NE patriots taping defense - thoughts?

Actually I find the lawsuit filed by a Jets fan against the Pats and Belichek more interesting than the actual filming incident.

NE became impossible to beat at the exact moment that Drew Bledsoe got hurt and Tom Brady replaced him.

Subject: Re: NE patriots taping defense - thoughts?

alafairnadia wrote: NE has been practically impossible to defeat in the last 7 years - why? strictly talent or talent plus knowing exactly what the opposing team is up to?

Almost certainly that second one there. The Patriots are a good team with good players, sure, but they've been able to do waaaay too much with what they have had. Oh, right, it's coaching - I forgot what a genius Billy B. was in Cleveland. ESPN.com has done some good pieces on the subject, and I agree with their assertion that the NFL's response (destroying everything and refusing to say anything meaningful about the materials) indicates that the Pats were cheating a lot more than anybody might have imagined.

WhyFi wrote: Everybody tries to steal signals, the Pats are just guilty of doing it with a camera. Binoculars? Go ahead! Camera? Bad boys!

Oh, for the record, I'm not a Pats fan.

Them's the rules, and they knew it. If I was trying to crack signals, I'd definitely like to have a video record that I could review and compare with other signals, show to my coaches, use to build a database, etc.

The use of binoculars has none of those benefits. Since it's 1) Less effective, and 2) Tougher to enforce a ban, well, have at it if you must. The "line" is often drawn in arbitrary places, but I don't think this is entirely true in this case.

Anyhow. Wouldn't you love to know what was in the Patriot's Big Book of Cheating? I would. I'd like to know how big or small of a deal this really is. The NFL's stiff penalty and rush to destroy (WTF?) the stuff makes me think it was pretty damned big.

I watch more football than any sane person should and while the Pats deserve whatever punishment they get, there's no way I would ever asterisk their Super Bowl wins.

Tom Brady is one of the two greatest QBs of his generation. Bill Belichek is the best coach of his generation. And the Pats front office is consistently among the best in the league.

There's no way that videotaping signals accounts for the Pats' success.

poor, poor Jets.

The patriots look completely unstoppable at this point.

I am thinking the cowboys are about to lose 2 in a row.

They are going down tonight in Buffalo and the Patriots are going to take them in Dallas too (+14 pts). They will be 4-2 in 2 weeks....

I am still not a believer in Big D just yet.

Did you see the Chicago game last night - signs of 'old' Favre were coming back...careless desperate throws across the middle...for interceptions.
Colts vs. Patriots in AFC championship: Patriots win super bowl this year...NFC team is irrelevant.

Saints...wtf?

Boygabriel wrote: As a life-long Cowboy hater I don't see how they could lose to Buffalo tonight. Buf is horrible.

Yeah, I don't see the Cowboys losing tonight, either...

I will say, however, that both the Patriots and the Cowboys have wins over teams that looked impressive based on last year, but are lookin' mighty damned flawed 5 weeks through the season - Brady & Co dismantling the 'Bolts doesn't look so impressive after the 'Bolts 3 subsequent games and the Cowboys over Da Bears doesn't look so impressive after the Lions put up 34 in the 4th quarter against the monsters of the midway last week, either... this'll be the first real test for both, I think.

its not too late to call me a genius for picking the bills....right now its 24 to 22 in the 4th quarter (Bills)...but we'll see how it plays out...

The cowboys opponents this season have a combined record of 5-15...they really aren't THAT good yet. Next year they will be better, but they will lose this game...

[edit: score and quarter change]

LOL OMG they won!!!!!! WTF!!!!

25-24- YOU guys are the geniuses!!LOL :!:

WhyFi wrote: It either a) takes a REALLY shitty team to lose a game when they're +5 on takeaways or b) takes a team with a lot of gumption to win when they're -5 on takeaways... That shit just doesn't happen.

Yo,
Did you watch that game?
That was the worst performance by a team that I have even seen win the game. How did that happen? Buffalo's offense never scored (Romo gave them all of their points) and then the kick-off return.

I gotta give it to Romo, even with 5 picks (6 turnovers), he lead his team to victory. That was a character builder right there - some real Elway sh*t. It was as if They had already lost 3 times and then won the game.

So does Romo's stock go up or down because of this game? He was really careless and sloppy. The Pats are looking at this game film closely...he can't do that next week or they will lose by 30 points.

Still going with the Patriots over Dallas next week.
They are playing perfect football.

It sucks that they moved these games to cable! Seriously.

So tomorrow is 'D-Day'. I'm going with:

New England 38
Dallas 14
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Brady: 3 TDS, 1 Int
Romo: 1 TD, 2 Int

Moss: 2 TDs
Owens: 1TD

NE will be undefeated until late in the season: 13-14 and 0.

Whyfi,

Who do you have with the Pats/ Colts?
I gotta go with the Patriots.

I watched the AFC championship game highlights from January and the Pats were 2 dropped passes away from beating the colts. ( colts 38/ pats 34)

I think they solved the receiver problem this year....

I would not count the Colts out so quickly. The Colts have beat the Pats three straight times now (including once in the playoffs). Granted the Pats have improved their offense since then, but that won't mean much when the Colts drain the clock and keep Brady and Co. off the field, which is what they did the last time they beat the Pats. I'm having a really hard time picking this game...

Just to get back on topic of the original subject.
I found this to be hilarious by the NYPost. I missed it when it first happened!
The asterisk and "caught cheating"! Brilliant