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Vin Rouge not so sweet — Brooklynian

Vin Rouge not so sweet

the chipster
the chipster
edited November -1 in Park Slope
Jeez, I hate to trash a place, really I do. I went there with my best intentions and an open mind. One bartender was super nice, helpful and sweet, and the other one ain't worth the space. Anyway, there is an AWFUL guy there, whether he was the manager or owner, I don't know. He would NOT SHUT UP!! He kept interrupting us and WOULD NOT TAKE A HINT that we DID NOT WANT TO INCLUDE HIM in our conversation. I literally turned my back on him to shut him out and he pompously continued on. Older guy, full of himself, and a real dick. There, I said it. :evil:

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  • karl the druid
    karl the druid
    so how was the food?
  • simian_sam
    simian_sam

    Subject: Re: Vin Rouge not so sweet

    The Chipster wrote: I literally turned my back on him to shut him out and he pompously continued on. Older guy, full of himself, and a real dick. There, I said it. :evil:
    Dude - I can understand if the guy talked too much. However, I know the guy about whom you speak and calling him a dick is wayyyy off base. Sure - he talks a lot and if you have no interest in hearing him talk I can see how that would be annoying. But every interaction I've ever had with him has been entirely pleasant and I would say he is incredibly nice. Maybe TOO nice - which was the problem in your case.

    And yeah - how was the wine and/or beer?

    edited to clarify: I do not know this guy personally, just from a couple visits to Vin Rouge and the wine shop across the street where he also works.
  • magic1
    magic1
    I think he's one of the co-owners. He's in there a lot, and I find him to be very friendly! If you don't want the bartender to talk to you, maybe you shouldn't sit at the bar?
  • the chipster
    the chipster
    I was there with a friend, having our own discussion. It was unbearably hot, and yes, we sat at the bar. It is, after all, a bar! There is always a certain amount of bar decorum we as adults understand. Being "nice" but having no social aptitude means he shouldn't be out front with the customers.
    Really, I did everything but tell him to F off and leave us alone.
    The wines are great, didn't eat, but went across to SIDECAR and had a much better (air conditioned) evening.
    Once again, if the thread goes in this direction (?) most of us know when people want to include or exclude us at a bar and vice versa.
  • gretch
    gretch
    Why don't you just tell the person to leave you alone because you want to enjoy private conversation, before you get so angly and post a note to say bad things about him?? Some people just do not take signs well. Does not mean they mean to do bad or don't leave you if they are told so nicely.
  • simian_sam
    simian_sam
    Again - "not good at reading body language" would be an ok description. So would "couldn't take a hint." But I don't think calling him a "real dick" is fair or accurate - unless you know that he was intentionally trying to annoy you & make you have a bad time. If he is co-owner, as someone mentioned upthread, I doubt that was his intent.
  • MOD
    MOD
    Well, lets get more details here. What exactly was he saying to you? Was he flirting? Was he being a narrow-minded right winger?

    I'm not taking any side, but I am curious as to what was actually said.
  • the chipster
    the chipster
    you get so angly and post a note to say bad things about him?? Some people just do not take signs well. Does not mean they mean to do bad or don't leave you if they are told so nicely.

    How silly, I don't mean to be so "angly" but whether he "mean to do bad or don't leave," I am an adult, and will choose my own company,thank you very much.
    In this situation,we were customers. Regardless of his intentions; our signals were clear. We were in deep conversation, and he kept interrupting. He should know better. I hope the other people there do.
    Nuff said.
  • bobo
    bobo

    Subject: Vin Rouge

    chipster-sounds like the evening just didn't gel for you. that's too bad but there are ways to criticize and ways not too. maybe you should have been more direct rather than hoping the bartender could read your signals. anyhow, i love vin rouge and i really appreciate that this guy knows his stuff. it's a nice place to hang out in in the hood, not to mention that the wines are really really good.

    i'd give it another chance.
  • the chipster
    the chipster
    Yeesh, it was NOT THE BARTENDER!! I made it clear that I really liked him. And if people can trash a place before it opens, I can criticize a place I've already been too! I'll critique things the way I want and praise them the way I want, thankyouverymuch. Why must I s-p-e-l-l- it out for you people?! I was as DIRECT as I could be without telling him to F OFF!Have you ever sat at a bar with a friend/date and had someone butt into your conversation? Have you then tried to politely tell them you're on a date or whatever and STILL they persist in pestering you? And at what point am I allowed to stop being "demure" and put this jerk in his place? (Which I didn't- I just left)
    . I refuse to smile when men say, "Hey baby, smile!" And I'm not going to start now.
    :twisted:
  • daver
    daver
    Er, hey baby, smile!

    I was on a bus earlier this week, and the bus driver came on and made an announcement after a few passengers became angry with him for various reasons.

    "Relax. It is only a bus ride. You can do it."

    Lol. I need to listen to the bus driver more.

    Anyhow, I get what you are saying. Based on the response you getting, though, perhaps the place is worth giving another chance?
  • shishkab
    shishkab
    i just went there as a start to my birthday celebrations and i've gotta say that i really enjoyed it. got cheese, olives, bread, fruit, and a delicious bottle of wine. loverly. thoroughly enjoyed the patio. (then i went to sidecar to eat a burger, which was great). happy day.
  • karl the druid
    karl the druid
    sidecar burgers rock
  • the chipster
    the chipster
    Yep, Sidecar was the antidote. Air Conditioned and easy breezy atmosphere. AND I actually smiled as soon as the bartender greeted us!
    *This visit was actually my second time to VinRouge, and although I didn't love it the 1st time; I thought my friend might like it as they're more into wine--me-I'm more into wind. Dutty wine.
  • bobo
    bobo
    i wound up at vin rouge again last nite with some friends and i had another really enjoyable evening. i gotta say, there are some great wines offered there and at really reasonable prices. i had this awesome italian wine from sicily, i think that's where it was from, and the staff couldn't be more helpful and enthusiastic. i'm convinced now that it's a great neighborhood hangout.
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