What happened at St. John's and Underhill?

When owners sell their buildings, tenants are usually compelled to leave with buyouts or threats of legal action. It is happenning in our neighborhood, Park Slope, and other nearby neighborhoods. Almost the entire block of St. Johns between Washington and Underhill was up for sale last year. It might even happen to me. I wouldn't be surprised.

Too add: the other thing that happens is that leases are often not renewed when new owners come in, particular those of the low rent variety. These owners aren't stupid. They know that a lot of the white people who move into neighborhoods like PH are scared to walk home alone at night, uncomfortable with the people hanging out on the blocks, and do what they have to do get certain people out of their buildings. kid rocks!!!!, you mean to tell me you haven't seen a striking change around her in the past couple of years?

The only real change I have noticed around here is that there are a lot of white people walking around and that there have been a few new business's opened on Underhill (black owned) I generally do not have occassion to walk over to Washington anymore since I use the GAP station and I'm over Tom's.

I still see the same people hanging out doing there thing on St.J's btwn wash/under. Seems sad to me that so many people I know on St.J's have lived there for 15/20+ years will be forced to roll out because they cannot afford to live there anymore. At least 1 of those buildings is turning into condos. My kids have known these people since they were born and I love the mix of economic class that meets up on that street. I don't mean that I like that they cannot afford a "nicer" place, but that we can see each other on the daily and feel like we still have community in common.

Some of those apartments are section 8 housing, that may take some time to get those people out. For the people who have to move out because of economics, where will they move off to? East new york? It's not a pleasant thing to think about moving people out so that the neighborhood can become wall to wall middle class white folk.

Gentrification again???

"A lot of people who post on DH buy pot from the same people involved in these incidents."

How do we know this exactly? I have had dreads for nearly the whole time I have lived here and never have I been offered any kind of deal. well, actually...last summer there was a kid handing out a delivery business card. Thought is was bogus though. But really, are you guys all buying off the street ? Is somebody missing there dealer or what?

kick rocks!!!! wrote: True. But I guess that I often find white middle class folk can be a bit irritating, annoying, whatever. I lived in the burbs w/them (I am one...struggling middle class). I'm ready to mix it up a bit and keep it moving.

Weird statement.

1) What makes you special and different than the white middle class people that annoy you?

-OR-

2) Could it be that something larger than their white, middle class-ness annoyed you? Like, oh, the fact that they bought in to the suburban lifestyle?

How do we know this exactly? I have had dreads for nearly the whole time I have lived here and never have I been offered any kind of deal. well, actually...last summer there was a kid handing out a delivery business card. Thought is was bogus though. But really, are you guys all buying off the street ? Is somebody missing there dealer or what?

I know this because I know white and Black (middle class) people who live in this neighborhood who buy from the cats you see chilling around this area. I don't know what your locks have to do with anything. It basically comes down to how many people one befriends in this neighborhood. Guess you missed the boat on the biz card. Could have been your ticket into the wonderful world of local tree commerce.

Aw, RBG now you've piqued my interest.

C'mon, won't somebody log in as an unregistered guest and share the fascinating secret details of this event?

I assumed it was just some typical, run of the mill drugs, gangs, domestic dispute or "disrespecting" type thing w/guns at the ready (SO overplayed - yawn!), but now am wondering if there's some new and different plot twist to this story that distinguishes it from the same old same old.

seriously. why would you come on here just to say,"i know what happened, but i'm not telling" ?

RBG wrote: I know what happened too, but it just wouldn't be a good thing to share all the details with the entire board. Sorry. But, this will all pass in about a week most of the folks on the board will be talking about something else.

Isn't it obvious? The DON'T SNITCH propaganda has been propogated.

RBG i agree with you totally and some people won't see that, if they are sincere about what really happened they would attend block association meetings or the local organization meetings to deal with the matter appropriately
he has the # of the crime lol

yes you are missing a lot but i am sure you dont mind

you sound mad is it because you are not invovled in the community the way you need to be

I'm not mad. I'm just puzzled at why you can't answer a simple question: has a block association (and again, many people who post here DO participate such organizations) addressed the shooting? Or were you just horseshittin' around when you claimed folks would know all and see all if only they'd gone to a community meeting?

howdareu: a lot of people can't attend block association meetings because of work or family obligations. Doesn't it seem wise for the association to have a voice on this forum and to provide information that benefits the community? and why can't you share information that is discussed at the meetings here if so many people are interested in knowing more about what happened? Isn't the safety of the community "Job #1" for the association?

You clearly are someone who feels passionately about what happens on the block. But cryptic answers, like the ones you are giving will only have a negative effect on the community. I'm confused...

RBG wrote: I just hope that in an effort to "solve" these crimes, the police don't lock up the wrong people. But yes, Izisharp, I'm not snitching.

oh, great. hope the police psychically know the truth, then. :roll:

The "Don't Snitch" mentality is one of the most insanely ridiculous things I've ever encountered.