Rider Report Card on the F train
MTA has posted the results.
I'm inclined to call BS on the C-minus. I filed four surveys myself, none of them higher than a D.
The amazing thing about it is the number of responses they got: 13,000-plus. The next biggest response (for the A) was barely half that. But that means a few thousand people gave it A's and B's to balance out all the D's and F's it must have gotten. Who are these people??
I'm inclined to call BS on the C-minus. I filed four surveys myself, none of them higher than a D.
The amazing thing about it is the number of responses they got: 13,000-plus. The next biggest response (for the A) was barely half that. But that means a few thousand people gave it A's and B's to balance out all the D's and F's it must have gotten. Who are these people??
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Subject: Re: Rider Report Card on the F train
Nuclear Redaction wrote: Who are these people??
Probably people who have little or no experience w/ other lines. I've spent most of my life with the F, and I can tell you that it sucks and has pretty much always sucked. ESPECIALLY nighttime and weekends.
It's especially painful for me to have to deal with the F again now after riding the Q for a few years, which runs like a rocket 24/7. -
Try throwing the V into your commute. 5 Fs will pass while you're waiting for that damn thing to come. The V is my new arch nemesis.
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Subject: Re: Rider Report Card on the F train
Restless Native wrote: [quote=Nuclear Redaction]Who are these people??
Probably people who have little or no experience w/ other lines. I've spent most of my life with the F, and I can tell you that it sucks and has pretty much always sucked. ESPECIALLY nighttime and weekends.
It's especially painful for me to have to deal with the F again now after riding the Q for a few years, which runs like a rocket 24/7.
cheers to the Q! i just went from being an R/M to N rider to a straight shot Q man. and it is a very nice thing. My experience with the F went from "i don't get what everyone's talking about" to "this train makes me wanna put forks in my knees" in the course of two weeks when I first moved to Brooklyn. -
Actually, those report cards were released last week. Today's Report Cards are the V and R lines. But that's not really the point.
Those folks giving the F higher marks live in Queens where the trains run smoothly and on the express lines. It doesn't get bad until it gets to Brooklyn. -
i wonder how they averaged those grades.
an F could count as anything from a 0 to a 59. if they counted every F as a 50, it wouldn't take too many pollyannas to inflate the average grade. -
sweet tea wrote: i wonder how they averaged those grades.
That's assuming they converted to a percent score. If they did the usual college method (a=4.0, b=3.0, c=2.0, d=1.0, f=0, with +=+0.3 and -=-0.3), then they could just average the grades.
an F could count as anything from a 0 to a 59. if they counted every F as a 50, it wouldn't take too many pollyannas to inflate the average grade. -
For the life of me I can't find the R report card...Could someone post a link?
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Carnivore wrote: [quote=sweet tea]i wonder how they averaged those grades.
That's assuming they converted to a percent score. If they did the usual college method (a=4.0, b=3.0, c=2.0, d=1.0, f=0, with +=+0.3 and -=-0.3), then they could just average the grades.
an F could count as anything from a 0 to a 59. if they counted every F as a 50, it wouldn't take too many pollyannas to inflate the average grade.
fair enough, but i wouldn't want to bet serious money that the mta would be that sensible, would you?
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I lived in Queens for four years, and the F is not any better there. In fact, it's worse. I used to get on at the fourth stop in the morning and I never, ever got a seat. It's packed the entire way in. I usually get a seat on the F coming from Park Slope although lately, that's been changing. I timed it the other morning - had to wait 10 minutes for a train, it was too packed to get on, the next packed train came about 8 minutes later. I think I got a seat at Broadway-Lafayette.
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I hate the F - I've ridden every train everywhere in the city. I like the N - or any of the BMT expresses (I think the Q but that used to be an IND train). Anyway the F is slow, packed always late or skipping stops.
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yoda wrote: I think the Q but that used to be an IND train.
Sort of. Although what they call the Q now is actually what used to be called the D, an IND train, the Q was originally a BMT train. And I'm pretty sure that that section of track was BMT track, even when the IND D train ran on it. The M used to also run on that line.
Here's a BMT subway map from 1924 (from this awesome website):
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I think some of the grade inflation also comes from the bullshit categories on the report card. What do I give a shit about "scratchitti" when I can't even get *on* the fucking train in the morning and it hardly runs at night?
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