mugging on park place and 6th
I just passed the aftermath of a mugging of a woman. The cops were searching for her bag on sterling and on parkplace bet 6th and 5th and she was sitting in an ambulance. This happened between 9:15 and 9:50, the space of time in which I visited someone two blocks away and poopooed the suggestion from my mother that I share a cab to go the short distance back to my house. (I did not attach this to the previous thread on muggings because there was so much irrelevant posting following the important message). Another woman was mugged on my mother's block in the neighborhood on Sunday. This is really distressing for women around here...
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The way things are going, brooklynian.com will need a new, separate crime police blotter section.
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This board is basically a police blotter. Makes up about 80% of posts. Another 19% is about how the businesses around here suck. Everything else is in that last 1%.
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i would tend to disagree, especially on the Park Slope board
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I forgot a percentage for "My landlord is fucking me over." -- big chunk of the pie.
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There used to be a big chunk for "Park Slope Parents and their kids should be quarantined under the streets" but those seem to have faded.
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hehe
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And then there are the anti-Yup/Hipster threads...On the flip side, threads about (the antithesis of hipster) places like 7-11 and Olive Garden.
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filmlover44 wrote: http://www.timeout.com/newyork/articles/around-town/6733/free-ride
So men don't get mugged? How progressive of them to include all but straight men...women and genderqueer only apply.
http://www.cae-bklyn.org/
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that web site says it works to help those "especially affected by violence." would you argue that women are not at more risk of being mugged than men?
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totally anecdotal, i know, but most of the people i know who've been mugged are men.
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eggcream wrote: [quote=filmlover44]http://www.timeout.com/newyork/articles/around-town/6733/free-ride
So men don't get mugged? How progressive of them to include all but straight men...women and genderqueer only apply.
http://www.cae-bklyn.org/
Stay safe!
Call them up and ask! They will be happy to explain it to you. You should certainly feel free to set up your own services for straight men. -
sweet tea wrote: totally anecdotal, i know, but most of the people i know who've been mugged are men.
And yet...Totally anecdotal but most of the people I know who have been raped are women. -
mr. met wrote: that web site says it works to help those "especially affected by violence." would you argue that women are not at more risk of being mugged than men?
...or a better question might be...does "affected by violence" only apply to muggings? -
Thanks so much for the helpful link to rightrides!
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true, filmlover. i guess people chose muggings because that's what this thread is about.
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sweet tea wrote: totally anecdotal, i know, but most of the people i know who've been mugged are men.
Agreed. Sometimes I think muggers are sexist and stereotype women as making less money than men. If I were after money, I'd go after some clean cut man in a nice suit that seemed drunk rather than a young woman wearing a Back to the Land T-shirt unless she was also wearing high heels and carrying a bunch of new iphones. -
mr. met wrote: true, filmlover. i guess people chose muggings because that's what this thread is about.
Indeed. My point (to eggcream really) is that this is not the only reason that these organizations exist!
It has been mentioned here and elsewhere that women are the specific targets of the current muggings.
http://www.news12.com/BK/topstories/article?id=205559
So, having been mugged myself and having a daughter who lives here with me, I'm not going to apologize for posting the links to some organizations that can help women to feel and be safe regardless of the reason that they don't feel safe!
(01/09/08) PARK SLOPE - Multiple muggings have left some women on edge as they walk around the usually quiet neighborhood of Park Slope.
"We're very concerned because I think we all assume this neighborhood is very safe," says resident Louis Rosen. "Walking around at night isn't something we generally fear."
Police say muggers have been targeting women near Eighth Avenue and Prospect Park West for the past few weeks. On Sunday, police arrested two suspects believed to be responsible for at least one robbery.
"This is not a crime spree," says 78th Precinct Deputy Inspector John Argenziano. "We had a couple of bag snatches, a number of robberies in December, but everything's under control." -
raw wrote: [quote=sweet tea]totally anecdotal, i know, but most of the people i know who've been mugged are men.
Agreed. Sometimes I think muggers are sexist and stereotype women as making less money than men. If I were after money, I'd go after some clean cut man in a nice suit that seemed drunk rather than a young woman wearing a Back to the Land T-shirt unless she was also wearing high heels and carrying a bunch of new iphones.
Well, there are actually statistics that show that while women are more afraid of being the victims of muggings, men are victims of muggings more often (I'm probably going to going to get slammed for not providing a link cause I'm lazy).
The victims of the current rash of muggings on 8th Avenue are female. -
filmlover44, I will bail you out.
Men are indeed far more likely to be victims of violent crime than women:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/vsxtab.htm -
that doesn't really solve the debate. we're talking specifically about muggings, not all violent crimes.
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mr. met wrote: that doesn't really solve the debate. we're talking specifically about muggings, not all violent crimes.
Page 15, table 2. Males seem to lead in all categories of violent robbery. FWIW.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus05.pdf -
except for purse-snatiching/pocket picking
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mr. met wrote: except for purse-snatiching/pocket picking
Which is not actually listed under "crimes of violence," you will note. Additionally, I would tend to view purse snatching and pocket picking as two different sorts of crimes, worthy of separate designation. One is an overt use of force, one is covert involving stealth.
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Subject: those "especially affected by violence"
My father is a veteran NYPD officer. He says that actually men may be targeted more frequently than women. The reason is because women will typically scream and cry for help thus creating noise and awareness of the crime. Men are typically less noisy when being mugged. -
Subject: Re: those "especially affected by violence"
bdrlds wrote: My father is a veteran NYPD officer. He says that actually men may be targeted more frequently than women. The reason is because women will typically scream and cry for help thus creating noise and awareness of the crime. Men are typically less noisy when being mugged.
That is it.
Next time I get mugged I am going to scream like a little girl and try to turn that stereotype around!
I have another theory. Seems that lots of the muggings in the 77th are done by kids looking to make themselves feel like big men. Are they going to make themselves feel bigger by jacking a woman or a man? -
LOL!! Good idea. I agree to your theory. I do think that the "I'm tougher cuz a brought down a guy" may be valid. It seems more like a rite of passage than a need for a couple of bucks.
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frankly, i think men are a lot more likely to be spacey about their surroundings. women are CONSTANTLY told to be fearful, so i bet they're a bit harder to surprise.
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sweet tea wrote: frankly, i think men are a lot more likely to be spacey about their surroundings. women are CONSTANTLY told to be fearful, so i bet they're a bit harder to surprise.
I think that is a very astute observation. And most of the anecdotal stories I have heard of muggings around here, my own included, more often than not end without a mugging taking place when the intended victim is paying attention and not able to be taken by surprise. -
In a crime situation, screaming *like a girl* is always recommended, although it might not get you the attention you need it sure couldn't hurt. I know tall women report getting messed with less, unless of course they are mistaken for men . . . it's all so individual.
For anyone interested in crime reporting and statistics in general, I just set up a thread in our little-used Brooklyn and Beyond board, in response to a different discussion on this site talking about crime now compared to 10 or 15 years ago . . .
http://brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=412842#412842
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