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lame B'klyn Papers article about lesbians and park slope... — Brooklynian

lame B'klyn Papers article about lesbians and park slope...

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  • yavel
    yavel
    What about gay people who choose to raise families here? Btw, one of my son's friends has two lesbian moms, and they happen to push a stroller that is bigger and more pimped out than mine. I find it really obnoxious when people move here and want everyone else to live exactly as they do. :roll:
  • tony mei
    tony mei
    I'm more scared about SmartMom breastfeeding :lol:
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    I'd just like to point out that I had NOTHING to do with the Brooklyn Record using one of my pics to illustrate their post about this -- they must have just found it while surfing around Flickr!
  • erikka
    erikka
    Can someone use your flickr photos without your consent? That doesn't seem legal...especially hooking it to such a crap story.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    erikka wrote: Can someone use your flickr photos without your consent? That doesn't seem legal...especially hooking it to such a crap story.
    Yup. My photos have a Creative Commons license which allows people to use my pics as long as they credit me, which the Brooklyn Record did. I don't really mind that they used it at all -- just wanted to clarify that I wasn't involved beyond that.
  • erikka
    erikka
    apollonia666 wrote: [quote=erikka]Can someone use your flickr photos without your consent? That doesn't seem legal...especially hooking it to such a crap story.
    Yup. My photos have a Creative Commons license which allows people to use my pics as long as they credit me, which the Brooklyn Record did. I don't really mind that they used it at all -- just wanted to clarify that I wasn't involved beyond that.

    Can that be turned off or is it automatic when you post your pictures on flickr?
  • anonymous
    anonymous
    "“There used to be a sense of diversity that isn’t there anymore,” she added. “You can walk around Windsor Terrace and Kensington and see a Hassid next to a woman in hijab next to a Jamaican kid. You can be who you are in that mix of people.”

    Realtors who specialize in serving the lesbian community agree that the shift out of Park Slope speaks to an increased preference for diverse, multicultural communities.

    “People aren’t looking for ghettos, whether it be gay, black or white anymore,” said David Rittenberg, a broker with Prudential Douglas Elliman. “They want a bigger mix of people.”
    As a resident of Kensington/Windsor Terrace, I can say we definitly have more diversity here and both of our coffee shops are owned by lesbian couples and many of the mothers in my kids' playgroup are lesbian mothers. So it seems the lesbian mothers must be moving here where they can (or once could) afford a house or coop.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    erikka wrote: [quote=apollonia666][quote=erikka]Can someone use your flickr photos without your consent? That doesn't seem legal...especially hooking it to such a crap story.
    Yup. My photos have a Creative Commons license which allows people to use my pics as long as they credit me, which the Brooklyn Record did. I don't really mind that they used it at all -- just wanted to clarify that I wasn't involved beyond that.

    Can that be turned off or is it automatic when you post your pictures on flickr?

    I've got it set up as a default so that all photos I upload automatically get the type of Creative Commons license I selected, and the info for that is on each photo's page, but you can also select a different type of license for individual photos. I do most of mine with an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike license, which means others are free to copy, distribute, or display my photos and even alter them if they want, but they have to give me credit, can't use it for commercial purposes, and if they do alter it in any way they can only distribute what they make under the same type of license. But there are several types of licenses, so you can choose something you're comfortable with.

    It's cool. I've had a couple of photos used by blogs, like the Brooklyn Record thing, and a few other neat things have happened, like I have a photo that's being printed in a poetry anthology (the publisher contacted me and got my permission first), on a cd's liner notes (also gave permission for that), and on a couple of bands' websites (same deal -- they asked me first).

    Here is Flickr's info on setting up a default license for your photos.

    Here is a description of the various types of Creative Commons licenses.
  • linusvanpelt
    linusvanpelt
    Sad. It's like the Elves leaving Middle Earth.
  • steve
    steve
    linusvanpelt wrote: Sad. It's like the Elves leaving Middle Earth.
    that's really the funniest thing I've ever heard.
  • miriam
    miriam
    I was soooo happy when I moved here (5 years ago) that I can say I live in Dyke Slope. What now?
    But - is it really true that lesbians are moving out in huge numbers? I see a lot of dykes on 7th and 5th avenues all the time (happy to report!). Are they here just to visit?

    Do people agree with the tone of the article?????
  • pitu
    pitu
    Miriam, I see lesbians too . . .
    :D
    I think the article is lame lame lame
    I'd be interested to know real demographics

    My anecdotal information is a bunch of smart/lucky women bought here in the 70s, 80s, 90s and they're not going anywhere . . . plus I still know lots of dykes who rent in the neighborhood. One friend just moved here from Crown Heights last year...

    And Ginger's is not a neighborhood institution or the oldest gay bar in Brooklyn.
  • anonymous
    anonymous
    That article is ridiculous! What about all the lesbian moms in park Slope? there are TONS of them! To imply that lesbians are moving out of the slope is outrageous. I can count 8 lesbian couples with kids that I personally know.

    Oh, and when did Ginger's become a Park Slope institution? how long has it been around? 6 years?
  • steve
    steve
    what was it called before Gingers? Carrie Nation? Is that what the author is referring to?
  • pitu
    pitu
    steve wrote: what was it called before Gingers? Carrie Nation? Is that what the author is referring to?
    hey, good memory!
    It *was* Carrie Nation, which if memory serves was owned by a straight couple but had mostly a lesbian/gay clientele. Then one of the owners of The Rising Cafe bought it, renaming to Ginger's.

    btw
    I think it's a community/population not most accurately assessed by bars.
  • rose
    rose
    I think there are plenty of lesbians raising kids in Park Slope. What I think has happened is that as Park Slope has become more expensive, fewer young people (in their 20s) can afford to live here and therefore you see fewer people (of all orientations) making out in the street the way youngsters do. It looks like there are fewer lesbians because instead of making out with each other on 7th Avenue or hanging out in bars, they are pushing strollers and going to PTA meetings.

    That's my theory anyway. :)
  • pitu
    pitu
    Rose wrote: because instead of making out with each other on 7th Avenue or hanging out in bars, they are pushing strollers and going to PTA meetings.
    or running their businesses or doing their coop shifts . . .
    :D
  • rose
    rose
    Yeah, that too, but those activities don't preclude you from canoodling on the street the same way that having a kid does. :)
  • rapture
    rapture
    Don't know about anyone else, but I am here in Park Slope! :)
    Been here for 9 years with my life partner and our almost all grown "kids" :)
  • 8thandprez
    8thandprez
    God, what an obnoxious article. I don't know why, but it really annoyed me.

    Actually, I do know why. Articles like this usually go on to fault the gay men for the skyrocketing prices. Ok, this article doesn't do that... maybe I'm ok now. Whew.
  • anonymous
    anonymous
    here my problem with the whole thing:

    One emigrating lesbian is quoted in the article as saying that she's moving out of Park Slope because the neighborhood has changed since she moved in around 1999. 1999! As if this neighborhood was some uncharted territory as recently as 7 years ago; as if she's entitled to lament the passing of some purer era! Give me a break. Like most of us, she helped "change" the neighborhood by moving in. Now she complains that the neighborhood continues to "change." Tsk, tsk: turnabout is fair play.
  • vanilla
    vanilla
    the title of the curbed article is amazingly funny - but, is this article supposed to be serious?
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