Thinking about moving to Bed Stuy, need input
Hi all,
I am thinking about moving to Bed-Stuy with my wife and my two kids (2 and 5 year old). However Bed Stuy is huge! I am not sure where I should start looking.
What is important to us is proximity to subway stop, groceries stores and if possible coffee shops.
I would appreciate any input.
Thanks in advance.
I am thinking about moving to Bed-Stuy with my wife and my two kids (2 and 5 year old). However Bed Stuy is huge! I am not sure where I should start looking.
What is important to us is proximity to subway stop, groceries stores and if possible coffee shops.
I would appreciate any input.
Thanks in advance.
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We live on Tompkins Avenue, near Jefferson and Putnam Ave and are very pleased. It is a 15 minute walk to the A train at Nostrand, but a seven minute walk to the C at Kingston throop. We are within six minutes of Super Foodtown at Restoration Plaza, which is a massive and great grocery store. Common Grounds Coffee House is across the street on Tompkins Ave and is better than just about any coffee house I have been to. I think anywhere near Tompkins Avenue between Madison and Fulton is a good option. Tompkins is not always that quiet, but with the summer over that has changed substantially. There are so many great, quite blocks off of Tompkins. Plus there are two nice parks on Tompkins. For our money, the area has been great.
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Renting or buying?
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Renting. Does it make any difference if I could buy?
Thanks for your pointers, the_new_guy. -
I live on Bedford and Lafayette right above the bedford/nostrand G station and I like it alright- I'm literally on top of the train, Tiny Cup is about 2 blocks away, there's a (crappy) grocery store around the corner...I've been told this area is going to "turn cool" and look forward to getting perhaps a decent grocery store that has things like chicken breasts but for the time being its ok. There's not a whole lot of kids around here, though, and Lafayette is a pretty busy st. so I wouldnt recommend living right off of it with young children.
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There is a alot less to think about in renting, but streets like Macon, Halsey, Hancock, Jefferson, Chauncey, Decatur and Macdonough between Stuyvesant and Bedford are good for the A/C and for the G Greene, Lexington, Clifton Lafayette, Dekalb and Spencer are good. Good Luck
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Carmen,
Thanks for your input.
I am surprised to hear that there are not too many kids around ...
How is Lafayette avenue close to Tomkins Park? I heard there was a school and pool not far? Is there also a market next to the park?
How is the G train? Do you take it and then switch to the L train to go to Manhattan?
Best of luck!
Thanks again!
Sam -
Guru,
Thanks for the tips.
I saw some new constructions in the neighborhood. Are they more expensive in terms of rent? -
Please boycott all new construction!
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Tennis-
I'm not sure about down near thomkins, but yes there is a pool of sorts a few blocks off lafayette. Its a "wading" pool I think (one of those huge but shallow ones.) I guess what I mean is there's not many kids near my intersection- bedford and lafayette is a pretty big traffic spot and, like I said, I'd be nervous having young kids because of all of the cars, not the neighborhood itself. If you had a backyard or something you'd be fine.
The Bedford/Nostrand G train stop is 4 stops from Hoyt and the A/C line and 4 stops from Lormier/Metropolitan and the L train, so you have either option for getting to work. The L train is faster, but is generally hell to get on in the morning, so if I leave the house earlier I can take the A/C. If I catch the L on a good day, it takes me 25 minutes to get from my house to 26thst in chelsea via the L and F trains. On a bad day with the L, it takes 45-50 minutes. On a "regular" day on the A/C its about 35-40, and thats pretty consistent.
Getting to work can really be a crapshoot. -
Thanks Carmen for the additional information.
I found two apts near the G line:
- one in Hart St between Nostrand & Marcy
- one in Quincy St also between Nostrand & Marcy
What do guys think of these two locations? It looks like there is a school in renovation between Vernon and Willoughby. I also heard there was a new YMCA in Bedford & Monroe; how is it?
Thanks. -
I havn't been to the Y, but I've been on Hart st around there and its...ok? I mean, the whole neighborhood is SO block by block, you'll really have to check it out for yourself to get a feel for the area. Being close to Myrtle is nice, its kind of a main drag with some shops and stuff.
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i'm on quincy between bedford and nostrand, and i like it, especially the proximity to the YMCA, which is beautiful. There is a great french-african restaurant on the corner of Quincy and Bedford, and there will probably be more stuff on Bedford soon. Nostrand is a busy main drag, you're also close to Tiny Cup on Nostrand and Clifton, where I see people bringing their kids on the weekends for brunch. The down side is that Nostrand is kind of sketchy at night. Other times theres lots of working people around.
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Hey Windowbox,
Thanks for the input.
Tiny Cup looks nice from the pics I found on the web!
How is YMCA? Do they have a pool? If yes how big is it? -
tiny cup rocks, btw. If you see a girl with pink/orange/green/purple/black hair and giant holes in her ear lobes, thats me
Come say Hi...I spend LOTS of time there on saturdays. I have internet at home but theres is way faster. -
Wow! I am sure I'm not going to miss you if I see you there :shock:

Is there a dog run in the neighborhood? We have a shih tzu dog. -
^I'm hard to miss. The dayglo hair and tattoos usually make me stick out like a sore thumb anywhere, bedstuy is def not an exception.
Tiny cup rules though
I dont think we have a dog run or park. Gotta hit the pavement. -
The Y does have a pool, but it's not really super big. it does allow for laps, however, and there's a schedule for pool usage. the Y is also incredibly CHEAP for what you're getting, and provides child care certain times too. my old gym membership was more than twice as much for basically the same quality.
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tennisfan wrote: Renting. Does it make any difference if I could buy?
Did you notice how I went on and ignored his sarcasm -I'm tryin'- he even thanked me later. 8)
Thanks for your pointers, the_new_guy. -
Hey Tennisfan,
Weighing in here since I have both a child and a dog (and I'm a tennis fan, too!). Like New Guy, I recently moved to Tompkins & Jefferson, and we are digging it for the most part. I second Common Grounds recommendation, and there is a new coffee shop that just opened on Putnam I think? Cafe TwoFiftyEight, which I hear good things about. If you go out to Lewis Ave, there's Bread Stuy, which is awesome, too. Lifestyle Kids (children's clothing) is coming to Tompkins by the end of the month. There are playgrounds on every other block it seems (some better than others). No dog runs (not a lot of friendly or neutered dogs either, so it's probably just as well). Von King park can be a bit loud, but it's cool. The Y is very cool (I wish I was a bit closer to it). Now this is just my opinion, but I prefer being a slave to the A/C line than the G part of Bed-Stuy (esp. if you're commuting into Manhattan). If I were you, I'd also research school districts at insideschools.org -- there are some good schools around here, but there are also some crap schools. (My girl is still a toddler, so I'm just starting to research this maddening labyrinth.) That also might influence your choice of blocks. Only you can gauge what your comfort level is and what your lifestyle is. So I'd suggest actually coming out and checking out these pockets of BS in person instead of going by craigslistings and Google maps. You've gotten some good info here as far as which pockets to start with. GL! -
Thanks Solamami for your input!
Yesterday I went to have dinner with my wife at the French African restaurant on the corner of Bedford and Quincy. It was delicious!!! It was expensive but the food was fantastic!!!
I have another question. I have seen lots of small parks when walking around. How are they managed? Most of them had a lock. How and when can we access them? How can we help to improve them?
Thanks to all again. -
Oh guru!
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Hey Tennisfan,
I've been meaning to get to Le Toukouleur, cuz I hear great things. AFA the small parks, I'm not really sure how they're managed. I think they're supposed to have a close-at-dusk rule, and some are better enforced than others, obviously. I'm all for improvement, as I grow wary of intermittently cleaning up broken glass pieces and chicken bones from the playground, so if you find anything out from the Parks Dept., let me know! -
Some of the small parks that you've been noticing might be community gardens. If so, they often have their hours posted. If not, just call the parks department and they can give you a contact name/number/email or website for the person who heads up that particular community park/garden.
And yes, Le Toukouleur is great. I just had the vegetarian mafe there last night. Yum! -
We were about to move to an apt around Quincy St and Nostrand Ave when an old friend advised us not do so. He's a 45-year old MD who grew up in Crown Heights (he now lives in Queens). He said he used to be part of a gang in Crown Heights, Bed-Stuy and Prospect Heights when he was younger. He said the neighborhood was not safe and that we would suffer from prejudices.
We walked around Quincy St several times and it looks ok. In your opinion is that an old image of Bed Stuy that he has? I must admit he kind of scared us ... Should we consider looking for something more North like Hart St and Marcy Ave? -
If I may add my 2 cents. I gather that you are not of African American descent and thus the reason for your friends concern for you suffering prejudices by moving into what is still predominantly an African American community in transition.Correct me if I am wrong.Although the area has seen an increase in diversity due to the many students, artists and families relocating from Williamsburg, Manhattan,Park Slope or from another state altogether, there is room for improvement.Services are slowly improving with additions like TinyCup, Letoukeleur and various other establishments. In time, other services will be established as the demand for them is recognized.People have stereotyped certain neighborhoods for so long. BedStuy is no different than any other community in NYC,a community of hard working, law abiding residents.Like even the toniest neighborhoods, there are some bad apples in the bunch.I can only suggest that you visit the area you are thinking of moving to at different times of the day.Speak to the residents,ask about transportation, schools, etc. Visit the pct as well.The feedback and responses you get will let you know whether you will be comfortable in this environment.Of the 2 areas you mentioned, Nostrand is a busy street as it is a bus route as well.You will find more traffic, vehicular and foot in that area.Hart and Marcy is a little quieter but blah.Good luck and wherever you relocate to, embrace your community and it in turn will embrace you.
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guru wrote: Please boycott all new construction!
To me that means what you're really saying is "Please boycott all economic development and things that would make the nabe better".
Is that what you really wanted to say? -
arlette wrote: If I may add my 2 cents. I gather that you are not of African American descent and thus the reason for your friends concern for you suffering prejudices by moving into what is still predominantly an African American community in transition.Correct me if I am wrong.Although the area has seen an increase in diversity due to the many students, artists and families relocating from Williamsburg, Manhattan,Park Slope or from another state altogether, there is room for improvement.Services are slowly improving with additions like TinyCup, Letoukeleur and various other establishments. In time, other services will be established as the demand for them is recognized.People have stereotyped certain neighborhoods for so long. BedStuy is no different than any other community in NYC,a community of hard working, law abiding residents.Like even the toniest neighborhoods, there are some bad apples in the bunch.I can only suggest that you visit the area you are thinking of moving to at different times of the day.Speak to the residents,ask about transportation, schools, etc. Visit the pct as well.The feedback and responses you get will let you know whether you will be comfortable in this environment.Of the 2 areas you mentioned, Nostrand is a busy street as it is a bus route as well.You will find more traffic, vehicular and foot in that area.Hart and Marcy is a little quieter but blah.Good luck and wherever you relocate to, embrace your community and it in turn will embrace you.
Arlette,
Your guess is right. Thank you for your advice that makes perfectly sense.
We tried Letoukouleur that we love in spite of the high prices. We also saw TinyCup as we were walking around the neighborhood yersterday night; they were closing at 9:00pm.
Thanks again.
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Hey new guy, we live on Quincy between Patchen and Malcolm X and we love it. It is a very quiet block and it's three short blocks to the J/Z line. Lots of kids on our block always playing and riding their bikes. We also have a pocket park at the corner which we take care of & where we grow vegetables. Hope you find what you're looking for.
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I recently moved into the area you are referring to, Tennisfan (Nostrand near Quincy). I was familiar with he area before I decided on my apartment but I also knew that it, like an earlier poster mentioned, really varies block by block and you need to check it out for yourself. Nostrand is a heavily-traveled street which can be a good and a bad thing. I feel safe but there is a noise issue between the bus, cars, and the foot traffic from the train. The side streets are certainly quieter.
I would spend time in the area if I were you and get a feel for what it will be like to walk to and from the train and grocery stores at night. I have found people to be friendly, welcoming, and a great source of information on the area so definitely speak with your potential new neighbors. -
tennisfan wrote: He's a 45-year old MD who grew up in Crown Heights (he now lives in Queens). He said he used to be part of a gang in Crown Heights, Bed-Stuy and Prospect Heights when he was younger. He said the neighborhood was not safe and that we would suffer from prejudices.
so when did he leave the gang? before or after med school? i'd be willing to guess that things have changed quite a bit since his gang days. maybe not perfectly tolerant, but a lot better than in the 80s.
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