What's going on at 9th and 7th?

Late last night I walked by and spoke with a friend of the family (seemed legit). He said the perp is a good kid (man?) but troubled. He claimed drugs were involved and that he had a sawed-off shotgun, but no hostages. Glad this all came to a peaceful conclusion.

Restless Native wrote: It's a guy who doesn't want to come out of his house, and the cops have blown it 100x out of proportion. That's it.

Really, so the cops should have just ignored those gun shots? Just chuck it up to some disturbed drunk guy and let the neighbors be damned. 7 hours to get him to come out of his house, something his family couldn't do.

Hamilton wrote: [quote=Shinybeast]Late last night I walked by and spoke with a friend of the family (seemed legit). He said the perp is a good kid (man?) but troubled. He claimed drugs were involved and that he had a sawed-off shotgun, but no hostages. Glad this all came to a peaceful conclusion.

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Don't all good kids have sawed off shot guns?

Funny, my wife made the exact same point.

I have read and not said anything since last night but reality check.. This incident clearly crosses the line. The line is when a "domestic" dispute, playing itself out in someone's private home spews forth and effects the community. The discharge of a firearm defines that border.

Jokes aside..and yes this is a clever group of people.. How can anyone question that the police should have intervened in this incident and taken it as seriously as it seems they did... note the many hours taken to come to a conclusion where no one was hurt?

yes it is Park Slope but even here some semblance of Law and Order needs to prevail.

was this guy one of you tenants

rainbowpromises wrote: And why was it your business but no one else's? Thankfully the cops didn't have your attitutde, dude. (or are you 5-0?)

He knows the crazy guy with the gun.

Restless Native wrote: [quote=eggcream][quote=Restless Native]It's a guy who doesn't want to come out of his house, and the cops have blown it 100x out of proportion. That's it.

Really, so the cops should have just ignored those gun shots? Just chuck it up to some disturbed drunk guy and let the neighbors be damned. 7 hours to get him to come out of his house, something his family couldn't do.

First off, they wouldn't allow the family or friends to have any contact with him, matter of fact they took a family member's cell phone when they overheard them trying to call the house, so you're wrong on that one. Apparently piping a PA system into a guy's window for 7 hours repeating his name and telling him they can "help him work this out" ad nauseum is the NYPD's cutting-edge 21st century method for dealing with this type of situation. They had the entire block on lockdown. It was the most incompetent operation I've ever seen, a clusterfuck considering the amount of manpower and resources they put into place for something that didn't necessitate it. And this is coming from a military vet who also has family members on the NYPD. I know the facts. You don't. End of story. :?

Even still, I took an enormous amount of satisfaction each time some pushy, nasally voiced yup would demand from us to know what was going on and I got the opportunity to tell them to mind their own fucking business because it wasn't their problem. The look on those faces, priceless.


Facts? Mother, father 3 boys, 1 girl. Recently moved back to 9th st. after a (quiet time) away. I would say more but for privacy sake I'm not. So don't assume you're the only one with the facts cause you know what happens when you do.

I thought the main point of this was the handling of the situation. Again, to you it's a guy who didn't want to come out of his house. To the residents on 9th st it's a lunatic shooting off a gun. How would you expect the cops to handle it.

Subject: Closing the Book on the Park Slope Shotgun Showdown

http://gridskipper.com/342720/closing-the-book-on-the-park-slope-shotgun-showdown

rainbowpromises wrote: [quote=Restless Native][quote=eggcream][quote=Restless Native]It's a guy who doesn't want to come out of his house, and the cops have blown it 100x out of proportion. That's it.

Really, so the cops should have just ignored those gun shots? Just chuck it up to some disturbed drunk guy and let the neighbors be damned. 7 hours to get him to come out of his house, something his family couldn't do.

First off, they wouldn't allow the family or friends to have any contact with him, matter of fact they took a family member's cell phone when they overheard them trying to call the house, so you're wrong on that one. Apparently piping a PA system into a guy's window for 7 hours repeating his name and telling him they can "help him work this out" ad nauseum is the NYPD's cutting-edge 21st century method for dealing with this type of situation. They had the entire block on lockdown. It was the most incompetent operation I've ever seen, a clusterfuck considering the amount of manpower and resources they put into place for something that didn't necessitate it. And this is coming from a military vet who also has family members on the NYPD. I know the facts. You don't. End of story. :?

Even still, I took an enormous amount of satisfaction each time some pushy, nasally voiced yup would demand from us to know what was going on and I got the opportunity to tell them to mind their own fucking business because it wasn't their problem. The look on those faces, priceless.


And why was it your business but no one else's? Thankfully the cops didn't have your attitutde, dude. (or are you 5-0?)

This thread's fun

Hey Restless, was the whole situation a clusterfuck because:

1) cops should have let family members work it out for themselves, even after gunshots?, or

2) cops shouldn't have been on scene in the first place?, or

3) cops should have taken out shooter forcibly in a lot less than 7hrs?, or

4) cops should have taken out shooter peaceably in a lot less than 7hrs?, or

5) Something I've not thought of?

I got to say, NYPD taking 7hrs to talk down a guy who's discharged and refused to relinquish a shotgun seems really...nice. Honestly, I'm fairly patient but that's ridiculous, those cops and equipment on scene could have been used somewhere else.

When I'm mayor you get two hours of crazy-time then it's tear gas, dogs and swat guys up the ying-yang.

Vote Boogieknight in 2009.

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Subject: Re: I just want to be accepted

Speaking of sounding "Brooklyn", did anyone here read "Last Exit To Brooklyn"? Great book.

Subject: Re: I just want to be accepted

Hamilton wrote: [quote=filmlover44]Speaking of sounding "Brooklyn", did anyone here read "Last Exit To Brooklyn"? Great book.

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I was a kid and lived in the area and knew most of the characters in the book.
The neighborhood wasn't as bleak as Selby presented it.

If you want to discuss it PM me

Ah, yeah. Selby saw the word through a very dark lens! PM on the way but it might be a great discussion!