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Benazir Bhutto killed in attack! — Brooklynian

Benazir Bhutto killed in attack!

Pakistani former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been killed in a presumed suicide attack.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7161590.stm
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Pakistani former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been killed in a presumed suicide attack.

News of her death was confirmed by a military spokesman and members of her Pakistan People's Party (PPP).

Ms Bhutto had just addressed a pre-election rally in the town of Rawalpindi when the attack occurred.

At least 15 other people are reported killed in the attack and several more were injured. Ms Bhutto had twice been the country's prime minister.

She had been campaigning ahead of elections due in January.

The BBC's Barbara Plett says the killing is likely to provoke an agonised response from her followers, especially from her loyal following in Sindh Province.
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  • Subject: Re: Benazir Bhutto killed in attack!

    Mamacita wrote: Any thoughts?
    personally, i'm deeply saddened.
  • Subject: Re: Benazir Bhutto killed in attack!

    shishkab wrote: [quote=Mamacita] Any thoughts?
    personally, i'm deeply saddened.

    how long have they been trying to kill her? infuriating. good job, pakistan.
  • An obituary is posted on the BBC
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    Benazir Bhutto followed her father into politics, and both of them died because of it - he was executed in 1979, she fell victim to an apparent suicide bomb attack.

    Her two brothers also suffered violent deaths.

    Like the Nehru-Gandhi family in India, the Bhuttos of Pakistan are one of the world's most famous political dynasties. Benazir's father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, was prime minister of Pakistan in the early 1970s.

    His government was one of the few in the 30 years following independence that was not run by the army.

    Born in 1953 in the province of Sindh and educated at Harvard and Oxford, Ms Bhutto gained credibility from her father's high profile, even though she was a reluctant convert to politics.

    She was twice prime minister of Pakistan, from 1988 to 1990, and from 1993 to 1996.

    Stubbornness

    On both occasions she was dismissed from office by the president for alleged corruption.

    The dismissals typified her volatile political career, which was characterised by numerous peaks and troughs. At the height of her popularity - shortly after her first election - she was one of the most high-profile women leaders in the world.

    Young and glamorous, she successfully portrayed herself as a refreshing contrast to the overwhelmingly male-dominated political establishment.

    But after her second fall from power, her name came to be seen by some as synonymous with corruption and bad governance.

    The determination and stubbornness for which Ms Bhutto was renowned was first seen after her father was imprisoned and charged with murder by Gen Zia ul-Haq in 1977, following a military coup. Two years later he was executed.

    Ms Bhutto was imprisoned just before her father's death and spent most of her five-year jail term in solitary confinement. She described the conditions as extremely hard.

    During stints out of prison for medical treatment, Ms Bhutto set up a Pakistan People's Party office in London, and began a campaign against General Zia.

    She returned to Pakistan in 1986, attracting huge crowds to political rallies.

    After Gen Zia died in an explosion on board his aircraft in 1988, she became one of the first democratically elected female prime ministers in an Islamic country.

    Corruption charges

    During both her stints in power, the role of Ms Bhutto's husband, Asif Zardari, proved highly controversial.

    He played a prominent role in both her administrations, and has been accused by various Pakistani governments of stealing millions of dollars from state coffers - charges he denies, as did Ms Bhutto herself.

    Many commentators argued that the downfall of Ms Bhutto's government was accelerated by the alleged greed of her husband.

    None of about 18 corruption and criminal cases against Mr Zardari has been proved in court after 10 years. But he served at least eight years in jail.

    He was freed on bail in 2004, amid accusations that the charges against him were weak and going nowhere.

    Ms Bhutto also steadfastly denied all the corruption charges against her, which she said were politically motivated.

    She faced corruption charges in at least five cases, all without a conviction, until amnestied in October 2007.

    She was convicted in 1999 for failing to appear in court, but the Supreme Court later overturned that judgement.

    Soon after the conviction, audiotapes of conversations between the judge and some top aides of then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif were discovered that showed that the judge had been under pressure to convict.

    Ms Bhutto left Pakistan in 1999 to live abroad, but questions about her and her husband's wealth continued to dog her.

    She appealed against a conviction in the Swiss courts for money-laundering.

    During her years outside Pakistan, Ms Bhutto lived with her three children in Dubai, where she was joined by her husband after he was freed in 2004.

    She was a regular visitor to Western capitals, delivering lectures at universities and think-tanks and meeting government officials.

    Army mistrust

    Ms Bhutto returned to Pakistan on 18 October 2007 after President Musharraf signed into law an ordinance granting her and others an amnesty from corruption charges.

    Observers said the military regime saw her as a natural ally in its efforts to isolate religious forces and their surrogate militants.

    She declined a government offer to let her party head the national government after the 2002 elections, in which the party received the largest number of votes.

    In the months before her death, she had emerged again as a strong contender for power.

    Some in Pakistan believe her secret talks with the military regime amounted to betrayal of democratic forces as these talks shored up President Musharraf's grip on the country.

    Others said such talks indicated that the military might at long last be getting over its decades-old mistrust of Ms Bhutto and her party, and interpreted it as a good omen for democracy.

    Western powers saw in her a popular leader with liberal leanings who could bring much needed legitimacy to Mr Musharraf's role in the "war against terror".

    Unhappy family

    Benazir Bhutto was the last remaining bearer of her late father's political legacy.

    Her brother, Murtaza - who was once expected to play the role of party leader - fled to the then-communist Afghanistan after his father's fall.

    From there, and various Middle Eastern capitals, he mounted a campaign against Pakistan's military government with a militant group called al-Zulfikar.

    He won elections from exile in 1993 and became a provincial legislator, returning home soon afterwards, only to be shot dead under mysterious circumstances in 1996.

    Benazir's other brother, Shahnawaz - also politically active but in less violent ways than Murtaza - was found dead in his French Riviera apartment in 1985.
    So sad :(
  • Disgusting and 100% predictable and 100% preventable. With friends like Pakistan who needs enemies? Musharraf should be tried for crimes of treason.

    The photo on the jump page of the NYT web site is among the most stomach-churning I have seen.
  • Livetotravel wrote:
    The photo on the jump page of the NYT web site is among the most stomach-churning I have seen.
    Actually, LtT, I'm glad they are showing it. I am so sick and tired of the American media sanitizing everything. Perhaps if Americans saw a little more of what blood and gore and dead people reeeeeeeeeeeeeally looks like, they would take things a little more seriously.

    That's not directed at you, LtT. That's just my rant for the day.
  • shishkab wrote: [quote=Livetotravel]
    The photo on the jump page of the NYT web site is among the most stomach-churning I have seen.
    Actually, LtT, I'm glad they are showing it. I am so sick and tired of the American media sanitizing everything. Perhaps if Americans saw a little more of what blood and gore and dead people reeeeeeeeeeeeeally looks like, they would take things a little more seriously.

    Wonkette.com made much the same observation, and has some really horrible photos:
    http://wonkette.com/338237/before-and-after-the-assassination-in-photos
  • Her words are just as powerful as the photos
  • riots are starting to spread in pakistan
    civil war anyone? in a nuclear armed state noless:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/27/wbhutto128.xml
  • I'm still trying to figure out who really did it and who really benefits...
    But what was she thinking? Who is in her security detail that told her it was okay to be popping out of a car sunroof?

    They are burying her so quickly per religious tradition that forensic evidence may get missed. I don't have a lot of faith in the Pakistani police in gathering forensic evidence.

    Was this the work of Pakistani black Ops (Musharaf) or was it al Qeada?
    I also see the oil cartel wasted no time to raise oil prices closer to $100 a barrel.
    Oil Jumps on Bhutto Assassination

    By JOHN WILEN – 11 hours ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — Oil prices rose Thursday after the assassination of Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto raised concerns about stability in the Middle East.

    Bhutto died in a suicide attack that also killed at least 20 others at a campaign rally, aides said.

    "It's definitely instability," said James Cordier, president of Liberty Trading Group in Tampa, Fla. "Everybody wants calm when they're talking about pricing energy (futures)."

    Light, sweet crude for February delivery rose 34 cents to $96.31 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

    Also supporting oil prices Thursday were expectations that domestic crude supplies fell last week. In its weekly inventory report, the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration is expected to show that oil supplies fell by 1.3 million barrels last week, according to the average forecast of analysts surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires.

    Analysts believe crude supplies fell because of foggy weather that at times prevented oil tankers from entering the Houston Ship Channel and delivering their cargoes.....
    Whatever.
  • it was musharraf.
    and at this point it doesn't matter
    the rioters are blaming him for this...
    it's academic
  • Generally, Pakistan has been more stable when it's been under civil authority rather than military, but the military doesn't want to give up its power. This is going to get scary. I remember the nuclear standoff eight years ago between India and Pakistan. That wasn't fun.
  • SevenOneEighty wrote: But what was she thinking? Who is in her security detail that told her it was okay to be popping out of a car sunroof?
    even if she hadn't been out of the car sunroof, who's to say that she wouldn't have died anyway, or wouldn't have been killed in a subsequent attack? there were tons of attempts on her life, and had this one failed, there would have been more.

    the entire situation is deplorable and the pakistani government only has itself to blame. of course, they're the ones that did it, so whatever.
  • The death of Bhutto is tragic but I'm concerned that she's getting turned into some kind of posthumous would-be savior for Pakistan.

    While she wasn't a dictator on Musharraf's level, she was equally corrupt and not a particularly good leader. She was as self-serving and concerned only with her faction as anyone else that country has seen.

    Politically, Pakistan is a messed up place.

    (Socially, life was decent until Musharraf declared a military state and oversaw this latest assassination.)

    As for the upheaval in a nuclear armed state, the Fundamentalist Psychos hopefully won't be getting their hands on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal any time soon. Musharraf may be pushed from office, but the military is deeply entrenched in every aspect of Pakistani life, from the arsenals to the ministries to almost all economic and commercial enterprises. I just don't see the Fundamentalist Psychos grabbing power any time soon. They're not very popular in Pakistan, especially in the cities.
  • i like huckabee's plan to build a wall on the US-Pakistan border :lol:
  • Like I was saying...

    Bhutto’s Deadly Legacy
    By WILLIAM DALRYMPLE
    Published: January 4, 2008
    The New York Times
    Op-Ed Contributor

    Benazir Bhutto’s death is, of course, a calamity, particularly as she embodied the hopes of so many liberal Pakistanis. But, contrary to the commentary we’ve seen in the last week, she was not comparable to Myanmar’s Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. Ms. Bhutto’s governments were widely criticized by Amnesty International and other groups for their use of death squads and terrible record on deaths in police custody, abductions and torture. As for her democratic bona fides, she had no qualms about banning rallies by opposing political parties while in power.

    Within her own party, she declared herself the president for life and controlled all decisions. She rejected her brother Murtaza’s bid to challenge her for its leadership and when he persisted, he was shot dead in highly suspicious circumstances during a police ambush outside the Bhutto family home.

    Benazir Bhutto was certainly a brave and secular-minded woman. But the obituaries painting her as dying to save democracy distort history. Instead, she was a natural autocrat who did little for human rights, a calculating politician who was complicit in Pakistan’s becoming the region’s principal jihadi paymaster while she also ramped up an insurgency in Kashmir that has brought two nuclear powers to the brink of war.
  • whatever you think of her, the fact that she was assassinated is pretty clear evidence that pakistan has a long, long way to go. frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if she were innocent of most of the corruption crap.
  • alafairnadia wrote: frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if she were innocent of most of the corruption crap.
    I'm not sure what would lead you to believe that.

    I think I can count on one hand the number of third world leaders that are free of corruption. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but government functions quite differently in poor countries that don't have a strong private economic sector. Political office is frequently the quickest and most efficient way to wealth. In Western countries, the opposite is usually true. (ie the quickest way to wealth is through private business, not through public office)

    Also there's more to her shortcomings than corruption. As the article says, in tandem with India, she oversaw the escalation of the Kashmir situation into a dirty, ugly war.
  • Refresh my memory. Who was president of Pakistan during the nuclear standoff with India, when they had those bomb tests? That was back in '99, I believe.
  • uh, google it? :roll:
  • shishkab wrote: uh, google it? :roll:
    i'm pretty sure wikipedia was president then.
  • Geez. Since we were on the subject, AND we were talking about whether or not Bhutto was corrupt, I thought someone might know who was president of Pakistan during that crisis because it's relevant to the subject.

    That was a horrible time. I spent hours watching CNN and crying.
  • Anyone catch Musharaff on "60 Minutes" last night?
    Podcast it from Itunes - very interesting.

    He blamed Bhutto for her own assasination and claims he warned her not to go to the neighborhood. He also said she was foolish to come out of the top of her car the way she did and only has herself to blame. Damn.

    Get the Podcast and listen to it or watch it on your iPod!
  • SevenOneEighty wrote: Anyone catch Musharaff on "60 Minutes" last night?
    Podcast it from Itunes - very interesting.

    He blamed Bhutto for her own assasination and claims he warned her not to go to the neighborhood. He also said she was foolish to come out of the top of her car the way she did and only has herself to blame. Damn.

    Get the Podcast and listen to it or watch it on your iPod!
    Sounds like some of our posters on the CH and FG boards... :wink:
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