Acceptable rent increase?
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Mine went up almost 30% before I decided to move, and I still ended up paying even more than that.
It all depends on what you can afford, how much you like your current place, how much it would cost you to move, etc.
In most cases, if you don't pay it, they can easily find somebody who will.
If you have a good relationship with the LL, try negotiating if you want to stay -
I assume you're not in a rent-stabilized unit, but for those reading this thread who are stabilized and aren't sure how much their renewal leases can go up, the acceptable percentage increases for this year are on the NYC Rent Guidelines Board's site.
Mary415, you might want to call the Met Council on Housing for advice as well. -
Subject: Re: Acceptable rent increase?
Mary415 wrote: Has anyone had to renew a lease lately? I'm just wondering what an acceptable rent increase is for this area - ours is going up by about 14%. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!
Not sure what you mean by acceptable. If stabilized there are very specific numbers, if not, than isn't that a personal decision, as flexichick wrote? the market will bear what it will bear. Most of the apts in my building have been going up around %25 per lease in the last 2-3 years. -
@ OP - if its a market apt the LL can raise the rent any amount they choose. thats IF they CHOOSE to offer you a renewal at all.
They are not obligated to offer you a renewal if its a market apt.
as far as the % goes thats truly relative.
if youre paying 1600 for a lovely 800 sq ft floor thru in the center slope with a yard then a 14% increase still leaves it well under market and you should be ecstatic.
if on the other hand youre paying 2000 for a 200 sq ft studio with a view of a brickwall , then the increase is ludicrous.
suggest you peruse a few websites to get a better idea of what youre paying compared to similiar apts. -
The whole New York State home renters' and buyers' market is NOT acceptable.
Where are middle class people going to live? I know many middle class people who cannot afford to live in the towns they grew up in throughout the state. -
Subject: rent
I would just pay what the landlord askes at this time within reason of course because if the apt is good with so many people wanting to move to NYC you will be in a dire position looking for a better more affordable apt. -
raw wrote: The whole New York State home renters' and buyers' market is NOT acceptable.
being a renter sucks, because you can't find any place affordable.
Where are middle class people going to live? I know many middle class people who cannot afford to live in the towns they grew up in throughout the state.
now i'm an owner, and there are rent stabilized tenants in our building. one pays less than $200 a month for her apartment, so she costs us money because her rent doesn't pay that apartment's share of building expenses.
there's no winning with this system -
Subject: negotiation
If you have a good relationship with LL, and if you want to stay longer term, you may be able to negotiate 2 year lease with less % of increase of rent each year. It worked for me. But you need to be sure you'd be staying. LL also need a good tenant who pays rent on time and keep place neat.
In a meanplace I totally agree the whole rental (and buying) market in NY is not acceptable... -
brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=raw]The whole New York State home renters' and buyers' market is NOT acceptable.
being a renter sucks, because you can't find any place affordable.
Where are middle class people going to live? I know many middle class people who cannot afford to live in the towns they grew up in throughout the state.
now i'm an owner, and there are rent stabilized tenants in our building. one pays less than $200 a month for her apartment, so she costs us money because her rent doesn't pay that apartment's share of building expenses.
there's no winning with this system
Doesn't the landlord or sponsor pay the rest of her share? I am also an owner in a building where there are 2 rent controlled apartments that pay less than $200 per month rent each (they have been here 30 years and 20 years). but, the shareholders (in this case, the sponsor) who own the apartments pay the full maintenance on them just like everyone else.
So, having them in the building doesn't cost us anything extra. -
LongTimeSloper wrote: [quote=brooklynpotter][quote=raw]The whole New York State home renters' and buyers' market is NOT acceptable.
being a renter sucks, because you can't find any place affordable.
Where are middle class people going to live? I know many middle class people who cannot afford to live in the towns they grew up in throughout the state.
now i'm an owner, and there are rent stabilized tenants in our building. one pays less than $200 a month for her apartment, so she costs us money because her rent doesn't pay that apartment's share of building expenses.
there's no winning with this system
Doesn't the landlord or sponsor pay the rest of her share? I am also an owner in a building where there are 2 rent controlled apartments that pay less than $200 per month rent each (they have been here 30 years and 20 years). but, the shareholders (in this case, the sponsor) who own the apartments pay the full maintenance on them just like everyone else.
So, having them in the building doesn't cost us anything extra.
no sponsor. we own the whole place -
and you didn't know all of this going in to making the biggest buying decision of your life? Just askin' is all.
And I certainly would harbor no ill feelings toward the renters - it's not really their issue. You make them out to be the bad guys. -
brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=LongTimeSloper][quote=brooklynpotter][quote=raw]The whole New York State home renters' and buyers' market is NOT acceptable.
being a renter sucks, because you can't find any place affordable.
Where are middle class people going to live? I know many middle class people who cannot afford to live in the towns they grew up in throughout the state.
now i'm an owner, and there are rent stabilized tenants in our building. one pays less than $200 a month for her apartment, so she costs us money because her rent doesn't pay that apartment's share of building expenses.
there's no winning with this system
Doesn't the landlord or sponsor pay the rest of her share? I am also an owner in a building where there are 2 rent controlled apartments that pay less than $200 per month rent each (they have been here 30 years and 20 years). but, the shareholders (in this case, the sponsor) who own the apartments pay the full maintenance on them just like everyone else.
So, having them in the building doesn't cost us anything extra.
no sponsor. we own the whole place
Are you a co-op or a condo? Our co-op organization owns the entire building too (building is in the co-op organizations name, etc.), but, those 2 particular apartments are still owned by a realtor. I guess somehow, ours is a different situation than yours. -
Livetotravel wrote: and you didn't know all of this going in to making the biggest buying decision of your life? Just askin' is all.
i have no bad feelings towards them at all, and yes, of course i knew this when i bought. but a corporation's finances change over the years and what once wasn't a problem can become one.
And I certainly would harbor no ill feelings toward the renters - it's not really their issue. You make them out to be the bad guys.
all i'm saying is that i see it from both sides: as a former renter trying to keep a roof over my head and still eat meals, and as an owner trying to navigate a broken system. -
Subject: Mine is going up too
My particular problem is this: when we moved in March 06, it was $1500. A steal. 4th and Baltic. The guy who lived there for 6 six years was only paying $1000 when he left. At least that is what he told me. Cut to two years later and the increase is to $1800 for just another year. (It went up to $1600 last year.)
[Back story: we both went through financial hardship, one of us was laid off in September, payments not on time, threat of terminating lease and no renewal. But we're both employed officially in December, we negotiated to have them reconsider our lease and proved our incomes with employment verifications. Our landlord is behind some really big projects in the neighborhood. He wants us to renew with a security deposit (originally we paid only first and last month's rent). We love where we live but if it goes up again next year to $2000, we're looking at over $2400 total becuase we have our own thermostat and our electric bills are high. Is asking for a two year with a security deposit just a ludacrous idea?
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