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Election 2008: So is Barrack Obama finished? - Page 18 — Brooklynian

Election 2008: So is Barrack Obama finished?

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  • daver
    daver
    Boygabriel wrote: Are we still talking about this?
    Yes sweetie.
    Isn't there a war happening?
    Uh-huh sugar cakes.
    What's McCain's plan for Sadr City?
    Um... Finish the wall? Didn't he say that he had a new four year plan that would have us out of there by the end of his first term? :lol: *guffaw*
  • jeffrey
    jeffrey
    Amusing boot camp, this.

    Personally, I'm waiting for "Dudegate."
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    daver wrote: [quote=Boygabriel]Are we still talking about this?
    Yes sweetie.
    Isn't there a war happening?
    Uh-huh sugar cakes.
    What's McCain's plan for Sadr City?
    Um... Finish the wall? Didn't he say that he had a new four year plan that would have us out of there by the end of his first term? :lol: *guffaw*

    : : insert Mel Gibson joke here : :
  • doctorj
    doctorj
    Finally, some serious debate...



  • carnivore
    carnivore
    I love that clip doctorj. Have you seen the full version? That schmuck was blustering out of his asshole for several minutes before Chris Matthews confronted him with the fact that he didn't know what he was talking about.

  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    doctorj wrote: Finally, some serious debate...




    That exchange is crazy! and hilarious.
  • alafairnadia
    alafairnadia
    this is paining my soul. "his policies energized, and energized, and energized legitimized .." WTF.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Here's the full interview from the Chris Matthews show. The clip is even better in context.



    Blustering idiot.
  • daver
    daver
    Who is the guy on the Chris Matthews clip?

    (So's I can search it somewhere other than youtube...)

    Thx.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    daver wrote: Who is the guy on the Chris Matthews clip?

    (So's I can search it somewhere other than youtube...)

    Thx.
    radio host Kevin James
  • doctorj
    doctorj
    Kevin James, a previously obscure right wing radio jock. Unfortunately he's still got a few minutes left on his 15 minutes of fame.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Jinx!
  • alafairnadia
    alafairnadia
    doctorj wrote: Kevin James, a previously obscure right wing radio jock. Unfortunately he's still got a few minutes left on his 15 minutes of fame.
    please tell me the last few minutes involve his involvement in either a:

    1. prostitution ring - man on man;
    2. conservative faux-xian church that hates everyone and thus wife swaps; or
    3. super seekrit love of chewbacca. for reals.

    thanks.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
  • daver
    daver
    P.S. I forgot to post back about the Kevin James stuff, thanks for the info. I found it elsewhere, and that there was some funny assed shit, I tell you. The best line was from Mark Green, "Kevin, when you are in a hole, stop digging."
  • daver
    daver
    In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

    As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of new voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

    The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

    "That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right?" Kass said. "It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race he made sure voters had just one choice."
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    Interesting.

    I wonder if those Chicago opponents agreed to the rules before the election started the same way Hillary and every other Democrat agreed on the punishment of FL & MI.
  • daver
    daver
    Boygabriel wrote: Interesting.

    I wonder if those Chicago opponents agreed to the rules before the election started the same way Hillary and every other Democrat agreed on the punishment of FL & MI.
    It probably wasn't exactly the same, but I imagine that they were aware of the rules regarding the gathering of petitions prior to the gathering of signatures. Or they _should_ have been. *shrug*

    This is the point that is trying to be made:
    He said they have bought into a narrative that Obama is strictly a reformer. When the truth, Kass says, is he is a bare-knuckled politician. And using the rules to win his first office is part of who Obama is.

    "It's not the tactics of 'let's all people come together and put your best ideas forward and the best ideas win,' " Kass said. "That's the spin, that's in the Kool-Aid. You can have some. Any flavor. But the real deal was get rid of Alice Palmer.

    "There are those who think that registering people to vote and getting them involved in politics and then using this tactic in terms of denying Alice Palmer the right to compete, that these things are inconsistent. And guess what? They are. They are inconsistent. But that's the politics he plays."
    Unfair accusations? The Obama camp thinks so:
    The Obama campaign called this report "a hit job." They insisted CNN talk to a state representative who supports Obama, because, according to an Obama spokesman, she would be objective. But when we called her she said she can't recall details of petition challenges, who engineered them for the Obama campaign or why all the candidates were challenged.
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    59% of Americans support high level negotiations with our 'enemies' such as Iran.
    Large majorities of Democrats and independents, and even half of Republicans, believe the president of the United States should meet with the leaders of countries that are considered enemies of the United States. Overall, 67% of Americans say this kind of diplomacy is a good idea. […]

    Although separate Gallup polling shows that few Americans view Iran favorably, and that Iran leads Americans’ list of top U.S. enemies in the world, the new Gallup survey also finds high public support for presidential-level meetings between the United States and Iran, specifically.

    About 6 in 10 Americans (59%) think it would be a good idea for the president of the United States to meet with the president of Iran…. [M]ajorities of men, women, younger and older Americans, and those from different regions of the country all [say] direct presidential-level talks with Iran and other enemies are a good idea.
    Then we have John McSame, arguing that we should continue Bush's policies that have so far resulted in:

    "Iran has dramatically expanded its nuclear program, going from zero centrifuges to more than 3000 centrifuges. During the Bush Administration, Iran has expanded its influence throughout a vitally important region, plying Hamas and Hezbollah with money and arms. During the Bush Administration, Hamas took over Gaza. Most importantly, the war in Iraq that John McCain supported and promises to continue indefinitely has done more to dramatically strengthen and embolden Iran than anything in a generation.”
  • daver
    daver
    The fist bump butt slap.

    http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/obama_tush_touch.html

    Although there is some controversy regarding whether it was a full butt slap or not. The angle is bad for a definitive call, methinks.

    :mrgreen:
  • alafairnadia
    alafairnadia
    looks like a pat to me. not the full on NFL whap.
  • daver
    daver
    alafairnadia wrote: looks like a pat to me. not the full on NFL whap.
    Yah, it was really weak. He'll need to practice that if he wants to play with the big boys.

    Here is Barney Frank demonstrating the proper way to really get in there (with Mike Evans.)
    image
  • jeffrey
    jeffrey
    Re: the Obama video...

    And they were hugging. The horror. What do they think they are, married or something?
  • daver
    daver
    jeffrey wrote: Re: the Obama video...

    And they were hugging. The horror. What do they think they are, married or something?
    We need more hugs like this:
    image

    Al Gore. Now _that_ guy knew how to get it on:
    image
    image
    No fist bump butt slap crap there, I tell ya!

    What do you think would happen if Obama pulled that one?
  • jeffrey
    jeffrey
    The sad thing is, all this really needs the right kind of music.
  • daver
    daver
    jeffrey wrote: The sad thing is, all this really needs the right kind of music.
    Bow Chicka Wow Wow?

    Isaac Hayes?

    Chef???

    /me looks at Al Gore pics again.

    Journey: Don't Stop Believing
    (Hold on, to that feeee-leeeee-eeeeee-ingggg.)
  • jeffrey
    jeffrey
    Or Barry.
  • daver
    daver
    jeffrey wrote: Or Barry.
    ...Hussein Obama?

    Or Barry Manilow?

    Actually, my proper response is Doh! I meant to say Barry on the Isaac Hayes line since I was citing Chef anyhow.

    Curses. Foiled again.
  • pithanon
    pithanon
    Does Barrack still has a shot at being the 2008 Democratic nominee?

    No...but then my judgement is clouded by my fixation upon the visual metaphor and oracle-like properties I perceive in daver's avatar.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    The Fox interpretation of Obama's fist bump: "a terrorist fist jab."



    They have absolutely no shame.
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