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Mets Fans — Brooklynian

Mets Fans

If this ship keeps sinking and the Mets miss the playoffs, I expect every member of the team to spend the next six months ringing doorbells and apologizing in person to those of us they've let down.

That is all.

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  • Subject: Re: Mets Fans

    Mookie Wilson wrote: If this ship keeps sinking and the Mets miss the playoffs, I expect every member of the team to spend the next six months ringing doorbells and apologizing in person to those of us they've let down.

    That is all.
    this lifelong Mets fan is disappointed - but the pain of losing this disastrously is part of being a mets fan. :x
  • the good thing now (9:16 on saturday) is that there is still hope.

    the bad thing now (9:17 on saturday) is that there is still hope.

    Let's go nationals (formerly knows as expos)!
  • Lets go METS! Yesterday won the prize for one of the most entertaining games of 2007. What fun! I've got my Jose Reyes shirt on today. You gotta believe.

    It's about time they got pissed off.
  • “It ain’t over ‘til it’s over.”
  • and now it's over. The most humiliating choke in baseball ever.

    So who will go first?

    :shock:
  • yoda wrote: and now it's over. The most humiliating choke in baseball ever.
    No. Yankees losing four straight to the Red Sox in 2004 was more humiliating because 1) It was the postseason, 2) It was the Yankees, who normally aren't given to such fiascos, and 3) It was their arch-rival that did them the dirt.

    Minaya will stay even though his failure to address some of the team's needs as the season developed was a cause of the disaster.

    Ok. The Mets. Time to face the fact that Willie Randolph is a great story but a mediocre manager. He'll survive despite the fact that he appears the be falling asleep on the bench most of the time and it rubs off on the players. Lacking a Will Clark/George Brett/Pete Rose type in the field every day to keep everybody honest they need an ass-kicking manager in the Billy Martin/Dick Williams mold. You can't have guys grinning dancing around like they're in a club when the situation is as dire as it was. It's ok to have some fun and stay loose, but at some point the bullshit has to stop. I hear Davey Johnson is looking for work if they do decide to drop Willie.

    Obviously, the bullpen will see some changes. I'd love to see Sanchez back for next year, the man knows his business. Mota can't pitch without the juice, he should have been gone months ago. I can't imagine that they'll want to keep Schoenweiss around. Feliciano will stay. Sosa and Heilman are marginal at this point, but I would guess Heilman stays and Sosa goes. Wagner will stay, although he's at an age where people might start thinking "finished" instead of "blip" whenever he has a stretch like he did over the last month. He's not going to get much slack.
    MichaelKeys wrote: “It ain’t over ‘til it’s over.”
    The irony here is that whenever IAOTIO gets trotted out, well, that's usually good sign that it's over. Ah, well. I can't decide whether to root for the Phillies or hope that they're ground into dust.
  • Drano wrote: [quote=yoda]and now it's over. The most humiliating choke in baseball ever.
    No. Yankees losing four straight to the Red Sox in 2004 was more humiliating ....
    Gotta love the Mets fans. Even when their team is embarrassed by a choke of epic proportions, they try to make themselves feel better by comparing themselves to the Yankees. It is not even close which choke was worse. The Red Sox were a great team that was simply destined to win that year. Hats off to them. They whipped the Yankees buts when it mattered most. The Mets choke was against some of the worst teams in the league. I would hate to be a Mets fan today.
  • Putting aside that I'm a Yankee fan, let me just say that this Met collapse was worse than the 2004 fiasco of the Yankees only because the Mets were weeks into their slide, while the NYY lost 4 straight games at the end. Both quite pathetic but FWIW not the same. (Btw, John Maine's brilliant performance on Saturday reminded me of why I love baseball.)

    Drano, root for the Cubs. They are worthy. Furthermore, I predict the WS will be between them and the dreaded Boston team. Where's that old Cubs/Sammy Sosa jersey of mine...?
  • the yankees' 'choke' is more significant because they're the yankees (plus it involved boston). the yanks are far more important in the history of baseball than the mets. in 50 years, i doubt anyone outside the five boroughs will even talk about the mets' choke of 2007. but they will recall the yankees' debacle against the bosox.
  • witch-king wrote: the yankees' 'choke' is more significant because they're the yankees (plus it involved boston). the yanks are far more important in the history of baseball than the mets.
    Sorry, but once again I have to disagree. Both the Yankees' 2004 and the Mets' 2007 respective debacles were unique but even on the surface the Mets' is worse because it involves a 7-game lead and in the Yankees' case, a 3-game lead. Not to mention that the boys from Flushing were sliding for weeks. The Yankee disaster may eventually be more talked about than the Mets' for the reasons you state but not more significant.
    witch-king wrote: in 50 years, i doubt anyone outside the five boroughs will even talk about the mets' choke of 2007. but they will recall the yankees' debacle against the bosox.
    The baseball commentators, national and otherwise, have made extensive mention of the 43-year old choke of the '64 Philllies over the last week. As a matter of fact, the fall of the ’51 Giants, ’78 Red Sox, ’87 Blue Jays and ’95 Angels, all got almost as much play as the '64 Phillies' did in their commentary about the Mets'. And if you notice, the first of that latter bunch was more than 50 years ago.

    As long as there is talk about championship series the fact that the great Yankees, for the first time in baseball history, lost 4 in a row after winning 3 (from their dreaded rivals the Boston Red Sox, no less) will never cease to be brought up. Neither will the greatest end-of-season collapse ever. (Or the Mets taking the '86 World Series from the Red Sox, for that matter.) That's just a sad reality for fans of these teams. However, the Yankees can console themselves with 26 WS rings and the Mets with being the expansion team with most appearances in the WS (4) and winning two of 'em.

    That's twice as many as your beloved Red Sox have won in the same 45-year span, Conan. :smile: (It was a funny skit, though.)
  • All right, you guys have convinced me. The Yankees choke in '04 was somehow a thing of poetic beauty, and proably even for the best in the long run.

    Actually, there's been a lot of this going around since the subject of chokes has come up recently. My Yankees fan friends (who for some odd reason hadn't seemed inclined to dwell on the more romantic aspects of '04 in '04, rag3 and despair being rather more common) have a newly minted perspective, a charitable world view in which perhaps it was time that Boston finally got a break, and who better to play a part in this destiny than the Yankees? WTF? The Red Sox? Seriously? I guess time truly does heal all wounds.

    Hey, look, this Mets idiocy will come up as a sidebar on a story whenever some team inevitably does - or is about to do - something similar, which will happen now and then. But for me it's a helluva a lot easier to take than going up 3-0 in the playoffs against, say, the Braves and then getting mangled would be - and that rivalry is nothing vs. Yankees/Red Sox.

    Edit: BTW I hope the Yankees get it back this year. I hate Boston.
  • Drano wrote: All right, you guys have convinced me. The Yankees choke in '04 was somehow a thing of poetic beauty, and proably even for the best in the long run.

    Actually, there's been a lot of this going around since the subject of chokes has come up recently. My Yankees fan friends (who for some odd reason hadn't seemed inclined to dwell on the more romantic aspects of '04 in '04, rag3 and despair being rather more common) have a newly minted perspective, a charitable world view in which perhaps it was time that Boston finally got a break, and who better to play a part in this destiny than the Yankees? WTF? The Red Sox? Seriously? I guess time truly does heal all wounds.

    Hey, look, this Mets idiocy will come up as a sidebar on a story whenever some team inevitably does - or is about to do - something similar, which will happen now and then. But for me it's a helluva a lot easier to take than going up 3-0 in the playoffs against, say, the Braves and then getting mangled would be - and that rivalry is nothing vs. Yankees/Red Sox.

    Edit: BTW I hope the Yankees get it back this year. I hate Boston.
    Last year I went on a date with a girl who, as it turns out, likes baseball. She was surprised when I told her I was a Yankee fan. “I figured you as someone who roots for the underdog,” she said.

    “Well, in 2005, once the Yankees were out of contention, I was with the White Sox all the way. They hadn’t won a World Series in an ice age and I was so happy to see them win, not to mention how they electrified the city of Chicago. That was really cool.”

    “So you must’ve been happy for the Red Sox when they finally won in 2004.”

    “Hell no! Fuck ’em. Watching them win was the equivalent of walking into my favorite bar and seeing the love of my life, who just dumped me, full-on PDAing her new, worthless, loser boyfriend. I will root for the Red Sox the day they play against Al-Qaeda. Until then, fuck ‘em.”

    I’m not kidding. And I still feel that way. Hope it never goes away. Especially since we can't use the "19-18" chant anymore.

    (Oh, and it was a really great date, btw. :wink:)
  • Ball games do make good dates, even if you aren't a rabid baseball fan. If the game bores you, you can talk to your date, and if your date bores you, you can watch the game! :)

    On no account should you ever take a date to the zoo. That's a recipe for disaster.
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    remembering about the miserable game makes me cry. :cry:
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