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Park Slope Pigeon-Killing Eight Year Old — Brooklynian

Park Slope Pigeon-Killing Eight Year Old

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edited November -1 in Park Slope
You simply cannot make this shit up....
http://gowanuslounge.blogspot.com/2007/07/you-think-youve-got-it-bad-park-slope.html

Mod note: Edited to provide a direct link to the blog post in question, so you don't have to go searching around the site to find it.
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  • spoil kids. care taker funny word for lazy ass parents.
  • sounds like a future tweens leader in the making. Imagine being able to break the neck of a poor pidgeon and not really have to be reprimanded or held accountable in any way. I'd have to guess that this lack of remorse or conscience could be a frightening view into the future of this sick child and incompentent adult with him.
    And why wouldn't the cops get out of the car (unless of course there was a real emergency) to use this opportunity to scare the daylights out of the kid for his cruel and I'm certain, illeagal behavior? Isn't it against the law to kill things??
    What's next...dogs, cats??? :cry:
  • That's disgusting. No 8 year old should hit any living being with a stick, that boy is old enough to know better. Either the kid is a psychopath or his parents aren't doing any actual parenting. I never hurt an animal when I was a kid, normal children don't do that. No one I know or have ever known has done anything like that as a kid. His parents need to wake up and try to fix the mess they've created. And the cops should have done something to make that kid realize his behavior was wrong even though his parents didn't. At this rate they'll be dealing with him in a few years anyway.
  • killing for fun is wrong. when i was 8 i killed birds for food. starving in a 3rd world country.
  • See that's the difference right there. It's one thing to have to kill animals for food, I'm a vegetarian and I realize that living where I live gives me that luxury. That kid did it for fun and that is seriously f*ucked up. armchair_warrior, I didn't mean that comment to encompass the whole world. It was only meant for kids living in countries where they don't have to kill for their dinner. Hope you didn't take it the wrong way. #-o
  • Hide your cats and dogs.
  • i agree with ya caseopele :).
  • he was three

    i don't think the concept of killing is fully realized at that age and...

    oh what the hell, i bet the brat was stone-cold drunk
  • Actually, the kid was 8 years old according to the Gowanus Lounge story.
  • i meant the pigeon
  • Wow, big suprise there, a kid with absentee yuppie parents being raised by a nanny growing up messed up in the head. There's a new one for you.

    At the same time don't quite see what the point was of calling the cops. :?:
  • Sounds fishy to me. I don't think I could kill a pigeon with a stick if I tried.
  • BrookSignal wrote: Sounds fishy to me. I don't think I could kill a pigeon with a stick if I tried.
    the story smacks of urban legend, i don't put much stock in the accuracy or truth of any blog reporting

    this is the part that blows the story "The cops were called and arrived over 10 min..."

    in the park?

    me thinks all ye been wumped
  • I saw two unattended boys younger than 11 throw large rocks at ducks in Prospect Park so hard I feared they'd knock a duck's heads off. I was disturbed. I told the boys to stop. I'm not sure if they started throwing the rocks again after I walked away. As young as the boys were, they seemed like sadists.
  • When I lived on 5th Ave I was right across the street from P.S. 51. One day while walking my dogs I saw some 8-10 year olds throwing rocks at a squirrel. The squirrel was clinging to the wire mesh on one of the school's windows. I was sick that day and my head was a bit fuzzy so I wasn't able to think about what I was saying. I told them something like, "Hey! You do not throw f*cking rocks at squirrels! Not cool, guys." I don't know whether it was the big dogs, the blue hair and tattoos, or the fact that an adult swore at them. But they stopped and a few other kids chimed in telling them it wasn't cool. Keep in mind this was during the kids lunch break, I wasn't aware they were allowed to run wild completely unsupervised while at school.
  • That's horrible, but I saw something far worse once.

    I saw someone actually feeding pigeons!
  • Yeah, that was me. I'll take a pigeon over a future sociopath any day.
  • i saw a homeless woman in central park eating a pigeon

    ruined my day
  • i believe jeffrey dahmer began his "career" by killing small animals.
  • Fast forward 20 years: "He was so quiet - you know, kept to himself. We always thought it was so nice that he still lived with his mother and helped out around the house."
  • Karl the Druid wrote: i saw a homeless woman in central park eating a pigeon

    ruined my day
    Now this smacks of "Urban legend."
  • Anything that comes out of the Park Slope Parent's mailing list has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Anyway it is a very big leap from wacking a pigeon with a stick and becoming a mass murderer.
  • veets wrote: [quote=Karl the Druid]i saw a homeless woman in central park eating a pigeon

    ruined my day
    Now this smacks of "Urban legend."

    In france they call it "squab", and I too am offended that it affordable for the homeless.
  • veets wrote: [quote=Karl the Druid]i saw a homeless woman in central park eating a pigeon

    ruined my day
    Now this smacks of "Urban legend."

    sadly its a true story

    1989 weekday around 2:00, lower central park on my lunch break

    i guess she was just plain crazy or desperate, but she did manage to cook it, still had most of its feathers

    must have been easier than catching a squirrel
  • Maybe the homeless person was a former Brit - pigeon pie is a frequently served dish in London...

    Ingredients:
    6 small pigeons, dressed, washed, pat dry
    1 teaspoon salt
    1/4 teaspoon pepper
    4 tablespoons butter
    2 tablespoons onion, chopped
    8 cloves
    1 carrot, sliced
    2 tablespoons parsley, chopped
    2 tablespoons celery, chopped
    2 tablespoons flour
    2 Pastry shells, uncooked

    Directions:
    Tie legs and wings of the pigeons together with string and close to the body. Sprinkle with the salt and pepper. Melt 2 Tbsp butter in pan and saute pigeons, searing them on both sides.

    Cover them with water. Add onion, carrot, parsley, cloves, and celery. Cover and simmer until tender. **About 3 hours**

    Remove the pigeons and debone the meat. Mix flour to a smooth paste with remaining butter. Add this mixture to the broth of the pigeons. Bring to a boil.

    Line a well greased pie pan with 1 shell. Add the meat and then the thickened broth. Cover it with the other pastry shell. Bake at 450* until nice and brown.

    This recipe for Pigeon Pie serves/makes 6
  • IF KILLING A BIRD WITH A STICK IS WRONG THEN I DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT!!

    EL FLAILEY
    KILLER OF BIRDS
    ALSO DISMEMBERER, SEASONER, AND GRILLER OF BIRDS
  • Subject: parents?do they exist when kids are around wildlife...?

    I was in Prospect Park over this weekend looking out for two 'dumped' ducks that are not supposed to be living in the 'wild.' What I witnessed of kids and the lack of any sense of knowing how to live among wildlife ... but more importantly, the parents lacking any sense of the idea of TALKING to to their children about how to LIVE and TREAT wildlife ... was shocking. i am still in shock over it. I saw kids riding their bikes recklessly into where the pigeons and canada geese and ducks were by the water. I saw kids throwing chunks of rolls in order to hit the ducks. I saw little kids run after a bunch of ducks across the lawn and one kept falling(the duck, not the kid). *I* was the one who had to point out to them that they should not be doing this. WHAT is wrong with the parents? It's a park. Yeah, I get that maybe they want them to be able to 'run free' but ... what a great opportunity to teach the children .... hey that bird is a baby and we need to keep some distance... hey those pigeons and ducks are just trying to survive. let's not run into them... hey that one doesn't seem to be doing so well, let's leave it alone. hey, maybe we should feed them bird seed or popcorn versus junk food... etc. etc.

    so to see this story about the eight year old killing the pigeon, which I don't have the heart to read right now, sort of doesn't surprise me.

    I don't know if it's parents being permissive or thinking that kids can do anything to wildlife but it's really messed up and horrifying. Spend about five hours over a few days by the lake at Prospect Park and you'll see it, full force.

    You'd never see kids running after a scared dog and getting away with it. Throwing rocks at dogs... why is it okay to do this to squirrels or ducks or pigeons...?
  • triebensee wrote: That's horrible, but I saw something far worse once.

    I saw someone actually feeding pigeons!
    If I see a kid doing something that bad, I'll beat the crap out of it.
  • While I agree that the kid's caretaker should have set him straight about the proper way to treat animals, I think it's a *huge* leap to assume that every kid who hurts or even kills an animal is a sociopath. Cruelty to animals used to be common - people paid to see dogfights, cockfights, and bearbaiting. They weren't murderers or mentally ill - they were normal people, and they found that fun. I think that kind of cruelty is appalling, and I'm glad our society doesn't condone it anymore, but let's not assume that because a boy hasn't really learned that yet, he's sure to be the next Jeffrey Dahmer.
  • Restless Native wrote: Wow, big suprise there, a kid with absentee yuppie parents being raised by a nanny growing up messed up in the head. There's a new one for you.

    At the same time don't quite see what the point was of calling the cops. :?:
    Hmmmm, blame the mother as usual for abnerrent male behavior.

    My next door neighbors are in hiding from their homicidal son who has told a mutual friend his plans to torture and then shoot his parents this month. The mother was a stay at home very devoted "soccer" mom. No abuse in the house. He is just a garden variety genetic sociopath. And yes, he did start out with cruelty to animals. So while a kid who is cruel to animals can grow up fine--it seems sociopaths usually start out being cruel to animals and help should be called in. With intervention, sociopaths may not be "cured" but a Virginia Tech massacre can be averted.
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