A. database also fails to disclose the quantity of products that are refused, so it is impossible to know whether just a box of cucumbers was refused or a shipload.
In cases of recurrent problems, the F.D.A. may issue an import alert, which leads to additional scrutiny at the border. Last month, for instance, the F.D.A. issued not only the import alert for the Chinese fish, but also import alerts for Mexican cantaloupes and basmati rice from India, among others.
Rafael Laveaga, a spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, said the number of food safety problems from Mexican imports was minuscule given the huge volume of trade. He said that Mexican food products were scrutinized more thoroughly since they arrived by road transit, rather than by ship or airplane.
“The proactive and professional relationship that exists between Mexican authorities and the F.D.A. has always helped to expeditiously mitigate and control any potential risks,†he said.
Banarshi Harrison, minister of commerce at the embassy of India, said India had recently strengthened its food safety laws. He said contamination of spices and pickles might occur on occasion because they were processed by many small manufacturers.
“There is really no evidence of a systematic problem for any particular product,†he said.
Food safety officials from the Dominican Republic and Denmark could not be located for comment.
Despite the shortcomings with the F.D.A. database of import refusals, the available information makes clear that quality problems extend well beyond China, where officials recently admitted that nearly 20 percent of the country’s products are substandard or tainted.
Critics say the F.D.A. has not changed to deal with the flood of imports in the last decade, as trade agreements have opened up borders to products from across the globe.
The United States imported $1.86 trillion in merchandise last year, compared with $1.14 trillion in 2001, a 63 percent increase, according to Commerce Department records.
An F.D.A. plan to revamp the way it inspects imports, called the Import Strategic Plan, was completed in 2003, but shelved because of budgetary constraints, several former F.D.A. officials said. The plan would have focused more on finding potential risks in the food supply using vast quantities of information — from inspectors and manufacturers to foreign governments and consumers — to aim at problem imports.
“It basically got deep-sixed,†said William Hubbard, a former F.D.A. associate commissioner who resigned in 2005 and is now a part of a coalition that is advocating for more financing for the agency. “There was no capacity to cover as imports went up,†he said.
Noting that the number of import shipments has vastly increased in the last 15 years, he said: “That’s a huge, huge increase and they’ve lost people. These guys are going to war without enough troops. They don’t even have guns.â€
Nancy M. Childs, a professor of food marketing at St. Joseph University in Philadelphia, said the quality problems were an inevitable result of companies pursuing the cheapest possible products.
“As long as we are pushing for the lowest price all the time, driving our supply chain, you get more efficient,†she said. “But at a certain point there is no more efficiency and you sacrifice quality.â€
Ms. Childs added that countries that produce the cheapest products often have little regulation and lackluster enforcement.
Dr. David Acheson, the F.D.A.’s assistant commissioner for food protection, agreed that the agency’s system for reviewing imports was antiquated and needed to be changed. He said that the F.D.A. should revise its domestic food safety strategy to focus more on prevention rather than simply reacting to crises.
The agency, he said, was currently working on a plan to revise how it monitored food safety, both for domestic food and imported, which should be released in the fall. The plan will depend on the F.D.A. working with foreign governments and American companies to identify potential risks to the food supply before they reach ports in the United States.
“Fundamentally, starting at the border is not where we need to be,†he said.
The F.D.A. inspects foreign shipments of food, drugs, cosmetics, medical devices, animal drugs and some electronic devices.
From July 2006 through June of this year, agency inspectors stopped 2,723 shipments of all such items from China, followed closely by India, 2,620; Mexico, 1,876; and the Dominican Republic, 887.
But China sends more products into the United States than any of those countries, at least in terms of the dollar value. In 2006, for instance, China shipped $288 billion in merchandise to the United States, compared with $198 billion from Mexico; $22 billion from India; and $5.3 billion from the Dominican Republic, records show.
Salmonella was the top reason that food was rejected from India, and it was found in products like black pepper, coriander powder and shrimp. “Filthy†was the primary reason food was stopped from Mexico, and the rejections included lollipops, crabmeat and dried chili.
Products from the Dominican Republic were mostly stopped because of pesticides.
than china does. It must be yellow fever! hell even the Dominican republic a smaller country has almost about the same amount of refusals than china does.
China Not Sole Source of Dubious Food
By ANDREW MARTIN and GRIFF PALMER
Published: July 12, 2007
Black pepper with salmonella from India. Crabmeat from Mexico that is too filthy to eat. Candy from Denmark that is mislabeled.
At a time when Chinese imports are under fire for being contaminated or defective, federal records suggest that China is not the only country that has problems with its exports.
In fact, federal inspectors have stopped more food shipments from India and Mexico in the last year than they have from China, an analysis of data maintained by the Food and Drug Administration shows.
China has had much-publicized problems with contaminated seafood — including a temporary ban late last month on imports of five species of farm-raised seafood from China — but federal inspectors refused produce from the Dominican Republic and candy from Denmark more often.
For instance, produce from the Dominican Republic was stopped 817 times last year, usually for containing traces of illegal pesticides. Candy from Denmark was impounded 520 times.
By comparison, Chinese seafood was stopped at the border 391 times during the last year.
“The reality is, this is not a single-country issue at all,†said Carl R. Nielsen, who resigned from the Food and Drug Administration in 2005, after 28 years. His last job was director of the division of import operations and policy in the agency’s Office of Regulatory Affairs. “What we are experiencing is massive globalization,†he said.
The F.D.A. database does not necessarily capture a full and accurate picture of product quality from other countries. For one thing, only one year of data is available on the agency’s Web site, and F.D.A. officials declined to provide more data without a formal Freedom of Information request, a process that can take months, if not years.
In addition, the F.D.A. inspects only about 1 percent of the imports that fall under its jurisdiction. So the agency may miss many of the products that are contaminated or defective. The F.D.A. database also fails to disclose the quantity of products that are refused, so it is impossible to know whether just a box of cucumbers was refused or a shipload.
In cases of recurrent problems, the F.D.A. may issue an import alert, which leads to additional scrutiny at the border. Last month, for instance, the F.D.A. issued not only the import alert for the Chinese fish, but also import alerts for Mexican cantaloupes and basmati rice from India, among others.
Rafael Laveaga, a spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, said the number of food safety problems from Mexican imports was minuscule given the huge volume of trade. He said that Mexican food products were scrutinized more thoroughly since they arrived by road transit, rather than by ship or airplane.
“The proactive and professional relationship that exists between Mexican authorities and the F.D.A. has always helped to expeditiously mitigate and control any potential risks,†he said.
Banarshi Harrison, minister of commerce at the embassy of India, said India had recently strengthened its food safety laws. He said contamination of spices and pickles might occur on occasion because they were processed by many small manufacturers.
“There is really no evidence of a systematic problem for any particular product,†he said.
Food safety officials from the Dominican Republic and Denmark could not be located for comment.
Despite the shortcomings with the F.D.A. database of import refusals, the available information makes clear that quality problems extend well beyond China, where officials recently admitted that nearly 20 percent of the country’s products are substandard or tainted.
Critics say the F.D.A. has not changed to deal with the flood of imports in the last decade, as trade agreements have opened up borders to products from across the globe.
The United States imported $1.86 trillion in merchandise last year, compared with $1.14 trillion in 2001, a 63 percent increase, according to Commerce Department records.
An F.D.A. plan to revamp the way it inspects imports, called the Import Strategic Plan, was completed in 2003, but shelved because of budgetary constraints, several former F.D.A. officials said. The plan would have focused more on finding potential risks in the food supply using vast quantities of information — from inspectors and manufacturers to foreign governments and consumers — to aim at problem imports.
“It basically got deep-sixed,†said William Hubbard, a former F.D.A. associate commissioner who resigned in 2005 and is now a part of a coalition that is advocating for more financing for the agency. “There was no capacity to cover as imports went up,†he said.
Noting that the number of import shipments has vastly increased in the last 15 years, he said: “That’s a huge, huge increase and they’ve lost people. These guys are going to war without enough troops. They don’t even have guns.â€
Nancy M. Childs, a professor of food marketing at St. Joseph University in Philadelphia, said the quality problems were an inevitable result of companies pursuing the cheapest possible products.
“As long as we are pushing for the lowest price all the time, driving our supply chain, you get more efficient,†she said. “But at a certain point there is no more efficiency and you sacrifice quality.â€
Ms. Childs added that countries that produce the cheapest products often have little regulation and lackluster enforcement.
Dr. David Acheson, the F.D.A.’s assistant commissioner for food protection, agreed that the agency’s system for reviewing imports was antiquated and needed to be changed. He said that the F.D.A. should revise its domestic food safety strategy to focus more on prevention rather than simply reacting to crises.
The agency, he said, was currently working on a plan to revise how it monitored food safety, both for domestic food and imported, which should be released in the fall. The plan will depend on the F.D.A. working with foreign governments and American companies to identify potential risks to the food supply before they reach ports in the United States.
“Fundamentally, starting at the border is not where we need to be,†he said.
The F.D.A. inspects foreign shipments of food, drugs, cosmetics, medical devices, animal drugs and some electronic devices.
From July 2006 through June of this year, agency inspectors stopped 2,723 shipments of all such items from China, followed closely by India, 2,620; Mexico, 1,876; and the Dominican Republic, 887.
But China sends more products into the United States than any of those countries, at least in terms of the dollar value. In 2006, for instance, China shipped $288 billion in merchandise to the United States, compared with $198 billion from Mexico; $22 billion from India; and $5.3 billion from the Dominican Republic, records show.
Salmonella was the top reason that food was rejected from India, and it was found in products like black pepper, coriander powder and shrimp. “Filthy†was the primary reason food was stopped from Mexico, and the rejections included lollipops, crabmeat and dried chili.
Products from the Dominican Republic were mostly stopped because of pesticides.
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china, india, dominican republic who gives a shit where it's coming from. let's just stop importing it and start supporting our own farmers and businesses.
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lmboogie wrote: china, india, dominican republic who gives a shit where it's coming from. let's just stop importing it and start supporting our own farmers and businesses.
Sure, if you'd like to turn back the clock half a century or more, for us and for them. Your standard of living and the comparatively wealthy and secure times we are enjoying are substantially the result of globalization and a levelling global marketplace for goods and labor. -
I can't even imagine an America where China is not part of the import equation. I'd have nothing to wear, drive, eat or sleep on...
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I can imagine it: I've seen documentaries of the American Civil War.
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doctorj wrote: I can imagine it: I've seen documentaries of the American Civil War.
you lost me, doc. -
yes i did make a huge sweeping statement to stop all imports and shoudl have taken the time out to explain.
first of all, our government can't be trusted to tell us the truth. how many pets died before we were told the pet food was tainted? toothpaste? pirates booty? i'm sure there's more. if you can't trust the government then stop eating imported food and try buying from local farmers as much as possible.
china's top drug regulator was just sentenced to death for accepting bribes, china's health ministry reported 34,000 food related illnesses in 2005. china doesn't have a recall system. but hey if my pocket is getting fatter then keep the imports coming. a few deaths here and there and hundreds getting sick from imported food, no problem.
by the way... some would agrue just how beneficial globalization has been for both us and them. -
shishkab wrote: [quote=doctorj]I can imagine it: I've seen documentaries of the American Civil War.
you lost me, doc.
i.e., we would be phucked circa 1864 style.
interesting site with graphics:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/index.html
imports comparison:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/results.php
clothing:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/display.php?selected=84
electronics:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/display.php?selected=90
toys:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/display.php?selected=58
Take them away...its 1864 again.
I challenge you to get rid of everything in your home labels "made in china" for 1 month. It would be interesting. -
I challenge you to get rid of everything in your home labels "made in china" for 1 month. It would be interesting.quote]
could you please go back and read what i wrote? i said nothing about electronics, toys, etc. i was referring to food. -
wow, SOE. that's some great stuff, thanks!
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[quote="lmboogie"]
I challenge you to get rid of everything in your home labels "made in china" for 1 month. It would be interesting.quote]
Understood. but I expanded the conversation a little ( its what happens on these boards) to include other imports as well. It wasn't meant as a jab at you or anything and the challenge was open to anyone - not you specifically.
could you please go back and read what i wrote? i said nothing about electronics, toys, etc. i was referring to food.
but here is food too:
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/results.php
interestingly, the US and Europe give a great deal in food to other countries in aid relative to other nations....
http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/display.php?selected=363 -
lmboogie wrote: yes i did make a huge sweeping statement to stop all imports and shoudl have taken the time out to explain.
This is such wrong-headed and parochial thinking I barely know where to begin.
first of all, our government can't be trusted to tell us the truth. how many pets died before we were told the pet food was tainted? toothpaste? pirates booty? i'm sure there's more. if you can't trust the government then stop eating imported food and try buying from local farmers as much as possible.
china's top drug regulator was just sentenced to death for accepting bribes, china's health ministry reported 34,000 food related illnesses in 2005. china doesn't have a recall system. but hey if my pocket is getting fatter then keep the imports coming. a few deaths here and there and hundreds getting sick from imported food, no problem.
by the way... some would agrue just how beneficial globalization has been for both us and them.
Why is food such a special case, if you think it's ok to import other products? If you don't trust your government to maintain standards, why should you trust a farmer in Ohio more than a farmer in e.g. Argentina or Bulgaria? What is it about China in particular you don't like, when they aren't the largest foreign source of food in this country, and that at any rate food imports are only about 11% of what we eat? What's more, USA is a net food exporter; you want to stop the trade and harm US farmers more than foreign farmers, as well as US consumers? Given that there are 4 times as many Chinese as Americans, and a lot of food poisoning in this country (76 million cases per year and 5200 deaths!), are you sure that 34000 you mention is worse than here? Worse than in other countries with the same standard of living as China? Leaving aside for a moment the temporary lack of a carbon tax on transport, how can I justify spending more on a given product to enrich some comfortable guy in Connecticut, when by buying a cheaper import I can be sure I'm helping a larger number of people in the developing world, and thus increasing the security of that country and this one without the need for inefficient foreign aid? Why should I think of US farmers as especially virtuous and worthy of protection, compared with all other forms of human endeavor? And as far as safety goes, a few high profile cases does not make a trend. If higher standards and more scientific testing are needed, for both domestic and internationally sourced produce, then they'll be put in place, as some of your legislators are currently proposing.
Some people will argue all kinds of ridiculous things but when the numbers don't back them up, we don't have to listen to them. -
sorry, einstein, didn't mean to be wrong and parochial at the same time.
Why is food such a special case
because i'm ingesting it, duh, like putting it into my body. too sophmoric for you?
i said nothing about our government maintaining standards. i did say that our government can't be trusted to tell us the truth.What is it about China in particular you don't like
nothing! where are you getting this from? i used china as an example because their products have recently been in the news. had we received toothpaste with antifreeze and killer pet food from Kazakhstan
then that's the example i would have used.If higher standards and more scientific testing are needed, for both domestic and internationally sourced produce, then they'll be put in place, as some of your legislators are currently proposing
the problem is the standards, testing and american oversight should be done first before the products are imported.
i can't argue numbers, don't have time to research. the 34000 number i gave was from an msnbc story so yeah it's probably full of shit.
10 dogs died instead of 30, i don't know but 1 seems enough for me.
next time i buy a pair of $130 nike sneakers, i'll be sure to think how much i'm helping that 10 year old indonisian boy. phew... so glad i was able to uplift him and increase his standard of living. -
FWIW (sidebar), the veterinary community is reeling from the tainted pet food. all across the country veterinary professionals are second-guessing themselves -- how many deaths and subsequent diagnoses were due to tainted food and not kidney and/or liver problems? i'm afraid we'll never know, considering most carcasses are incineranted. guesstimates are placing deaths in the tens of thousands.
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guesstimates are placing deaths in the tens of thousands.
i didn't even realize the numbers were that high. that's terrible, i hope they figure out a way to prevent this from happening again. -
Subject: The Toys
Looks like the issue of Chinese imports will not go away.
The toy recall ,and now possibly bibs too, is raising some huge concerns here and abroad.
We have sold our souls to China and there really is nothing we can do about it now.
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