Rocky Sullivan's / Liberty Heights Tap
Subject: Rocky Sullivan's / Liberty Heights Tap
Having been a regular at Liberty Heights Tap for several years, I'm totally dismayed at the changes resultant from its change of ownership. It used to be you could get a range of draft beers there (admittedly mostly Five Point, from the adjacent brewery, but that was okay because they're great beers) but now (as of today) all they've got on tap is Guinness and Budweiser. I first noticed the post-ownership-change downturn about three weeks ago when they were down to one Six Point on tap and couldn't even muster quarters for the pool table without sending a worker on a trek to get change. Since then it's gone downhill even more. What a shame that such a gem of a place has become the equivalent of a third rate chain bar like Connolly's. Well, I suppose they'll pull in the undiscriminating Ikea crowd once that store clogs the streets with traffic, but they won't be getting my business any more.John Ife
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o noes!
some friends of mine were there when they first opened,
because they had Six Point!
The Rocky's folks are good people, from the Manhattan bar. I hope this is just some kind of growing pain... -
Subject: thumbs down to rocky's
When I asked for a six point and was offered a Budweiser instead, I expressed mild disappointment and was told: "there was a yuppie bar down the street." I'll not be giving my money to Rocky's. -
Subject: Re: thumbs down to rocky's
a neighbor wrote: When I asked for a six point and was offered a Budweiser instead, I expressed mild disappointment and was told: "there was a yuppie bar down the street." I'll not be giving my money to Rocky's.
some friends of mine were there this weekend and found it hard to get served . . .
note to Rocky's ownership:
get it together
p.s.
your saturday staff was boneheaded as of Oct 13, 2007 -
I was there yesterday and they had 2 six points on tap and some other beers. $6 a pint seemed a buck too much, but whatever. There was a small brunch crowd and everyone seemed really neighborly and friendly.
This was during the day though. -
Subject: sixpoint aint cheap
When you get kegs for less than half price you can afford to sell it dirt cheap.When they charge full price (more than most imported beers by the way) it's hard to simply give it away. I think it's kind of nice that they have other brands of beer on tap. Sixpoint is ok but Guinness has been at it much longer and it's nice to be able to get one instead of Sixpoints heavy, high alchohol content, sometimes sour beer.Plus,you don't have to be a long haired,bearded,musician/artist/poet from somewhere in the midwest, to hang out and feel comforatable. Believe it or not, working class Brooklyn people (or people from anywhere.) have a place where they can drink and eat and not have to hear some well off kid from the suburbs complaining that his parents don't support his artist lifestyle, or that IKEA is driving them out,while meanwhile, they drove the Red Hook natives out when they paid $2000 for a one bedroom on Coffee st that was $500 when the poor family that lived there previously got kicked out because you were willing to spend more (of your parents money). -
Oi, rudeboi! Not all of us are trustafarians.
Actually, on this site I gather that most are working people that don't have family money. That describes me and my friends.
But whatever, is it so hard to have Six Point and Guinness and whatever bilgwater Bud you want - all on tap? Do the new owners, just in from their Manhattan bar, hate the previous clientele from Liberty Tap Room? The new Rocky's is next door to a local brewery with great beer - you accusing Six Point of some yuppie monster thing? wtf?
I don't follow what you were talking about with the kegs half price stuff. Are you saying Guinness is half the price of Six Point? or Bud? -
Yeah, what the hell, rudeboi; have the new owners conciously made a decision that they're going to limit their clientelle to those local residents who desire nothing more than Bud and Guiness? It may be a recipe for attracting a very limited audience, may make a statement about exclusion of people that are percieved as yuppie scum (a category that I for sure do not fall into), but, sure as hell, is not a viable business plan. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not only stupid and productive of ugly results (both visually within the metaphor and societically outside of it) but is generally accepted to be a formula for economic failure. Ain't nobody gonna be drinking there if the place goes down the pan.
John Ife -
Subject: rocky sullivan's/liberty heights tap
i think what rudeboi is referring to is that Steve of Liberty Heights is also the landlord of the brewery, and was getting the kegs of Sixpoint for major discount and could afford to charge less; when Rocky's took over, the keg price went way up. (And i think that distributors give deals on kegs of guinness et al that smaller breweries can't afford to, so craft brews are probably more expensive t stock). I've asked and most of the bartenders seem to be fans of the local brew (except for one, who REALLY doesn't like it) and i think they are committed to keeping two sixpoints on tap all the time. and the feeling is you can't have an irish-ish bar without guinness. and some people actually like bud. I knew the owners from the pub in manhattan -- chris byrne is a brooklyn guy and always talked about opening a place in his home borough and i was psyched when they moved here. i hope that the problems are just growing pains -- i think that the shortages are at least partially due to the fact that business is uneven and hard to predict. red hook on a cold tuesday night can make for a very empty place still and i think they are having trouble anticipating the busy nights and therefore run out. i hope that's all it is. -
Honestly, It's only $1 more for a Pint of Sixpoint (If you realy like the stuff you'll pay the extra buck.) plus there open 7 days a week now (until atleast 2am) so if I want to get away from my wife for a while at midnight ,I can do so in a quiet place that I can have a good conversation with the bartender and for the most part it's a given that I'll get a buy back on my 4th drink.
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