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I'm going to complain about the G for a second — Brooklynian

I'm going to complain about the G for a second

Subject: I'm going to complain about the G for a second

MONDAY- I'm on my way home from the city packed FULL of groceries via the L. I'm trudging down to the G train and I wait and wait and wait (about 12 minutes or so, not bad but it WAS rush hourish!) And a train pulls up! Yipppee! I get on it..only to be told that OOPS due to an "incident" there is no G service right now in either direction. I exit the platform and as a super helpful MTA employee whats going on and the conversation went a little like this:
Me- Do you know whats going on with the G?
MTA- No g service (mumbles)
Me- Do you know when it'll be up>
Mta- No g service (now walking away)
Me- Is there a shuttle? Can you suggest any way for me to get home?
Mta- I SAID THERE'S NO G SERVICE


THANKS! So I get outside and low and behold its about to pour so I have to spend $12 to get home after spending $2 and about 30 minutes trying to figure out another way home (on my own, of course, with no help form the MTA.)

TUESDAY- I take the G to lormier to meet a friend. I then attempt to take the G home at 10:45. PLEASE NOTE that the service changes arnt supposed to be in effect until 11 and I literally RAN to the broadway stop to make it before. OH WAIT- they had it sectioned off early! GO FIGURE. I wait and wait and wait and 45 minutes (45 MINUTES!) later a smith bound train comes. 45 MINUTES.

TODAY- I get on the train to go to fulton at around 4:30 after waiting 18 minutes (I timed!) We make it to classon...and the train stops. And it sits there. For about 5 minutes. And then they tell us to get out. So we get out. And it sits there for another 8 or so minutes and they announce another train is "coming." Sits for another 8 or so minutes and then finally pulls away and we all pack on the train. WTF. IT TOOK ME 35 minutes to get to Fulton. 35 minutes!!!


We G riders pay the same fare as everyone else, how come our service is SO CRAPPY?! I try to defend this train but let me tell you, this week its running thin on me.


Ok now I feel better. Carry on.

Comments

  • The G train sucks. As the only subway line that doesn't go into Manhattan (not counting the Franklin Ave shuttle, which the MTA actually shut down in the 80s), it never gets the kind of ridership or resources that the rest of the system gets. It also lost half its capacity when the V train was introduced.

    This is an excerpt from the wiki article on the G train:
    Wikipedia wrote: Controversy
    The introduction of the V service in 2001 added nine additional peak-hour trains coming into Manhattan on the IND Queens Boulevard Line.[4] However, to make room for the V train on Queens Boulevard, the G train was cut back to a new weekday terminal at Court Square. In the original plan, Court Square was to have been the G train's full-time northern terminal.

    The service plan was designed to redistribute Queens-bound passenger loads in the heavily-used IND Sixth Av corridor, and to improve service and transfer opportunities for passengers using local stations along Queens Blvd, particularly by providing passengers at local stations direct service to the 6th Avenue line. The New York Times described the service plan as "complex and heavily criticized;" several years experience with the service running, however, has shown its value. V trains, while by no means consistently full, have taken some load off the F train, though many riders have complained that the passenger load on the E train has worsened. In response to complaints from G riders who aired them at public hearings (they were about to lose their transfer to Manhattan-bound trains at Queens Plaza), the MTA agreed to a number of concessions. MTA agreed to install an underground moving walkway between Court Square and 23rd Street–Ely Avenue (E V) on the Queens Boulevard Line. In addition, a free out-of-system MetroCard transfer to 45th Road–Court House Square (7 <7>) on the IRT Flushing Line was created at those two stations—one of only two such transfers in the system. The MTA is pursuing other physical improvements to stations in the Long Island City, Queens area.

    The MTA also agreed to extend the G to 71st Avenue during evenings and weekends, and to operate the service more frequently. The authority "had spent several hundred thousand dollars on tests, trying to figure out a way to keep the G train running past the Court Square Station and farther into Queens on weekdays. But because of the addition of the V train, which will share space along the Queens Boulevard lines with the trains already there—the E, F, G, and R trains could not fit during the daytime, when service is heaviest."[5]

    To run more frequently, the G needed more trains, but there were not enough on hand. So the solution was to cut the trains from six cars to four, sticking all the leftover cars together to make extra trains. While on paper this means more trains, it sometimes seems to riders that it means only more of them packed into smaller trains. Some passengers missed trains because they were standing at the wrong part of the platform

    And, more importantly for explaining the G-train sprint, it means that on a platform designed to be filled by an eight-car, 600-foot train, the ones that show up now are only 300 feet long. Back in December, when the change was first made, paper signs were posted on platform columns to let riders know where these truncated trains would stop. But the signs are gone now and for people unfamiliar with the line, the wind sprints have begun.[6]

    G train riders made the restoration of service an issue in the 2002 New York gubernatorial race, but the transit authority said, "Unfortunately, putting the G back to full service is just not an option, given our track capacity—and that's not likely to change."[7]

    G train riders have also lobbied for the creation of a second free out-of-system transfer between the Broadway station and Hewes Street on the BMT Jamaica Line, which is only two blocks away. However, the MTA said, "We have no intention of making that a permanent free transfer."[8]

    Most of the stations along the G train's route were built with multiple exits to the street. Over the years, many of the lower-use exits were closed (as they were in other parts of the subway system), as the city was concerned that they were a magnet for criminals, and there was insufficient traffic to justify staffing them full-time. But in July 2005, in response to community pressure, the MTA agreed to re-open the South Portland Avenue exit of the Fulton Street station. The New York Times described it as a "minor victory" for "a maligned line."[9]

    During construction on the Queens Boulevard Line, the G train frequently terminates at Court Square, even at times when the published timetable says that it runs to 71st Avenue. Some riders "are suspicious that the service disruptions are simply a de facto way to implement the original plan of halving G train service." However, an MTA spokesman says that "It's not personal…. If you want to keep the system up to date, you need to make sure the track and switching are all in good repair."[10]. Since Spring 2007, weekend G service has been cut back to Court Square on weekends "until further notice".[1]

    A community group, Save the G!, has regularly lobbied the MTA for more G train service since the original cutbacks when the V train was introduced in 2001.
  • ^yeah I've read that article in wiki.

    I dont think they realize that even the economy around the G suffers- I have lots of friends who would NEVER move off of the G, and another bunch who refuse to even visit me because its such a pain in the ass. I've always tried to be a champion of this line as I live ON TOP OF IT but now that I'm not working in the city and I purchase a per-ride metrocard, it's really pissing me off. I am PAYING for these half-assed trips.

    sogjdoihnfspon


    sorry, its making me really grumpy
  • I think a lot of it depends on when you take it; I take the G in the morning during rush hour, to connect to the 7 and get into work, and I rarely have a problem -- it's fast, it's regular, I always get a seat. I've heard of big problems happening on weekends and outside of "rush hour" hours.

    But I think that kind of thing happens with every line, where the service is good during rush hour and then sucks the rest of the day.
  • It's so weird because I live by the G at Classon and i have never had a major problem with it. i even take the G to the L and the L to the G (one time i just missed a G train and the next one came within 8 minutes) and it was on a weekend. I keep hearing about how bad it is, but it's been nothing but good to me. In fact, for me, it's more reliable than the C (oh how i hate that train).
  • ^give it time. I've been riding it for a year and a half and I said the same thing for about 6 months...I don't know how long you've been riding it but I'm confident that there's a honeymoon period with the g where it lulls you into a false sense of security and then starts messing with you...
  • Subject: G Train

    i agree. if you have never had an issue with the g, you are either the luckiest person in the neighborhood but just wait, your time will come. i must agree on all levels that the g sucks. as a regular rider (morning rush and evening rush) i must admit it is the stinkiest line in the city. i suggest writing to your assemblyperson (mine is Letitia James who I wrote a strong letter to after attending a MTA-sponsored transportation forum meeting in ft. green recently where it was nothing more than bitching about the fact that some woman in some bed-sty projects does not have a shelter to wait for her bus in the rain - g train issues never really discussed) anyway - she called me directly since i charged her (and all legislators) to fix the problems & issues on the g train since i am

    a) a taxpayer

    and

    b) i vote

    that got her attention!
  • MTA SUCKS!
  • Ever since I moved off the G line, I gained weight! I think this is because I

    1. walk less. I used to walk all the way home to Greenpoint from Bedford ave to avoid waiting around for the G.

    2. never sprint. That short train thing is a bitch!

    All I've got to say is Come to East Bed Stuy! The J train is all right!
  • Anonymous wrote: Ever since I moved off the G line, I gained weight! I think this is because I

    1. walk less. I used to walk all the way home to Greenpoint from Bedford ave to avoid waiting around for the G.

    2. never sprint. That short train thing is a bitch!

    All I've got to say is Come to East Bed Stuy! The J train is all right!
    I have done things in heels that most people would find shocking in order to catch that short train.
  • I have done things in heels that most people would find shocking

    oh man...
  • This post brings up one of my biggest complaints with the MTA: the lack of communication.

    We subway riders understand that construction and/or service interruptions happen. And we're perfectly capable of dealing with them and finding other ways to get home. But you have to let us know about service interruptions and how long they will last.

    Few things make me angrier than waiting on a subway platform for 20 minutes only to find out there's no service at the station, or on the line. Why not just tell me there are service delays? Why make me wait 20 minutes for a downtown train when the truth is that downtown trains aren't coming to the station?

    why wouldn't you just TELL US!?
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