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South Slope in today's NY Sun...Union Market a-commeth. — Brooklynian

South Slope in today's NY Sun...Union Market a-commeth.

Subject: South Slope in today's NY Sun...Union Market a-commeth.

http://www.nysun.com/article/68000
New York Sun
New Supermarket Signals Change in South Park Slope


BY BRADLEY HOPE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
December 13, 2007
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/68000

With the arrival next week of South Park Slope's first high-end supermarket, the neighborhood is taking a significant step toward shaking off its reputation as second fiddle to the more recognized area to the north, local business owners and real estate brokers say.

Union Market, which has operated a store on Union Street since 2005, is opening a new location on Seventh Avenue between 13th and 14th streets as early as next week. The outpost will include a full produce department, cheese section, fish and meat counters, olive bar, bread area, and prepared food section.

"I think it will have an impact on the way people feel about the South Slope," a Corcoran broker in Brooklyn, Stan Gerasimczyk, said. "More people may consider going into the 20s and the teens, especially as more and more businesses open up."

Over the last several years, small specialty food stores have opened along Seventh Avenue, but residents still had to make long trips to neighboring communities to shop at a full-service supermarket.

"Our customers invite us to open in their neighborhoods," one of the three founders of Union Market, Marko Lalic, said. "We want to be in upcoming areas."

Mr. Lalic said Union Market is planning on opening a store on Fulton Street in Fort Greene in the spring and is interested in Cobble Hill and Williamsburg as possible sites for future locations. "We're very excited for them to come to the neighborhood," a co-founder of Concerned Citizens of Greenwood Heights, Aaron Brashear, said. "There are very few fresh green markets here. There is a bit of a void."

Greenwood Heights is situated around Green-Wood Cemetery in an area just south of South Park Slope. Still, Mr. Brashear said he is worried that rental prices may begin to rise because of all the higher-end amenities moving in.

Calling Union Market the "Balducci's of Brooklyn," the district manager of Community Board 6, Craig Hammerman, said such new stores are balancing out the contrasts between the north and south sides of the neighborhood. In addition to new developments rising across the neighborhood, such as the Vue on 16th Street and 515 condominiums at 13th Street, new bars and restaurants are increasing foot traffic on weekends, he said.

Across the street from the new Union Market, a rare-beer bar called Beer Table is expected to open in January.

"People are really paying attention to what is going on down here," the owner, Justin Philips, said.

While Mr. Philips said the new supermarket is a "sign of change," he said smaller specialty shops like Grab on Seventh Avenue and 15th Street could get hurt by bigger chains moving in.

Mr. Lalic and his partners, Martin Nuñez and Paul Fernandez, have spent years working in the gourmet food industry. Before starting the store in Brooklyn, Messrs. Lalic and Nuñez worked as managers for Gourmet Garage in Manhattan.

"It's really a kind of throwback to the neighborhood grocery store," the general manager of Union Market, David Grotenstein, said. "We are geared toward the way New Yorkers shop, which is not unlike the way Parisians or people in Milan shop. They are spontaneous about what they want for dinner and want to decide what looks good for that night."
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  • Yahoo! I am really psyched. But I will still by my produce from my favorite produce store in all of Park Slope - next to Big Nose Full Body. I loie that couple (and their produce), and would never desert them.
  • I think the address is Seventh Avenue between 12th and 13th.
  • "South Park Slope's first high-end supermarket," by "high-end" I am assuming they mean 'hyped-up and overpriced'? I've never stepped foot in the place (surprise, surprise!), but I'm guessing it's nothing much to crow about..

    I knew we had serious problems when the original overpriced yupmart, D'Agostinos, reached the point where it was no longer yup enough for the local clientele. Who knows where we're headed from here. I'll continue to take my business to Pathmark, thanks. :roll:
  • Restless Native wrote: "South Park Slope's first high-end supermarket," by "high-end" I am assuming they mean 'hyped-up and overpriced'? I've never stepped foot in the place (surprise, surprise!), but I'm guessing it's nothing much to crow about..

    I knew we had serious problems when the original overpriced yupmart, D'Agostinos, reached the point where it was no longer yup enough for the local clientele. Who knows where we're headed from here. I'll continue to take my business to Pathmark, thanks. :roll:
    Thinking about what you said there... But also thinking I will take the smaller of the two shopping carts and make the small walk over to this place and browse.. If I leave with an empty shopping cart so be it... If I fill it up with overpriced pretty, healthy lovely and lively food I will thank the godesses for letting me live in Park Slope and letting me afford shopping here (or at least allowing me putting it on my credit card and worrying about it later)


    Bottom line on this.. I will give it one try and see what the story is with no pre- judgements. After that... I will be back her spouting my mouth and judging all over the place !!!!
  • Restless Native wrote: ...by "high-end" I am assuming they mean 'hyped-up and overpriced'? I've never stepped foot in the place (surprise, surprise!), but I'm guessing it's nothing much to crow about..
    Not to be a dick or anything, but you might want to step foot in it before you decide it's all hype. I've been to the other location, and while I fully agree it is overpriced, there is a lot of nice stuff I have not been able to find elsewhere, or for less money.

    I'm looking forward to the opening.
  • kosherdave wrote: [quote=Restless Native] ...by "high-end" I am assuming they mean 'hyped-up and overpriced'? I've never stepped foot in the place (surprise, surprise!), but I'm guessing it's nothing much to crow about..
    Not to be a dick or anything, but you might want to step foot in it before you decide it's all hype. I've been to the other location, and while I fully agree it is overpriced, there is a lot of nice stuff I have not been able to find elsewhere, or for less money.

    I'm looking forward to the opening.

    You summed up my thoughts.Hopefully, that poster doesn't pass judgments on people that easily.
  • doldrums wrote: [quote=kosherdave]
    Not to be a dick or anything, but you might want to step foot in it before you decide it's all hype. I've been to the other location, and while I fully agree it is overpriced, there is a lot of nice stuff I have not been able to find elsewhere, or for less money.

    I'm looking forward to the opening.
    You summed up my thoughts.Hopefully, that poster doesn't pass judgments on people that easily.

    Golly gee, a "high-end" supermarket opening up in Park Slope, with a name that ends with "Market." Although I must admit I enjoy a good pre-judge as much as the next guy, in this case I think it's safe to say that I can call a spade a spade here without having to flip over the card to know for sure. :roll:

    When it comes down to getting ripped off for the basic needs just so I can have access to organic black olives, microbrew beer, or whatever else useless nonsense you just can't get at a Pathmark, I'm afraid the trade off just isn't worth it in my opinion.
  • About time! I wouldn't be able to afford to shop there all of the time, but it will be nice to have it close by when I need organic olives. Pathmark is quite a schlep for me.
  • Restless Native wrote: Golly gee, a "high-end" supermarket opening up in Park Slope, with a name that ends with "Market." Although I must admit I enjoy a good pre-judge as much as the next guy, in this case I think it's safe to say that I can call a spade a spade here without having to flip over the card to know for sure. :roll:

    When it comes down to getting ripped off for the basic needs just so I can have access to organic black olives, microbrew beer, or whatever else useless nonsense you just can't get at a Pathmark, I'm afraid the trade off just isn't worth it in my opinion.
    You're completely entitled to your opinion, and I agree that a lot of the stuff is expensive, I'm just saying you should check it out before you assume.
    On a side note, I'm not sure what's wrong with micro brew beer. Sure tastes better than PBR to me. I'd pay more for that any day.
    And IMO fresh olives (organic or not) are fuck all better than the canned stuff you get at the "low end" grocery stores. My mouth is watering just thinking about the place. You can always buy the basic needs elsewhere, where they're less money. :wink:
  • Testiculon wrote: Yahoo! I am really psyched. But I will still by my produce from my favorite produce store in all of Park Slope - next to Big Nose Full Body. I loie that couple (and their produce), and would never desert them.
    I agree! I think you are referring to Mr. and Mrs. Lee. For such a small store, it has so much variety of produces and fruits. They take really good care of the veggies. And I love that they put out bubble makers in the summer. I think I will still buy most of my veggies, fruits, and groceries there, fish and meats at the new Union Market, and then munchies, bread, other goodies from Grab.
  • I went to Union Market with an open mind and thought it was ridiculously expensive. I felt I was paying for the really nice display. It is very pretty in there. But give me a break! When I paid for my small piece of salmon and loaf of bread I wondered if I was wearing a sticky on my back that read "SUCKER!"

    I feel sad it is opening in South Slope because we ALREADY have the North Slope. Please God, can't we contain it and not let it encroach any further past 9th Street? North Slope is like an oil slick that keeps spreading.
  • WTGirl wrote:
    I feel sad it is opening in South Slope because we ALREADY have the North Slope. Please God, can't we contain it and not let it encroach any further past 9th Street? North Slope is like an oil slick that keeps spreading.
    It's not so much the North Slope, but rather Manhattan that spread here.

    I would love to to know how these people are pulling this money out of their ass to pay $2-3k a month on rent, and then turn around and throw even more money away on these foo-foo gourmet markets, like it's nothing - not just a few people here and there, but entire freakin neighborhoods are living like this, yet nobody on the morning F train is wearing a suit and tie to work. What could they possibly be doing to live like money grows on trees? Would love to know the secret. :?
  • Would love to know the secret
    Diversity. Makes the world go round.

    (PS. I am not in the crowd you might think I'm in... just not as judgmental.)

    Plenty of things more relevant to rally against...
  • lostingreenwoodhts wrote:
    Would love to know the secret
    Diversity. Makes the world go round.

    (PS. I am not in the crowd you might think I'm in... just not as judgmental.)

    Plenty of things more relevant to rally against...
    Sorry, but what does "Diversity" have to do with where people are getting their money from? And where does being "judgmental" play into it anyway? Just said I'd love to know, if you've got any insight into the situation that'd be great. Not to mention, I'm not "rallying" against anything, I'm going to be a multi-multi-millionaire by the time I die thanks to these morons. Who would want to rally against that? :wink:
  • Restless Native wrote: I'm going to be a multi-multi-millionaire by the time I die thanks to these morons. Who would want to rally against that? :wink:
    What good are the multi-multi millions going to do you when you're dead? Why not enjoy some of what you've earned?
  • Wow, I must be an ultra guppie bc I thought that D'Ag was disgusting. You really aren't fond of change, are you?

    Personally, I think it's a great thing for South Slope... I mean I love me some bodegas, but there's nothing wrong with some high quality cheese, bread and meat. It may not be your cup of tea, but why the need to immediately judge the store and its clientele?
  • Sigggh. Restless Native's MO is starting to get tired. She must have a lot of time on her hands with all those inheritance assets. :shock:
  • 8thandPrez wrote: Wow, I must be an ultra guppie bc I thought that D'Ag was disgusting. You really aren't fond of change, are you?

    Personally, I think it's a great thing for South Slope... I mean I love me some bodegas, but there's nothing wrong with some high quality cheese, bread and meat. It may not be your cup of tea, but why the need to immediately judge the store and its clientele?
    I have no problem with change, if it's for the better. Just can't stand this trend of raising prices on basic goods for no reason other than the fact that gullible people will pay (and they will pay).

    Re: Willregister, this board reflects about 1/25 of my 'real life' personality. I know for someone like you who actually comes here to socialize that's probably difficult to understand, but that's fine with me, I don't make judgments. :lol:
  • RN - I think the "secret" is just that more and more workplaces allow casual dress. Doesn't necessarily explain the having-more-money part, but explains the lack of suits on the F...
  • I know at least our aquaintances in North Slope who are living on trusts and don't work. They just "fill the day" with yoga, coffee at Connecticut muffin, reading the paper or dabbling on a screenplay, maybe working a coop shift, doing a little shopping or checking their stock numbers

    I am one for inheritance taxes so we don't become like England with an aristocracry class of do-nothings.
  • WTGirl wrote: I know at least our aquaintances in North Slope who are living on trusts and don't work. They just "fill the day" with yoga, coffee at Connecticut muffin, reading the paper or dabbling on a screenplay, maybe working a coop shift, doing a little shopping or checking their stock numbers

    I am one for inheritance taxes so we don't become like England with an aristocracry class of do-nothings.
    That's a pretty tiny minority of the people around here. I totally agree about the inheritence taxes though. Of course then Restless Native wouldn't have his fancy house.
  • WTGirl wrote: I know at least our aquaintances in North Slope who are living on trusts and don't work. They just "fill the day" with yoga, coffee at Connecticut muffin, reading the paper or dabbling on a screenplay, maybe working a coop shift, doing a little shopping or checking their stock numbers

    I am one for inheritance taxes so we don't become like England with an aristocracry class of do-nothings.
    Interesting.. that would explain the people I see walking around w/ yoga mats at 10am weekdays on 7th Ave, w/ no sign of employment..

    RE: Carnivore: not gonna get into more details about myself but let's just say that I would be outdoing 98% of you whether I inherited something or not. The fact that I did in fact get something just shows that there is still some justice left in this world, when there are slimeballs like this roaming around my neighborhood:



  • "WTGirl" wrote: I know at least our aquaintances in North Slope who are living on trusts and don't work. They just "fill the day" with yoga, coffee at Connecticut muffin, reading the paper or dabbling on a screenplay, maybe working a coop shift, doing a little shopping or checking their stock numbers

    I am one for inheritance taxes so we don't become like England with an aristocracry class of do-nothings.
    That's a pretty tiny minority of the people around here. I totally agree about the inheritence taxes though. Of course then Restless Native wouldn't have his fancy house.


    If I know four (I actually thought of three more) there must be quite a few more sitting on their inheritances all day. I don't really care (although I do think we need to be careful not to build up a large leisure class and the founding fathers knew what they were talking about when they wanted to bust up wealthy and powerful families), but I personally can't relate to people who need to figure out how to fill out a day. It is just too big of a culture leap--"gosh should I do a 10:00 Hatha yoga or an 11:00 pilates? Sigh, then I have to do a coop shift. Just where DOES the day go? I had hoped to throw a pot or weave but I guess I better get dinner"
  • Restless Native wrote: RE: Carnivore: not gonna get into more details about myself but let's just say that I would be outdoing 98% of you whether I inherited something or not. The fact that I did in fact get something just shows that there is still some justice left in this world, when there are slimeballs like this roaming around my neighborhood
    I don't think there's all that much of a difference between you having a nice building that your parents passed on to you and these people who are buying homes for their children while they're still alive.

    Your disdain for and assumptions about anyone who is interested in, say, coffee shops or nicer grocery stores or just looks a certain way is beyond tiresome. We're all WELL aware of who you don't like and what you think about them, since you never pass up a chance to make some snarly remark about anything new or that you perceive to be "yup"-like or whatever. And your constant railing against presumed newcomers to the neighborhood about whom you make endless assumptions when you're admittedly pretty privileged yourself is extremely hypocritical, especially when you go on to brag about "outdoing" 98% of us.
  • apollonia666 wrote: I don't think there's all that much of a difference between you having a nice building that your parents passed on to you and these people who are buying homes for their children while they're still alive.

    Your disdain for and assumptions about anyone who is interested in, say, coffee shops or nicer grocery stores or just looks a certain way is beyond tiresome. We're all WELL aware of who you don't like and what you think about them, since you never pass up a chance to make some snarly remark about anything new or that you perceive to be "yup"-like or whatever. And your constant railing against presumed newcomers to the neighborhood about whom you make endless assumptions when you're admittedly pretty privileged yourself is extremely hypocritical, especially when you go on to brag about "outdoing" 98% of us.
    I think it's totally hilarious that if RN ever has kids, they're going to become exactly the people that he disdains so much.
  • Carnivore wrote: [quote=apollonia666]I don't think there's all that much of a difference between you having a nice building that your parents passed on to you and these people who are buying homes for their children while they're still alive.
    I think it's totally hilarious that if RN ever has kids, they're going to become exactly the people that he disdains so much.

    Yeah there's a difference, my family bought here because they couldn't afford anywhere else. As you may have forgotten, this neighborhood was once labeled "blighted." My fam wasn't roaming around w/ the 1950 equivalent of $1.4 mil complaining that they "didn't have much money to throw around" for their useless musician offspring, like the douchebags in the vid I posted.

    And I would never in a million years raise a family in this neighborhood. No matter how hard you try to instill good values into your kids, they would turn out to be garbage by proxy. No thanks. I'll be off to a 'real' Brooklyn neighborhood. :arrow:
  • Restless Native wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=apollonia666]I don't think there's all that much of a difference between you having a nice building that your parents passed on to you and these people who are buying homes for their children while they're still alive.
    I think it's totally hilarious that if RN ever has kids, they're going to become exactly the people that he disdains so much.

    Yeah there's a difference, my family bought here because they couldn't afford anywhere else. As you may have forgotten, this neighborhood was once labeled "blighted." My fam wasn't roaming around w/ the 1950 equivalent of $1.4 mil complaining that they "didn't have much money to throw around" for their useless musician offspring, like the douchebags in the vid I posted.

    And I would never in a million years raise kids in this neighborhood. No matter how hard you try to instill good values into your kids, they would turn out to be garbage by proxy. No thanks. I'll be off to a 'real' Brooklyn neighborhood. :arrow:
    Yeah, but wherever you are, if you choose to have kids, they're going to grow up with every advantage. I assume you'll make sure they get the best possible education. They won't want for food, clothing, a good place to live. And (I'm assuming again here, it's true) they'll have an involved caring parent. Maybe you won't buy them a house. Maybe you'll just leave them yours when you die. But regardless, they're going to have a lot of things coming to them that they didn't earn. And I think you'll probably encourage them to cultivate their interests, even if it's something "useless" like being a musician.
  • LydiaBrunch wrote: RN - I think the "secret" is just that more and more workplaces allow casual dress. Doesn't necessarily explain the having-more-money part, but explains the lack of suits on the F...
    True, I do pretty ok (well enough to live in PS and shop at Union Market :lol: ) --my g/f actually makes a good deal more than I do, and we both wear jeans to work whenever we want. I even wear flip flips to work in the summer.
    I dress up when I meet or present to my clients, but these days people realize the quality of work done is not directly related to how expensive your tie is. ;-)
    so in my office, it's "downtown casual" which means nice jeans ;-)
  • I don't agree with just about anything Native says on the forum but.. I watched that video and what I came away with was.. I can't think of anything more distasteful than becoming my kid's landlord!
  • Restless Native wrote:
    Yeah there's a difference, my family bought here because they couldn't afford anywhere else.
    Isn't this true of, like, 95% of the general population though? I mean, generally speaking, people buy (or rent) where they can afford to, unless they want to default on their loans and end up with nothing. If they were lucky, they bought in Park Slope in the 50's. If they were unlucky, they bought in... well I was gonna say they were unlucky if they bought in Bushwick in the 50's but if they managed to hang on til now I guess they're lucky again. Anyway, I do suspect that the trustafarians are the exception rather than the rule.

    No disrespect, but I have to agree with apollonia666. Both you and those kids are the benefactors of work your parents put in and decisons they made. I can see a distinction insofar as they appear to have grown up in a pretty cossetted environment (not that we know for sure) and you didn't, but at the end of the day, you are both lucky enough to have a residence you didn't have to scrape up the cash for yourself.

    It's not the only kind of privilege, but you have to admit it's *a* privilege.

    I'm curious though - what neighborhood(s) *would* you raise your kids in?
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