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Another gay republican homophobe US Senator bites the dust — Brooklynian

Another gay republican homophobe US Senator bites the dust

Roll Call magazine reports the (R) from Idaho Larry Craig was arrested for lewd conduct in a public restroom in the International Minneapolis St Paul Airport. Police reports prove that the Senator did plead quilty and did pay a fine...
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  • http://wonkette.com/politics/stealing-gonzo.s-thunder-dept'/idaho-senator-larry-craig-arrested-in-mens-room-293922.php
    from the comments:
    For a party with such a small tent, they have an awfully big closet.

    http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/27/breaking-us-senator-larry-craig-busted-for-lewd-conduct-in-airport-mens-room/
    Idaho’s Larry Craig on the issues:

    * Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
    * Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
    * Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
    * Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
    * Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)

    Craig has a 0% rating in HRC’s 2006 Congressional Scorecard.
  • this shit just infuriates me but then reality sets in.......we voted this bastard into office so why complain.
  • lmboogie wrote: this shit just infuriates me but then reality sets in.......we voted this bastard into office so why complain.
    You vote in Idaho?
  • nope, can't say i voted in idaho but hard to make an argument (especially with my foreign friends) when a good portion of the folks in idaho voted for him.
  • Imagine I'm your foreign friend instead of foreign board acquaintance. We're used to not blaming individual Americans for individual elected representatives, and if we know anything about the US, we know it's a federation of states, some of which are just plain weird on average from a global perspective. I despise the federal government my country elected, the top leadership in particular, and I have personal greivances against the government my wife's country elected. I'd object to people associating us with their policies or bad behavior. Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others that have been tried. It's four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.

    By the way, really nice one about the small tent and big closet.
  • wolf steak, obvi. :)
  • I AM NOT GAY - just like shoes is all
  • This was one of my favorite blog entries on the subject

    Is There a Republican Senator Who's NOT Having Bathroom Sex?
    http://susiebright.blogs.com/susie_brights_journal_/2007/08/this-has-gone-1.html
  • I LOVE susie bright. when she spoke at my college, a bomb threat was called in. so. our director of religious life (no, srsly, that was his title), allowed her to speak in our chapel. after he welcomed her, she thanked him, he left, and she offered to demonstrate female ejaculation on the alter. love that woman. and her lackeys, selling penis and vagina shaped lollipops at her talk.
  • Gay bathroom sex is the new prayer group meeting.
  • BigGuy wrote: Gay bathroom sex is the new prayer group meeting.
    that explains all the kneeling.
  • I think there's a joke about taking communion here but I'll refrain for the good of us all.
  • As fun as all the schadenfreude is in a situation like this, my boss sent around an email yesterday about this that makes some really great points that aren't really being said much in the media about this right now. Bear in mind that I work for an LGBT rights organization, so that's what the third paragraph is about.
    This has been bothering me all day. I've read the police report. He looked into the stall, he tapped his feet and he ran his hand under the partition. We all think we know where he was headed. But Larry Craig did not commit a crime. His guilty plea proves that he is, at best, stupid. It doesn't make him guilty of a crime.

    Moreover, police stings in restrooms are offensive and hypocritical. If you really want to stop people from having sex in restrooms, all you need to do is put up a sign saying the place is patrolled by undercover officers. It never fails. We'd be angry if the police did this to someone other than a right wing hypocrite. But his hypocrisy does not justify theirs.

    Even if you are just thinking about this in terms of getting rid of a bad vote in the Senate, he shouldn't be forced to resign. The governor and the voters in Idaho will not send someone who will vote differently to Washington. They might well send someone with more credibility with his colleagues than Larry Craig has, especially now.

    He shouldn't be forced to resign, and we shouldn't gloat over his arrest and plea. He is a sad and pathetic character. There is nothing to celebrate here.
    Men who cruise for sex in public restrooms are almost always deeply closeted, sad, tortured people. Deeply closeted, sad, tortured people who then use their political power to hurt other LGBT people are worthy of our contempt, but that doesn't make outing people through bathroom stings a noble endeavor.
  • This has been an extremely professional investigative reporting job by the Idaho Statesman - and allegations have been circulating for decades and people have come forward. This isn't about police misconduct or a witch hunt - it's about a deeply disturbed self-hating closeted man who used his power to push through hurtful restrictive legislation that impacted the lives of thousands of people.

    I feel no pity or sorrow for anyone but his wife and family and the people of Idaho who put their thrust in him.

    Read this article...
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/143801.html
  • Livetotravel wrote: This has been an extremely professional investigative reporting job by the Idaho Statesman - and allegations have been circulating for decades and people have come forward. This isn't about police misconduct or a witch hunt - it's about a deeply disturbed self-hating closeted man who used his power to push through hurtful restrictive legislation that impacted the lives of thousands of people.
    The Statesman's coverage has indeed been *really* thorough on this.

    I don't think what I said and what I quoted implies this was police misconduct -- it just says police bathroom stings are bad (an arguable point, certainly, but it's not quite the same as calling it misconduct). And believe me, I love seeing closeted homophobes go down (so to speak) and I'm with you in your opinion of Larry Craig. It's just that this isn't necessarily going to bring about change in terms of whoever the people of Idaho replace him with, if it comes to that.
    Livetotravel wrote: I feel no pity or sorrow for anyone but his wife and family and the people of Idaho who put their thrust in him.
    I know that was a typo, but given the context that just about made me bust a gut. :lol::lol::lol:
  • Tucker Carlson, gay-basher
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200708290003

    funny, what this story is bringing up . . .
    UPDATED: Carlson claimed that after incident in a public bathroom, he assaulted the man who "bothered" him

    On the August 28 edition of MSBNC Live, hosted by MSNBC general manager Dan Abrams, Tucker Carlson, host of MSNBC's Tucker, asserted, "Having sex in a public men's room is outrageous. It's also really common. I've been bothered in men's rooms." Carlson continued, "I've been bothered in Georgetown Park," in Washington, D.C., "when I was in high school." When Abrams asked how Carlson responded to being "bothered," Carlson asserted, "I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head, actually."
    followed by a xsript of the whole segment
  • apollonia666 wrote: [quote=Livetotravel]This has been an extremely professional investigative reporting job by the Idaho Statesman - and allegations have been circulating for decades and people have come forward. This isn't about police misconduct or a witch hunt - it's about a deeply disturbed self-hating closeted man who used his power to push through hurtful restrictive legislation that impacted the lives of thousands of people.
    The Statesman's coverage has indeed been *really* thorough on this.

    I don't think what I said and what I quoted implies this was police misconduct -- it just says police bathroom stings are bad (an arguable point, certainly, but it's not quite the same as calling it misconduct). And believe me, I love seeing closeted homophobes go down (so to speak) and I'm with you in your opinion of Larry Craig. It's just that this isn't necessarily going to bring about change in terms of whoever the people of Idaho replace him with, if it comes to that.
    Livetotravel wrote: I feel no pity or sorrow for anyone but his wife and family and the people of Idaho who put their thrust in him.
    I know that was a typo, but given the context that just about made me bust a gut. :lol::lol::lol:

    OMG - another Freudian slip!
  • pitu wrote: Tucker Carlson, gay-basher
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200708290003

    funny, what this story is bringing up . . .
    UPDATED: Carlson claimed that after incident in a public bathroom, he assaulted the man who "bothered" him

    On the August 28 edition of MSBNC Live, hosted by MSNBC general manager Dan Abrams, Tucker Carlson, host of MSNBC's Tucker, asserted, "Having sex in a public men's room is outrageous. It's also really common. I've been bothered in men's rooms." Carlson continued, "I've been bothered in Georgetown Park," in Washington, D.C., "when I was in high school." When Abrams asked how Carlson responded to being "bothered," Carlson asserted, "I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head, actually."
    followed by a xsript of the whole segment
    Tucker Carlson = another self-loathing closeted male
  • Livetotravel wrote: [quote=pitu]Tucker Carlson, gay-basher
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200708290003

    funny, what this story is bringing up . . .
    UPDATED: Carlson claimed that after incident in a public bathroom, he assaulted the man who "bothered" him

    On the August 28 edition of MSBNC Live, hosted by MSNBC general manager Dan Abrams, Tucker Carlson, host of MSNBC's Tucker, asserted, "Having sex in a public men's room is outrageous. It's also really common. I've been bothered in men's rooms." Carlson continued, "I've been bothered in Georgetown Park," in Washington, D.C., "when I was in high school." When Abrams asked how Carlson responded to being "bothered," Carlson asserted, "I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head, actually."
    followed by a xsript of the whole segment
    Tucker Carlson = another self-loathing closeted male

    fer serious
  • Speaking of all these bathroom experiences, DailyKos has something to add to it:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/29/174659/091
  • and this from the Times blogs...

    Annals of things you can’t make up: The American Prospect’s Garance Franke-Ruta, writing on her personal blog, TheGarance.com, digs through the case history of sexual solicitation in public restrooms. Her best discovery is the name of an Idaho decision that “ruled that (solo) masturbation within an enclosed restroom stall was constitutionally protected behavior as the individual within the stall had a reasonable expectation of privacy within the stall.” The case: State v. Limberhand.
    As commenter Matt Zeitlin observes in the post’s discussion thread, “Guys, let’s not lose sight of what’s important here, the dude’s name was Limberhand! Maybe it’s the 17 year old boy in me, but how can everyone not find this [gut-bustingly] hilarious?”
  • BigGuy, that Kos piece cracked me up! :mrgreen:
  • Also, just to clear things up, here's a Slate piece on the ins and outs of bathroom sex etiquette:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/
  • BigGuy wrote: Also, just to clear things up, here's a Slate piece on the ins and outs of bathroom sex etiquette:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

    ah, yes. the old in out.
  • Subject: “Tearoom Trade: Impersonal Sex in Public Places”

    Even the NYT op-ed page cracks the code . . . really interesting Op-Ed yesterday
    America’s Toe-Tapping Menace

    America’s Toe-Tapping Menace
    By LAURA M. Mac DONALD
    Published: September 2, 2007

    WHAT is shocking about Senator Larry Craig’s bathroom arrest is not what he may have been doing tapping his shoe in that stall, but that Minnesotans are still paying policemen to tap back. For almost 40 years most police departments have been aware of something that still escapes the general public: men who troll for sex in public places, gay or “not gay,” are, for the most part, upstanding citizens. Arresting them costs a lot and accomplishes little.

    In 1970, Laud Humphreys published the groundbreaking dissertation he wrote as a doctoral candidate at Washington University called “Tearoom Trade: Impersonal Sex in Public Places.” Because of his unorthodox methods — he did not get his subjects’ consent, he tracked down names and addresses through license plate numbers, he interviewed the men in their homes in disguise and under false pretenses — “Tearoom Trade” is now taught as a primary example of unethical social research.

    That said, what results! In minute, choreographic detail, Mr. Humphreys (who died in 1988) illustrated that various signals — the foot tapping, the hand waving and the body positioning — are all parts of a delicate ritual of call and answer, an elaborate series of codes that require the proper response for the initiator to continue. Put simply, a straight man would be left alone after that first tap or cough or look went unanswered.

    Why? The initiator does not want to be beaten up or arrested or chased by teenagers, so he engages in safeguards to ensure that any physical advance will be reciprocated. As Mr. Humphreys put it, “because of cautions built into the strategies of these encounters, no man need fear being molested in such facilities.”

    Mr. Humphreys’s aim was not just academic: he was trying to illustrate to the public and the police that straight men would not be harassed in these bathrooms. His findings would seem to suggest the implausibility not only of Senator Craig’s denial — that it was all a misunderstanding — but also of the policeman’s assertion that he was a passive participant. If the code was being followed, it is likely that both men would have to have been acting consciously for the signals to continue.

    Mr. Humphreys broke down these transactions into phases, which are remarkably similar to the description of Senator Craig’s behavior given by the police.
    there's more
  • I love how she concludes the piece...
    And for our part, let’s stop being so surprised when we discover that our public figures have their own complex sex lives, and start being more suspicious when they self-righteously denounce the sex lives of others.
    :D
  • Looks like he's resigning. he didn't return from recess I heard.
    Plus he hired Michael Vick's attorney...that worked out well for Mr. Vick...

    Maybe he hired him for his upcoming divorce too...

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/09/02/sen-craig-hires-michael-vicks-attorney/
    September 2, 2007
    Sen. Craig hires Michael Vick's attorney

    Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho.

    (CNN)–Senator Larry Craig is hiring some big guns from the legal world, including Michael Vick's lawyer, to represent him in his upcoming legal proceedings.Craig said he has retained Vick's attorney, Billy Martin, to handle most of his legal affairs. He said he has retained Stan Brand, who represented Major League Baseball in connection with the congressional investigation into Major League Baseball’s steroid policies, to handle issues pertaining to an investigation by the Senate Ethics committee.

    The comments came in a question and answer session with Craig that his office released following his announcement he would resign his Senate seat effective September 30.

    Watch Sen. Craig's resignation speech

    Craig says pending issues, and assuring an orderly transition were some of the reasons he will not step down immediately.

    Questions for and Answers From U.S. Senator Larry Craig released by his office Saturday:

    Q: Why September 30?

    A: Thousands of Idahoans come to me every year for assistance in resolving issues with federal agencies, like obtaining passports, resolving Social Security or pension problems, and I want to make sure as many of these are resolved as possible. What can’t be resolved will be transferred to my successor in an orderly way. I want to make as smooth a transition as possible for Idaho.

    Q: Will you return to Washington, D.C.? When?

    A: That has not been determined.

    Q: Will you continue to vote and attend hearings during this time?

    A: See above.

    Q: Who is your legal counsel?

    A: Stan Brand with Brand Law Group has been retained to handle issues pertaining to the Senate Ethics Committee investigation. Billy Martin with Southerland, Asbil & Brennan has been retained to handle all other legal affairs.

    Q: Have you filed papers in Minnesota to begin your legal defense?

    A: You’ll have to speak with Mr. Martin or Mr. Brand on any questions pertaining to legal affairs.

    Q: Have you spoken with Governor Otter about a replacement?

    A: No.

    Q: Have you had any conversations with Lieutenant Governor Risch?

    A: No.

    – CNN Political Desk Editor Jamie Crawford
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