Organic Food Market for Fulton St!
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This is interesting. It seems Fulton has changed from when I used to live over there on St. James Place. Used to be a liquor store on the corner and the Met Supermarket was really shabby. Last time I was there, the liquor store was gone and the Met had been upgraded. Still miss the neighborhood, as I always viewed it as a nice neighborhood to live in, but things change.
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drkman wrote: This is interesting. It seems Fulton has changed from when I used to live over there on St. James Place. Used to be a liquor store on the corner and the Met Supermarket was really shabby. Last time I was there, the liquor store was gone and the Met had been upgraded. Still miss the neighborhood, as I always viewed it as a nice neighborhood to live in, but things change.
The Liquor store has been gone for ten years!! It closed in '97. There's a Pharmacy in its place now. It's always been a nice neighborhood to live and has produced some of the best and brightest. Met...well Met is trying, I give them that...Green planet is on fulton betw. StJames and Washington..closer to washington ave.
Anyhow, where is the organic market located? -
bknest wrote: . Met...well Met is trying, I give them that...
Ha, Ha. Yea, Met was trying when I lived over there but they have gotten a whole lot better. The neighborhood has always been a great place to live and once people knew you were from the neighborhood, they watched your back. That's one of the things that I missed when I left from over there but nowadays I doubt I could move back over there since the price of renting an apartment has changed considerably.
On an off note, someone mentiond too me that BKNY had closed down. Has anything taken its place yet? -
drkman wrote: [quote=bknest]. Met...well Met is trying, I give them that...
Ha, Ha. Yea, Met was trying when I lived over there but they have gotten a whole lot better. The neighborhood has always been a great place to live and once people knew you were from the neighborhood, they watched your back. That's one of the things that I missed when I left from over there but nowadays I doubt I could move back over there since the price of renting an apartment has changed considerably.
On an off note, someone mentiond too me that BKNY had closed down. Has anything taken its place yet?
Yep thats exactly how it was/is. People try to make it out to be something else but I won't go there..Yes it's closed, as far as I know nothing has replaced it yet...I may be wrong though... -
When do you get home from work bknest? Last night when I was coming home I noticed there were 2 people in a nail salon, no one in golden crust, no one in soule, a couple of people in the pharmacy, no one in the bodega on washington and fulton, three people in green planet, no one in the drug front record store, no one in Joloffe (unfortuantely). Not bustling by any means, and this was around 7pm (after work for most professionals - tons of people getting out of the subway).
The fact that people were are Green Planet late on a Sunday night is a good thing I think... -
Anonymous wrote: When do you get home from work bknest? Last night when I was coming home I noticed there were 2 people in a nail salon, no one in golden crust, no one in soule, a couple of people in the pharmacy, no one in the bodega on washington and fulton, three people in green planet, no one in the drug front record store, no one in Joloffe (unfortuantely). Not bustling by any means, and this was around 7pm (after work for most professionals - tons of people getting out of the subway).
Yep and the fact that ppl patronize the other businesses on fulton street at a higher volume is a good thing too. Drug front?! And you know this how?! Do you indulge? Now to be honest I don't know how the brother sustains based on his inventory...but I know what goes on in this neighborhood and I don't know of that establishment selling drugs of any kind. I know the owner and have seen him cop weed(along w/ a lot of newcomers to the hood who when convenient will cop some herb in da hood). So what are they moving? Coke?! 88th would've been took his ass down..meth, maybe?!(there's no demand 4 it here)..heroin? I've never saw anyone w/ dope fiend tendencies in that store and it would be a line every morning if he was..that's assuming you know how dope fiends get down..I do. If you're going to imply that green planet gets more business than the various ones I've named then you are delusional. You haven't moved "us" all out yet and this stretch of fulton is showing it. I'm sure the nail and beauty salon get more play in a few hours than the greean planet gets all day.
The fact that people were are Green Planet late on a Sunday night is a good thing I think... -
Why all the hostility bknest? These posts are becoming comical.
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jp wrote: Why all the hostility bknest? These posts are becoming comical.
I don't think I'm being hostile or comical. -
bknest wrote: And queen once again PLEASE stop trying to gauge my emotions by reading a post.
Tell you what.
I'll stop assuming you're disgruntled if you stop WRITING like you are.
Deal?
Seriously, does the fact that five people have told you to not be so angry in here not clue you in to the fact that just MAYBE there's something about the way you write that's making us think that?
There's a proverb I've heard: "If one person says you're a horse, ignore him. If TWO people say you're a horse, start to get worried. But once three people are saying you're a horse, get yourself a saddle." You've got five people telling you that the way you write makes you sound pissed off; are you saying we're ALL mistaken?
...But, thanks for refusing to answer my question. There are those who want to contribute to bettering the community, and then there are those who just get off on complaining that things are going to hell in a handbasket; I just like knowing which sort I'm dealing with. -
queencallipygos wrote: [quote=bknest]And queen once again PLEASE stop trying to gauge my emotions by reading a post.
Tell you what.
I'll stop assuming you're disgruntled if you stop WRITING like you are.
Deal?
Seriously, does the fact that five people have told you to not be so angry in here not clue you in to the fact that just MAYBE there's something about the way you write that's making us think that?
There's a proverb I've heard: "If one person says you're a horse, ignore him. If TWO people say you're a horse, start to get worried. But once three people are saying you're a horse, get yourself a saddle." You've got five people telling you that the way you write makes you sound pissed off; are you saying we're ALL mistaken?
...But, thanks for refusing to answer my question. There are those who want to contribute to bettering the community, and then there are those who just get off on complaining that things are going to hell in a handbasket; I just like knowing which sort I'm dealing with.
Me playing the city planner game with you does nothing to improve the community. I've expressed how I feel about this stretch in previous posts:
Personally this stretch is fine to me(Green Planet included), it's not like there's a strip of vacant store fronts. If I need something that can't be found on Fulton street I go elsewhere..I'm not confined to my 4 block radius!! That's what I love about living in NYC...you have your Dekalbs, your Myrtles, and your Fulton streets, the differences in each strip is what makes New York...New York!!
And just because 5 people percieve me to be something doesn't make it true. I'm not pissed off at all, just stating my opinions about the nabe I grew up in. I'm sure if my opinions were more suited to others on here they wouldnt be percieved as hostile. And I LOVE what people selectively respond to. -
Just want to state something in regards to Clinton Hill and the posts that I have been reading. Note, I am only speaking from memory of when I used to live around there but I do pass through the neighborhood on a fairly consistent basis. It seems that some of the posters are belittling (and they may not be aware of it) the neighborhood and what the older residents are used to. Terminology like "sad stretch", "dirty bodegas" etc, is an insult to the residents who have been there for a long time. Those "dirty bodegas" were some of the only stores that would set up shop in the neighborhood and they served the community well, as they do in a lot of other communities in Brooklyn. That "sad stretch" did not appear sad to me when I lived over there. I knew that if I needed something all I had to do was walk down the block to Fulton and one of the establishments would have what I was looking for. If not, Downtown Brooklyn was still just a walk away. Those "thugs" that hang out in front of the bodegas were the protectors of many people that lived in the neighborhood, especially late at night.
If memory serves me right, I have passed by the "Green Market" and I was surprised to see it there. I have a friend that lives over there and she probably frequents the place on a consistent basis. It is great that some other establishments are moving in, but the ones that have been there, through the good and bad times, should not be so easily dismissed. They are part of the neighborhood and part of what makes it Clinton Hill. Without those establishments, Clinton Hill becomes just another generic brownstone neighborhood in Brooklyn. If that is what the neighborhood wants, then fine but too me, it changes the entire fabric of what the neighborhood is. Each neighborhood in Brooklyn used to have its own unique indentity, which was great but now, slowly, the neighborhoods are losing it and becoming homogenized. Pretty soon, you will not even find a Block Party in the summer in some of the neighborhoods. To sum it up, Green Market is a nice addition to the neighborhood but time will tell if the neighborhood will support it, and please do not dismiss the other establishments in the neighborhood because they do not meet your standards. They would not be there and surviving if they did not meet the neighborhood, on a whole, standards.
If I got it wrong and this is not how some of the posters feel, well then just ignore what I wrote and move on to the next exciting subject
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drkman wrote: Just want to state something in regards to Clinton Hill and the posts that I have been reading. Note, I am only speaking from memory of when I used to live around there but I do pass through the neighborhood on a fairly consistent basis. It seems that some of the posters are belittling (and they may not be aware of it) the neighborhood and what the older residents are used to. Terminology like "sad stretch", "dirty bodegas" etc, is an insult to the residents who have been there for a long time. Those "dirty bodegas" were some of the only stores that would set up shop in the neighborhood and they served the community well, as they do in a lot of other communities in Brooklyn. That "sad stretch" did not appear sad to me when I lived over there. I knew that if I needed something all I had to do was walk down the block to Fulton and one of the establishments would have what I was looking for. If not, Downtown Brooklyn was still just a walk away. Those "thugs" that hang out in front of the bodegas were the protectors of many people that lived in the neighborhood, especially late at night.
Thank you for this post. Let the posters on Brooklynian tell it and I'm just hostile, disgruntled and complaining(and I'm still trying to find these complaining posts outside of the one about the generalizations)...the people calling this a sad stretch with a black cloud over it are actually the ones complaining but that's fine cause most on here agree. I state my opinion and get barraged with questions about city planning and what would be my urban utopia. I state my opinion and get chastised about my tone.
If memory serves me right, I have passed by the "Green Market" and I was surprised to see it there. I have a friend that lives over there and she probably frequents the place on a consistent basis. It is great that some other establishments are moving in, but the ones that have been there, through the good and bad times, should not be so easily dismissed. They are part of the neighborhood and part of what makes it Clinton Hill. Without those establishments, Clinton Hill becomes just another generic brownstone neighborhood in Brooklyn. If that is what the neighborhood wants, then fine but too me, it changes the entire fabric of what the neighborhood is. Each neighborhood in Brooklyn used to have its own unique indentity, which was great but now, slowly, the neighborhoods are losing it and becoming homogenized. Pretty soon, you will not even find a Block Party in the summer in some of the neighborhoods. To sum it up, Green Market is a nice addition to the neighborhood but time will tell if the neighborhood will support it, and please do not dismiss the other establishments in the neighborhood because they do not meet your standards. They would not be there and surviving if they did not meet the neighborhood, on a whole, standards.
If I got it wrong and this is not how some of the posters feel, well then just ignore what I wrote and move on to the next exciting subject -
pitu wrote: [quote=sweet tea]MOD here.
Who mentioned anything about racism?
please remember that the primary rule of this site is to BE NICE. i'm going to suggest at this juncture that that includes giving other posters the benefit of the doubt and not jumping down each other's throats over perceived slights, particularly not without asking for clarification first.
this is supposedly a thread about a new organic grocery store. if it continues to be a thread about who is or isn't racist, mods can and will pull posts and give time outs. -
queencallipygos wrote: [quote=bknest]Why are ppl gettin so offended by me saying time will tell if the market will prosper? In my 2nd post I said I may be wrong..we shall see. I mean damn are people that emotionally tied to a store that hasn't been in the community a month yet?!
I don't think people are reacting because we're tied to the store.
I think people are reacting because your justification for "the novelty may wear off" was based on a racial stereotype.
I think it already got talked about pretty high upthread, bknest. Slings and arrows are not going to get anyone anywhere, and a non-accusatory tone (thx drkman!) will get the message across better.
This board tries to be a place for civil discussion about some difficult contentious issues. Everyone's opinion is welcome, if it can be expressed in a civil way. We don't want to be another internet flame station where people yell at each other all day.sweet tea wrote: MOD here.
p.s. I was pulling quotes from two different places, so I wasn't done with that post...
please remember that the primary rule of this site is to BE NICE. i'm going to suggest at this juncture that that includes giving other posters the benefit of the doubt and not jumping down each other's throats over perceived slights, particularly not without asking for clarification first.
this is supposedly a thread about a new organic grocery store. if it continues to be a thread about who is or isn't racist, mods can and will pull posts and give time outs.
I think this got off on a bad foot...sheesh. -
pitu wrote: [quote=queencallipygos][quote=bknest]Why are ppl gettin so offended by me saying time will tell if the market will prosper? In my 2nd post I said I may be wrong..we shall see. I mean damn are people that emotionally tied to a store that hasn't been in the community a month yet?!
I don't think people are reacting because we're tied to the store.
I think people are reacting because your justification for "the novelty may wear off" was based on a racial stereotype.
I think it already got talked about pretty high upthread, bknest. Slings and arrows are not going to get anyone anywhere, and a non-accusatory tone (thx drkman!) will get the message across better.
This board tries to be a place for civil discussion about some difficult contentious issues. Everyone's opinion is welcome, if it can be expressed in a civil way. We don't want to be another internet flame station where people yell at each other all day.sweet tea wrote: MOD here.
p.s. I was pulling quotes from two different places, so I wasn't done with that post...
please remember that the primary rule of this site is to BE NICE. i'm going to suggest at this juncture that that includes giving other posters the benefit of the doubt and not jumping down each other's throats over perceived slights, particularly not without asking for clarification first.
this is supposedly a thread about a new organic grocery store. if it continues to be a thread about who is or isn't racist, mods can and will pull posts and give time outs.
I think this got off on a bad foot...sheesh.
I think I refuted her racial stereotype post. I didn't stereotype anyone. This was part of my reply to queens post about stereotyping:
I'm a realist, I deal in reality. What stereotype are you referring to? That the majority of black people don't eat organic food?! Or that people on certain socioeconomic levels aren't clamoring for a green market, whole foods, etc?
I'm being very civil. I havent cursed anyone or called them out their name. I see much worse on this site daily and people dont get constantly called out on it at all.
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