The defining moment of Park Slope Parents' stupidity
Subject: The defining moment of Park Slope Parents' stupidity
>This was posted on Park Slope Parents, and forwarded to me. This sort of thinking epitomizes what I detest about neurotic PSPs. I don't even know where to begin...but, isn't the alphabet something YOU teach your kids? Like, umm...sort of naturally? Maybe even have fun without outsourcing it?! I mean, how early do these control freaks want to plug their kids in?!HORRIFIED! :evil:
Please help!
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> Someone told me about a year ago about a web site for kids where they
> can learn an alphabet. I didn't save it as a bookmark and can't locate
> it now. I think it was affiliated with PBS television, something like
> Bright Stars or Raising Stars. If you know this web site or any
> similar, please share. Thanks.
>
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maybe the parent wanted the kid to be net savvy unlike them. probably didn't know the search function or google.
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Subject: I hear you!
Reading that makes me want to smack someone.
Hey, look, here it is! The website is right here...everyone read up and get smart:
a b c D is for DUH e f g h i j k l m NOpqrstuzyw
Why sing a one minute song to your kids when they can learn from ME?
Maybe it's best to push the kids online before they know what a computer's keyboard's letters mean and learn how to propperly create bad words like JACKASS and MORON. -
Subject: Re: I hear you!
raw wrote: Reading that makes me want to smack someone.
makes me want to buy some condoms :safe: -
Take a deep breath folks. Speaking from a little experience, when kids see their parents on the computer working or checking e-mails they want to be just like them and get on the computer too. It is a long day and kids need a LOT of stimulation. We can't all be perfect parents (like you are or will be) and read or play with our kids 24/7, so we sometimes let them watch TV or play on the computer. What is so bad if they have fun on the computer and learn something in the process?
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Jamzer wrote: Take a deep breath folks. Speaking from a little experience, when kids see their parents on the computer working or checking e-mails they want to be just like them and get on the computer too. It is a long day and kids need a LOT of stimulation. We can't all be perfect parents (like you are or will be) and read or play with our kids 24/7, so we sometimes let them watch TV or play on the computer. What is so bad if they have fun on the computer and learn something in the process?
I agree with all you have said but the problem is that parents can't find the balance with what they teach their kids, the computer teaches their kids and what tv bombards their kids with.
If you are blessed with the right parents kids can benefit from allllllll input but more and more I see that THAT blessing sems rare and balance is often askew. -
Jamzer wrote: Take a deep breath folks. Speaking from a little experience, when kids see their parents on the computer working or checking e-mails they want to be just like them and get on the computer too. It is a long day and kids need a LOT of stimulation. We can't all be perfect parents (like you are or will be) and read or play with our kids 24/7, so we sometimes let them watch TV or play on the computer. What is so bad if they have fun on the computer and learn something in the process?
thus spoke the wise parent.
When she was 3 my daughter liked to get on the computer while we were still sleeping [THANK YOU!] and click on some links I set up for her. One was Elmo's alphabet.Veets wrote: If you are blessed with the right parents kids can benefit from allllllll input but more and more I see that THAT blessing sems rare and balance is often askew.
Yes, we must breed. -
I'm looking for a website to teach my 7 y.o. the difference between "shall" and "will".
Seriously, though - I'll always enjoy a few LULZ at the expense of the PSP board, but this doesn't strike me as a big deal. The poster expressed him/herself poorly, but I doubt the website is intended to be the sole or even primary source of alphabet learning. -
Oh, I beg to differ! I think the defining moment (and the moment that made me almost ashamed to be a park slope parent), was the entire boy's hat thread from a while ago. If that wasn't stupidity, I don't know what is!
Oh, and yes, my youngest was enthralled with the computer at an early age from seeing the rest of us on it, and I too would have certain links for him to go to-I am sure that is what this is about also. -
Yeah, the hat thing was just sad - but it did provide train-wreck style entertainment.
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i think if you read the post closer, and maybe it's just a typo, but it says, "...a web site for kids where they can learn an alphabet." maybe they want to teach the kid a different language.
also, maybe you're jumping on this too much and they teach their kid the alphabet and they are just using this as a tool for continued learning. i'm sure your mother didn't teach you the way my mother taught me. -
Yeah, this just seems like trolling to me. Not a big scandal at all.
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Didn't say it was a scandal.
And yes, it is THE ENGLISH alphabet. Promise.
Everyone here seems to think that if children want to go online, we should let them? At any age? "Everyone else is doing it...."
If I smoke, and my kids see that, I should let them? Where are the boundaries? Who is the authority? The child?
You start teaching the alphabet almost before anything else; as we all know the "words" and the "melody." I see nothing that requires going online.
Baby Einstein videos etc..made billions off of this type of thinking, and the studies have been out for a while showing that no type of learning is going on. Merely recognition, and some potential short circuiting of critical thinking; attention span, etc.Google it yourself.
And please don't give me anecdotal mumbo jumbo about how your kid really learned from them. Facts are facts and that's my authourity. -
Baby Einstein etc. really helped my child. BIG TIME.
Edited to make "big time" all caps for extra emphasis. -
How do you equate going online with smoking? This is a computer world, the younger a child learns to use a computer, the better I say.
As for Baby Einstein videos, how did they get in here? LOL
Seems like you just have a hard on for the park slope parents board and are looking for anything to go off on, JMO of course.
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Hey Chipster, hope your kid is enjoying their Slide Rule.
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The Chipster wrote:
First you are entitled to your opinion and I respect you for that but I happen to disagree with you. I think your comparison of computer use and smoking is just silly - especially since most homes and workplaces consider the computer necessary smoking obviously is not. My son (who is in Jr. High now) brings his homework home on a flash driver and has to do lots of research on the computer for school. How do we know that the child does not have some sort of learning/developmental disability and the parent just wanted some more resources to help their child.
Everyone here seems to think that if children want to go online, we should let them? At any age? "Everyone else is doing it...."
If I smoke, and my kids see that, I should let them? Where are the boundaries? Who is the authority? The child?
You start teaching the alphabet almost before anything else; as we all know the "words" and the "melody."
I also think that teaching a child early on how to use the computer and respect the technology you will have an easier time controlling their computer use when they are teens (at least in my situation).
Schools start children on computers in pre-k and in preschools and I think helping them understand the computer beforehand helps out the child.
I dont know if you have children but I remember my son wanted to sing songs constantly - while I didn't mind most of the time, it became a bit much when I was trying to clean the house, do laundry cook dinner, etc. So I would go to his favorite website (where they had these songs) and he could sing to his hearts content until I was done with my housework then it was back to his and my time.
With all that said I do agree with you that the computer should be used as the ONLY tool to teach your children the basics. -
Not only that, I hear that there are these devices made up of thinly shaved pieces of tree that parents buy, to outsource the teaching of the alphabet to their children.
I mean is this what we've come to? To have your children taught to read by a THING? Made of DEAD PLANTS, at that?
Oh, nice work, Chip and Buffy Yuppie--tell yourself you can buy yourself educated children by spending all those investment-bank dollars on your precious dead-plant thingies, instead of orally passing down the alphabet yourself. What laziness. I pity your maladjusted children when they grow up. I pity the world to come. -
metalnyc wrote: i think if you read the post closer, and maybe it's just a typo, but it says, "...a web site for kids where they can learn an alphabet." maybe they want to teach the kid a different language.
That's what I thought too --maybe they want to help their kids learn an alphabet to a language they don't speak... Chinese? Hebrew? who knows.
Anyway, I think "lost boy's hat" was a better argument for crazy park slope parents.
But I do agree, if it is their language they are referring to, I don't see why they can't just sing the alphabet song. I've picked it up for three or 4 languages in my lifetime (not that I really speak those languages) but they are easy to learn from your parents.
I do think getting your child on the computer at an early age is a good idea, given the times we live in. I just think there may be more productive things for them to learn that are harder for a parent to teach, like HTML code or hacking into their school's computers or something
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Subject: Can I ask about the Lost Boys hat or willl you all freak?
Can I ask about the lost boys hat? -
Subject: Re: Can I ask about the Lost Boys hat or willl you all freak
Duffy'sSis wrote: Can I ask about the lost boys hat?
I actually heard about this from another source -- It started when one person started a thread saying that they had found "a blue boy's hat" on the street and were letting people know where they could claim it.
Someone else responded "how do you know it was a BOY'S hat?" and accused them of gender stereotyping.
And things snowballed in that general direction. -
Subject: Re: Can I ask about the Lost Boys hat or willl you all freak
Duffy'sSis wrote: Can I ask about the lost boys hat?
Some of it is here:
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=32498&sid=e26da58363c69e15edb6b6c8cad14d72 -
An exerpt from Miriam Stoddard's article:
(And once again, it is THE alphabet, not a foreign language)
A few years ago I was asked to help to launch Baby Einstein in this country. I was put off by the name – images of overzealous parents hot-housing their small children in the vain hope of growing their IQs – and became more dubious when I looked at the content, which was mainly coloured patterns and music reminiscent of Fantasia, but nowhere near as attractive. I couldn’t see what this was doing for babies, so I declined.
There are now a number of similar ranges, many having names that contain the same questionable promise – Brainy Baby, Baby Bright, which claims a scientific approach, and Baby IQ...Most of these titles consist of live action or simple animation and show bright patterns, other babies and basic scenes involving animals, nature, abstracts etc.
Overall, the content of these DVDs promotes passive viewing by a baby rather than using the DVD platform as an opportunity for interactive play with a parent or carer. The majority suggest that the baby will benefit intellectually from absorbing the visual and aural content. I’m aware of no credible scientific data to back up these claims and there’s no supporting material to help to guide or reassure parents. In short, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that these are products with no real benefit to babies and give parents a false notion that watching television can improve a child’s intelligence. -
I see many more examples of parental stupidity just being in PS. Heaven forbid some of these parents tell little Indigo "no", it might stifle their creativity!
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Just as a little aside, we got the ultimate compliment from our North Slope located pediatrician the other day: "You guys seem to be pretty relaxed and sensible and have things under control, not like those neurotic Park Slope parents we normally get here"
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The Chipster wrote: Didn't say it was a scandal.
Now listen up Chipster, not all of us can be a perfect parent like you are or will be...kids need a LOT of stimulation. I've had a long day. Give the kids the Internet...cookies...anything.
And yes, it is THE ENGLISH alphabet. Promise.
Everyone here seems to think that if children want to go online, we should let them? At any age? "Everyone else is doing it...."
If I smoke, and my kids see that, I should let them? Where are the boundaries? Who is the authority? The child?
You start teaching the alphabet almost before anything else; as we all know the "words" and the "melody." I see nothing that requires going online.
Baby Einstein videos etc..made billions off of this type of thinking, and the studies have been out for a while showing that no type of learning is going on. Merely recognition, and some potential short circuiting of critical thinking; attention span, etc.Google it yourself.
And please don't give me anecdotal mumbo jumbo about how your kid really learned from them. Facts are facts and that's my authourity. -
caseopele wrote: I see many more examples of parental stupidity just being in PS. Heaven forbid some of these parents tell little Indigo "no", it might stifle their creativity!
My child is named Indigo. She's 11. -
redmenace wrote: [quote=caseopele]I see many more examples of parental stupidity just being in PS. Heaven forbid some of these parents tell little Indigo "no", it might stifle their creativity!
My child is named Indigo. She's 11.
Did you name her Indigo after the Indigo children?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children
I use the name Indigo to refer to any child whose parents allow to run rampant and misbehave. And in fact, even encourage because their child is so special that they must be allowed to do whatever they want. I was not referring to one specific child named Indigo. -
The OP was hunting for something to pick on. That was a pretty lame example. I'd bet $50 that that parent also teaches the alphabet other ways and using the computer is just one mode. Some of you non-parents are downright hateful. Just you wait, you will eat your words, I promise!
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caseopele wrote: [quote=redmenace][quote=caseopele]I see many more examples of parental stupidity just being in PS. Heaven forbid some of these parents tell little Indigo "no", it might stifle their creativity!
My child is named Indigo. She's 11.
Did you name her Indigo after the Indigo children?
No. The name Indigo is a shortened variation of my mother's maiden name. The name was longer and very ethnic. My other daughter has my mother's first name - Victoria.
My mother died when I was pregnant with my first child. I thought using the names would be a nice way of memorializing her. -
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