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Buyers remorse — Brooklynian

Buyers remorse

I live in a brownstone near dean and kinston. My neighbors consist of teachers, professors, principals, actors, officers, journalist. retirees, general contractors, mta workers etc. The owners live in about 95% of the properties. Then why do I not see more of an improvement in the neighborhood? Now that my child is getting closer to school age I'm thinking about selling. do you think i waited to long to sell?

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  • I may be a bit ignorant due to the fact that I've only been in the neighborhood a couple months, but I think that block looks really nice. Granted the buildings closer to Kingston feel a bit bare and in need of some paint and some trees along the road - but in general I never thought it that bad.

    You could, of course, be talking about the delis and shops along Kingston - which I'm not very familiar with myself. However, I'm willing to guess that those who own/run these shops don't live in the immediate neighborhood. I have found that if people avoid shopping in delis that don't appear to be up to their standards - the deli owners tend not to feel they can foot the money for improvements.

    I'm of the philosophy that people should shop as close to home as possible to improve upon their immediate neighborhood.
  • You don't see more of an improvement because even though your neighbors own their own properties they do little to nothing to hold others to a higher standard. There is behavior that exists in this neighborhood that is just appaling and those of us who own here look the other way or shield our kids eyes and just walk by. Nothing will change if we don't demand a higher standard of behavior from out neighbors.

    Last week I came home in the evening with my child as as we were walking in the house I heard/saw a couple arguing with one another. It was the early evening so the street was full of kids playing, guys hanging out and people coming home from work. The arguement escalated until the guy grabbed his girl about the head and started flinging her around like a rag doll. Everyone just stood around looking. What made it even worse was the girl had a couple of small kids with her. Finally, I went across the street and asked him to leave her alone and let her leave. I pointed out the cops were around the corner and if they intervened all of them might end up jailed or in custody by the end of the night. His response "I don't give a damn, let them take all these kids away."

    After I intervened the girl's friends started drifting over trying to get her to go home. Then some older ladies came out (her mother? his mother? grandmothers? who knows...) and tried to shoo them away. But they had been out there at least ten minutes before I went over. If I hadn't intervened would he have just been allowed to beat her in the street? Granted that's an extreme example, but there's enough little stuff that goes on that we don't check one another on (cars pulling up in the street with music blaring, folks not picking up trash, sitting on one another's cars, etc) that effect the feel and fabric of the neighborhood.

    There is definitely almost a peer pressure that exists in the neighborhood both positive and negative. Once we start saying that certain behavior is not acceptable, you've be surprised how the neighborhood will change.
  • I'm wondering if posting a note in my building to please not leave food wrappers on the stairwells because they might attract bugs would do any good.

    I suppose it would be worth a try.
  • have you thought about kingsengton(sp?) anyway its about pretty cheap and safe. okay schools full of immigrants.
  • armchair warrior, your post has me flummoxed.
    i think homeowner's description is a very good picture of when it's good to pick up the phone and call 911, although I do advocate the use of personal force and forbearance when appropriate. homeowner seems to have used his presence in a positive way, however frustrating the results. I just don't get you post, armchair.
  • From personal experience, cops don't seem to give a crap about DV incidents.

    But then, it might just vary by precinct. The 114 was AWFUL in dealing with DV. How's the 77?
  • most people move into some area's thinking it will change. i'm saying kengsington is slighty better area to raise kids and safer. and has growing amenities. since its next to windsor terrace. hell they have 3 thai restaurants.
  • Perhaps, but part of the reason why I didn't want to move to Kensington is that it is really hard to get groceries.
  • Flip side of this subject...

    Early this morning (about 5am) a couple of guys stopped under my bedroom window and started having a verrrry loud conversation. Loud enough that they woke me up. A few minutes later they were joined by another friend. For ten minutes they stood talking to each other all the time getting louder and louder. Then they started with the chirping Nextels. I got up out of bed and walked outside. As soon as I got to my gate they said "Were we being loud? Sorry, we'll move down the block." They then grabbed their cups off of the car and started down the street, all the time apologizing. No dirty looks, no cursing, nothing. That would never have happened four years ago when I moved on the block.

    Now that's progress.
  • lilbangladesh wrote: Perhaps, but part of the reason why I didn't want to move to Kensington is that it is really hard to get groceries.
    there is supermarket there. alot of small grocery stores. got fruit stands and other things in the hood that ch or bed sty doesnt have.
  • Homeowner, that used to happen to me ALL THE TIME in Astoria, but if you asked them to quiet down, they would yell and curse at you and threaten to break into your house. I stopped telling people to be quiet and started dialing 311 instead.

    At least here, people have acquired some manners.
  • OP, I live about 2 1/2 blocks from you, on Pacific. I'm curious about what you are expecting to change. Are you talking about the retail prospects on Kingston, or just the general flavor of your residential area?

    Unfortunately, on the retail end, they say it takes 15 years for commercial businesses to catch up with residential needs, as most merchants do not want to be the newbies on the block catering to a different crowd. Too much money involved, too much to lose, unless it's a sure thing. I wish that was different, and I wish I could afford to be that first pioneer, but I just don't have the capital. I'm always interested in talking to anyone who wants to pool resources, or at least entertain some ideas. What's good for the neighborhood can be very good for us.

    Short of that, someday, someone will, and I guess just we just have to wait. If you want changes from the people on the block, that's another story. Nothing comes without getting involved. You may have to be the one who starts or revives a block association. Join the folks at CHNA (Crown Heights North Association), find like minded neighbors, and start with small changes, like a monthy block sweepdown on a Saturday, or something like that.

    You live on a beautiful block. If you truly feel its worth fighting for, you are going to have to fight. I think this is true for almost anywhere you choose to live.
  • OP We have revived our block association and slowly but surely we are making changes. I guess with all the shootings that happened this summer with no arrest coupled with the shortage of police. I just don't feel safe. I don't see that changing anytime soon with the lack of man power. I guess I also was hoping to see some changes on Kingston ave.
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