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  • I had a boyfriend in Kensington, and while I felt pretty safe there, the lack of amenities was annoying. It's a lot easier to get what I need here. Also the commute is not so hot.

    And much as you may put down CH, at least it's not Bushwick!! That area is depressing!
  • lilbangladesh wrote: I had a boyfriend in Kensington, and while I felt pretty safe there, the lack of amenities was annoying. It's a lot easier to get what I need here. Also the commute is not so hot.

    And much as you may put down CH, at least it's not Bushwick!! That area is depressing!
    the amenities is coming along on the f train side of church ave.
  • Yah, but if you live near the Q, there is nada!
  • lilbangladesh wrote: Yah, but if you live near the Q, there is nada!
    true dat.
  • I have pm'ed KWAC. I don't feel bad about calling him out. He has failed to respond in the past.
  • alafairnadia wrote: [quote=Lucille]KWAC. I noticed that you conveniently disappear when you're asked to give insight and enlighten us as to the reasons this precinct offers such inferior policing. Where are you?
    he's actually addressed this in many other threads.

    I agree, this has been addressed many times. It comes down to one issue, insufficient staffing.
  • Unlike some people on this this board, and I dont wanna say any names, but it rhymes with hittlehanglemesh. I do actually work, and dont monitor this board and every single thread. Frankly, the Crime threads are quite stale and usually not interesting. As for calling me out, I never received a PM, so I don't know what you're talking about. As for your questions and concerns regarding your incident. 1) I'm glad you called the Police 2)Obviously you called and stated that there was a man with a gun 3) Thats why you had the entire precinct show up with their 3 Police cars 4) after stopping the man who you claimed had a Gun and determining there was no gun and he was drunk, they sent him on his way. By the sound of your complaint, it sounds like that was all there was to it.(a drunk idiot). After speaking with Cops, it was determined that no Crime had actually occured. Trespassing BTW is a Violation and requires the owner of the building as a complainant.
    Believe it or not, Police in the City respond to these calls every day and 99% of the time people throw the word "GUN" in the 911 Call to get a faster Police response. Sounds like the Cops actually did their job, found the perpetrator, stopped him, asked you if you were OK and if he put his hands on you, than escorted him off the block. Did you even thank the Cops?
    To clarify your "NO SNITCHIN" comments, Snitchin usually refers to uninvolved parties ratting someone out for criminal activity, not a Complainant/Victim of a Crime calling the Police to report an incident that happened to themselves.
    Don't think I'm blaiming the victim for living on that block, you're entitled to live where you wish. However don't Blame the Police for not comforting you after the incident, most likely they're about to run to another emergency call, but this time for a woman who was assualted in her ear by a very loud scream.
    P.S. Thanks moderators and fellow posters for the quick defense, I have now set my cellphone to receive alerts next time theres a post involving KWAC.
  • mh004g
    Newbie

    around what address was this, i live on that block and i am always checking outside just to see whats going on, see if i recognize any neighbors walking about. i will defintly keep m eyes open for any shady people walking around...
  • A key on my computer isn't working so this might be annoying but p*ease bear with me. Yes it's the * key. I fee* perfect*y justified c**ing KWAC out. He ca**ed me out on the "strange*y speedy activity in front of my apartment thread." I gave him a *ong exp*anation and he never responded except to say the po*ice do identify themse*ves. I am being sincere here. He te**s someone who thinks he was being cased to ca** the cops. Given the concern I was shown after a guy beat on my door and then threatened my friend and I with a gun--shit the comma key isn't working either-- I wou*d think the 77 wou*d *augh at a ca** about a might have been mugging.
    Anyone know anything about fixing computer keyboards?
  • Man, that was painful. Funny, but painful. I advocate something like this:
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    Try cleaning it out real good. If it is a cheap keyboard anyway, then just replace it.
  • No I didn't expect tupperware parties and stoop sa*es. I moved here from Bed-Stuy where I *ived for seven years and had very good experiences with the 79. That is why I find my experiences with the 77 so discomfiting. I *ived in Park S*ope years ago and that is the on*y neighborhood where I was fo**owed home from the train or threatened direct*y in any way.
    So what woud the po*ice have said if Daver had ca**ed to report a kid on a bike and two on foot? If the cops can't take a menacing drunk off the street what cou*d they possiby do about a near-mugging? Why get on everyone about ca**ing when the response is so *ame. Isn't there such a thing as a drunk tank? I don't know...that's why I'm asking.
    Thanks for c*earing up the snitching thing. That does make me fee* a *itte better.
    I do be*ieve it's a staffing and a sa*ary issue fundamenta**y. I wasn't *ooking for hand-ho*ding but a report or at *east a note woud have been nice. By the way the guy didn't *ook "shady" or seem so unti* he opened his mouth. Haven't seen him before or since so hopefu**y that was the *ast of it.
  • I don't live here but I've been working in CH for ~25 years, many times at night. Things are definitely better than it used to be. But I have to say, crime can and does happen anywhere. Fortunately, I have never been the victim of a face-to-face crime in CH (burglary only) maybe because I look (and act) like a cop.

    A few facts:
    You must be alert and use common sense.
    You have to learn to spot trouble like DAVER did.
    Women of any color are always at a disadvantage.
    Where there is alcohol > trouble follows.
    Good things don't happen at 3AM.

    Calling 911 (not the precinct) to report suspicious activity is the correct thing to do. Calling the precinct can actually delay response as the precinct MUST enter the "job" into the 911 system by calling it in to 911 themselves.

    A single report may not solve anything, but several reports about the same activity or persons are quickly put together to solve crimes and detect patterns. It may not help the first victim, but it definitley helps the next person. Accurate descriptions are key. "Bluejeans, sneakers and a baseball cap" does not adequately describe a criminal because so many people are dressed that way. Always try to identify a particular unusual feature of the suspected criminal.

    Street criminal are stupid for the most part, and they don't stray too far from where they commit their crimes. The police may not always seem pleasant, but they do make plenty of arrests.

    In defense of the 77 PCT, I must say they do a much better job here in CH than where I live in Queens. They respond much quicker and actually seem to give a s**t.
  • Let me guess: You live in the 114.

    Sorry I had to snipe here. That precinct was AWFUL. Plenty of staffing but full of cops who just didn't give a shit with the worst attitude towards DV victims. (I kid you not, when I would try to file a complaint, the cops would say, "What did you DO to him?" as if he was somehow justified in stalking me and I was in the wrong.) And for other things, forget it. They just don't bother to do their damn jobs which is why Homeland Security came down hard on them a couple of years ago.

    I have yet to have any experience with the 77 good or bad so I will reserve judgment. Well, I've asked a cop or two for directions and they've been polite.
  • Why do you feel the need to "call me out"? I have no problems answering any questions directed towards me, but like I said I don't monitor the board 24 hours a day. As for you calling the Police I'm not knocking you, just realize what you experienced is Harassment,(an offense only arrestable if comitted in an Officers presence). Also there is no Drunk Tank, the protocol for someone who is unable to care for themself, is to call for an Ambulance. Being drunk coupled with being an asshole is not a Crime, otherwise half the guys in your local bar would be in jail.
  • lilbangladesh wrote: Let me guess: You live in the 114.

    Sorry I had to snipe here. That precinct was AWFUL. Plenty of staffing but full of cops who just didn't give a shit with the worst attitude towards DV victims. (I kid you not, when I would try to file a complaint, the cops would say, "What did you DO to him?" as if he was somehow justified in stalking me and I was in the wrong.) And for other things, forget it. They just don't bother to do their damn jobs which is why Homeland Security came down hard on them a couple of years ago.

    I have yet to have any experience with the 77 good or bad so I will reserve judgment. Well, I've asked a cop or two for directions and they've been polite.
    If you have a complaint regarding DV you should contact the DA's office. Ms. Saadia Adossa is the community relations person for the 77. Her number is 718-250-3370. The DA takes DV very serious because he grew up in that mess. Also she might be able to help with the issue of the rude cops.
  • [quote="lilbangladesh"]Let me guess: You live in the 114.

    I live in the 104
  • Lucille,

    I went to the Lefferts Manor Association meeting this morning, and Inspector Frank Vega from the 71st Precinct (among several other public service announcements) mentioned a number to call regarding any concerns of guns on the street:

    NYPD GUN STOP PROGRAM
    (866)GUN-STOP
    A reward program similar to Crime Stoppers provides up to $1,000 for anonymous information to the GUN-STOP (1-866-GUN-STOP) hotline that leads to the arrest of an individual in possession of an illegal weapon.

    KWAC mentioned that many callers to the main line report a "gun" just to get faster response, so perhaps calling the line specifically set up to investigate illegal guns on the street might better result in a response where they investigate the person (from then forward) for potential possession of an illegal firearm.

    Just thought I'd pass this along, good luck.
  • g*ad to have the info Jeffrey. I do have it and know it. I am at my wit's end in terms of finding a way to get the po*ice to stop treating citizens *ike idiots. Sorry-- my * as in *ike key and my comma-- as in pause key-- are not working.
    Thanks for the input. I'm actua**y thinking that prayer and church might he*p. And that takes a *ot for me. But goshdarnitt it seems to be the on*y way.
    Peace to you a**.
  • Thanks, Guest. That was some useful information. I couldn't get any help while I lived in Queens because the general opinion was that it wasn't DV until he actually hit me and I left before that could happen. They really don't know how to deal with someone who's actually proactive about that sort of thing. I saw the writing on the wall, got out before violence could occur and ended up getting stalked for four years because the guy knew he could get away with it, he could completely destroy my life and nothing would be done towards him so long as he didn't hit me.

    Anyway, I finally have a clean slate so I'm hoping that I won't ever need the info you gave me. It seems that the Brooklyn DA takes DV much more seriously than the Queens DA. I'm hoping I will never need the help of the Brooklyn DA's office, but it reassuring to know that DV is taken seriously.
  • The Gun-Stop info is given at every Community Counci* Precinct Meeting. And we a** are to*d time and time again to ca** 911 and 311. We are doing this. Give it up cops. You just are not responding.
    A friend of mine whose father is high up in the NYPD to*d me that the cops took 45 minutes to reach his house after a ca** and they were one ha*f b*ock from the 77th precinct. What gives?
  • Why don't you and bangledesh take the Police test and show the rest us of us what fine officers you'll be!
  • Let's see, if I didn't bother to show up or do my job like I and Lucille had experienced with cops, then not only would I have no job, I wouldn't have a career because I'd be blacklisted EVERYWHERE!!

    Besides, I'm over the age limit. Is it too much to expect that with the taxes we pay, that cops actually DO their jobs?

    Oh no, cops NEVER do wrong. *sarcasm*
  • Unfortunatley the taxes you pay aren't going towards Police Officers salaries. Did you notice theres alot less Police on the street lately? Have you see empty Police cars parked on the side of the Highway? Did you notice it takes an awfully long time for Cops to respond after calling 911? How about the fact that every day a kid is being shot or killed in the City? Sooner a later this crisis will hit home? I'm willing to bet you and Lucille won't stick around too see it.
  • I Hope your whining comment is directed towards the ladies Missy!
  • I wanted to respond to the people who were talking about cell phoning cops when in danger of being mugged, then got caught up in the messages from people on the usefulness/uselessness of cops who responded.

    What might be a good idea is just to call a smart friend on your cell when you're in that situation. Tell where you are, and maybe they can either call the cops or call some more of your friends, preferably tall ones who weigh over 200 pounds.

    That way, at least your friends will know where you are and that you're in trouble. This is may be more help to you than having the cops know where you are.
  • I don't think calling your friends in Maine is gonna help while getting mugged. Also don't bury your head in your cell phone and tune the world out with your Ipod. That makes you a bigger target!
  • Subject: another mugging on classon

    A male friend and I (also male) were doing the right thing and walking a single female friend to the bus stop on Classon & Sterling. She got on the bus just fine, so we turned around to walk back to our place on Franklin Ave. We turned onto Sterling and it seemed clear that four guys were following us, so we crossed the street trying to get away from them. But one of them had run ahead and headed us off on the other side of the street. He flashed a small knife and asked for our stuff (wallets, phone, etc). They were black male teenagers, 17ish. Oddly, they took my friend's phone and wallet, but tossed his phone back at him. They took my phone, but fortunately I wasn't carrying a wallet. We've reported this incident to the police but clearly the area on Classon between St Johns and Sterling is a bad spot.

    This the day after 4 males entered the top floor unit of our building while a resident was home. They bound his hands, blindfolded him, and took computers, etc. Bars are installed on the fire escape window, but they entered through an open window adjacent to the fire escape. A little gymnastics involved, but nothing too difficult.
  • KWAC, I have been writing to the Bloomberg administration about the stupidity of police salaries. I know that's definitely a big reason why policing is so poor in this city.

    I mean, really, to offer new cops a beginning salary equal to that of a part-time proofreader is a travesty, especially since they face far more threat to life and limb than is offered by misplaced commas.

    That said, as LONGTIME NYC residents, Lucille and I have noticed an attitude that inhibits proper policing as well, though from my experience in other cities, I would say this is not unique to NYC alone.

    The police are part of the public trust. Since they agreed to do this job, they are under the OBLIGATION to do it as well as they can. If they think a poor salary can justify being half-assed about it, then they should have found a different job where being half-assed wouldn't cost someone their life.

    If you want to petition the Bloomberg administration for better salary for cops, KWAC, I will sign it as I am in total agreement with you there. You cannot expect top performance and top policemen by not paying the prevailing regional wage. Paying anything less is a recipe for disaster. But *I* didn't set this stupid policy and *I* never supported it, so to blame ME for the poor performance of the 77 is stupid, though typical of your reasoning.
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