Gang Grafitti!?! - This is what we need now?
Comments
-
So back to the Graffiti.......There is a large gang population in the confines of the 77 pct. The Gang graffiti has become more prevailent in the past 5 years. I would encourage building/business owners to clean Graffiti immediatley from their property. Also, renters please encourage landlords to remove Graffiti promptly.There appears to be a turf war going on in the Franklin/Classon area.
The City will remove Graffiti free of charge for those who fill out a removal waiver. The waiver can be downloaded at NYC.GOV website under Community Affairs unit.
P.S. Theres a picture of Crip Graffiti on the Flickr photo thing on the top of the page. Maybe the Site Administrator can remove it from rotation -
Excellent idea, KWAC.
As for Guest, I think it would be good to distinguish between what Casepeople is saying and what he or she is quoting. The business about not being allowed to fire a warning shot came straight from the NYPD, via the times.
Also, in general, it's so much more helpful to look at the full picture in any tragic situation. The police would never have been called if the housing authority had bothered to get a supervisor's signature or the psychiatrist hadn't decided that holding knife was an everyday thing.
KWAC, how does one tell which graffitti is what? What's the difference between a simple tag (not that I approve them) and grafitti that marks territory? I've seen lots of prosaic examples of bloods graffitti, i.e., the word "bloods" or something that looks like the name of a unit or a member written in red. Not so much in blue. How does one distinguish?
Does anyone know about the impressive grafitti (how does one spell that word?) on Bergen bet. Rogers and Classon? It's on the side of an auto place. When it first went up, it looked like they'd paid to have someone do it. Now it looks like taggers are marking it up. Haven't stopped to look very closely, usually see it from my car. -
King without a crown wrote: P.S. Theres a picture of Crip Graffiti on the Flickr photo thing on the top of the page. Maybe the Site Administrator can remove it from rotation
That's one of neene's pics. No doubt she means well...but it is kind of icky (to put it mildly) to see it showing up over and over again at the top of this website. -
thanks for the response, king.
-
mr. met wrote: yea, sweet tea, i get that. i mentioned another location with a crips tag, remember?
sorry; i thought it was little red menace asking, because the quote tags got wonky, so i didn't associate it with your earlier comment.
i was just asking if there was anyone knew of any evidence of bloods/crips presence in the neighborhood other than writing on a wall (which anyone could be responsible for).
i still think the answer is yes -- saw an AWFUL lot of blue around on the day tookie williams was executed. also, i'm not sure gangs would be very into letting unaffiliated entrepreneurs dominate the local recreational chemistry market in such a prominent area as ours.
re: gang tags: a few things i know are, look for numbers 5 and 6, also stars with those numbers of points. also, there is an established system of diacritical marks involving up arrows drawn over the initial letter of your group and down arrows drawn over that of your rivals'. those can, of course, easily be applied to any extant signage without need to craft a new message. -
very interesting information. thanks.
how did you come by this information? -
i get around.
(^that makes sense as a joke if you understand that i am a small, nerdy, carolina girl.)
i love language, and i used to hang out with some peripheral members of a rough crowd in chicago. -
Theres several ways to identify Gang Graffiti. We've often seen Bloods draw an X through the letter C when defacing property. Also 6 pointed stars are used with a combination of numbers. Usually this Graffiti is very basic and used to comminicate with other Gang members. It's important to realize that all Graffiti degrades a neighborhood, a neighborhood that allows this on it's buildings usually allows other Quality of Life issues to prevail. The 77 precinct organizes Clean ups, so anyone interested in volunteering to paint,can do so by contacting the Special Operations Lieutenant. For a list of locations already cleaned in Community Board 8, you can Visit the Community Affairs unit website on NYC.GOV and look under location cleaned and locations pending.
I also found this website....http://www.gangsorus.com/graffiti.html -
leet wrote: [quote=King without a crown]P.S. Theres a picture of Crip Graffiti on the Flickr photo thing on the top of the page. Maybe the Site Administrator can remove it from rotation
That's one of neene's pics. No doubt she means well...but it is kind of icky (to put it mildly) to see it showing up over and over again at the top of this website.
I think of that picture in the rotation as an educational public service, same as sweet tea and kwac's detailing what to look for and what it means. -
Thanks Kwac, I didn't know that was possible. I'll try to fill out one of those waivers soon, maybe when the madness that is the holidays at work ends. I tried finding a good site to identify some of the graffiti but didn't have much luck. I checked the website you mentioned but I think I'll give it another shot.
Lucille, thanks for your comment. I just feel that more people need to move past the knee jerk reactions to wanting to change things for the better. Even if you can't figure out a solution, maybe you can reach other people. -
i took the brooklynian tag off that image so it won't be offending anyone any more
that particular flickr is a document of what i have found since i moved to brooklyn
and guess what
that image is a part of it
personally i believe in looking at everything: the good, the bad, the ugly, the ridiculous, the sublime, i could go off on this particular tangent ad nauseum, but this is not the place
suffice to say it was posted in the spirit that pitu cited -
neene wrote: i took the brooklynian tag off that image so it won't be offending anyone any more
Perhaps you could post it in this thread, so people have a visual reference if they are trying to get a handle on gang tags.
that particular flickr is a document of what i have found since i moved to brooklyn
and guess what
that image is a part of it
personally i believe in looking at everything: the good, the bad, the ugly, the ridiculous, the sublime, i could go off on this particular tangent ad nauseum, but this is not the place
suffice to say it was posted in the spirit that pitu cited
I was poking through the Flickr account and didn't find it right away...but here's a Crips tag on Utica Ave posted by RunsWithScissors
I appreciate the education.
edited to add: I know next to nothing about gang tags, and called this Crips because that's how it was id'd in Flickr. -
what distinguishes that as a crips tag? i would think it's a bloods tag b/c of the red wall.
-
Although the Flickr pic might be educational, it gives "props" to these miscreants. I'd rather see positive uplifting pictures from the neighborhood. Theres plenty of websites that identify these Tags and there symbolism.
The red on the background of the picture is part of the wall, and not the tag. That 6 pointed star is a "blood" symbol. If there is any Graffiti that is particularly offensive or causes civil unrest, you may contact Ray Correra at The Community Assistance Unit @ NYC.GOV for immediate removal. -
i realize the red in the background is part of the wall...i just thought it would be strange for a crip to tag a red wall.
sooo...that's a 6-pointed star, which means it IS a bloods tag??? -
for educational purposes only, here's a link to the offending photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81268370@N00/264577998/
as far as uplifting neighborhood snaps, i take my fair share, for example:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=damon%20allen&w=81268370%40N00
as for the rest of my images (that do often appear in the flickr thingy above)
i have a strange idea of beauty sometimes,
but we all know, that lies in the eye of the beholder.
(and i am, btw, fascinated by most forms of visual communication including street art, signage, etc.) -
FYI, the 6 point star is a Crips symbol, while the 5 point star is for Bloods.
-
neene wrote:
Pretty sure that graffiti belongs to the "Folk Nation" out of Chicago.. don't know if they're aligned w/ the Crips or something..
I was poking through the Flickr account and didn't find it right away...but here's a Crips tag on Utica Ave posted by RunsWithScissors
I appreciate the education.
edited to add: I know next to nothing about gang tags, and called this Crips because that's how it was id'd in Flickr. -
since we are on the topic of gangs,
i heard (from an elected official) that the rash of recent muggings on the west side might be related to gang initiation
can anyone shed some light on that?
(btw, for clarity's sake, that's pitu's post quoted above not mine) -
pitu wrote: [quote=neene]
Pretty sure that graffiti belongs to the "Folk Nation" out of Chicago.. don't know if they're aligned w/ the Crips or something..
I was poking through the Flickr account and didn't find it right away...but here's a Crips tag on Utica Ave posted by RunsWithScissors
I appreciate the education.
edited to add: I know next to nothing about gang tags, and called this Crips because that's how it was id'd in Flickr.
yes, they are.
Howdy, Stranger!
Categories
- 40K All Categories
- 27.1K Neighborhoods
- 5.1K Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens
- 7.1K Prospect Heights
- 2.3K Fort Greene, Clinton Hill, Bed-Stuy
- 8K Park Slope
- 549 Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Bushwick
- 442 Flatbush/Midwood/Ditmas Park
- 657 BoCoCa (Boerum Hill, Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens)
- 151 Red Hook
- 104 Gowanus
- 304 Bay Ridge/Bensonhurst
- 130 Coney Island, Brighton Beach, Sheepshead Bay
- 270 Brooklyn Heights, DUMBO and Downtown
- 598 Windsor Terrace / Kensington
- 673 Greenwood Heights and Sunset Park
- 749 Brooklyn and Beyond
- 6.3K Stuff
- 86 Brooklyn Back When
- 1.2K Brooklyn Pets
- 257 Brooklyn Kids
- 241 Brooklyn Eats
- 51 Brooklyn Booze
- 3.6K The Lounge / Random Stuff
- 611 Brooklyn Politics
- 122 Brooklyn Sports and Fitness
- 111 Brooklyn Photos
- 339 Site Issues
- 8 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
- 6.2K Listings
- 1.1K APARTMENTS and REAL ESTATE
- 1.3K Sales Openings Events
- 2.3K The Classifieds






