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Support the PPW Bike Lane! - Page 4 — Brooklynian

Support the PPW Bike Lane!

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  • booklaw
    booklaw
    It's kinda a self-correcting problem. The folks who are most bitter about changes in the neighborhood from the way it used to be when their parents were born here are the most likely to find rising resale prices irresistible... And thus to leave the neighborhood. They also have the least keeping them here... Just memories of what is no more.
  • piano
    piano
    ringrunner wrote: The counter anti-bike lane event was really fun

    http://whatyourdonotknowbecauseyouarenotme.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-feel-good-about-this-morning.html
    So the pro bike lane people protested the protest by blocking the bike lane? I don't understand. What happened to the people who used that to get to work this morning? I assumed the protests would be where the farmer market is. Is it even legal to protest in the bike lane - wouldn't that be the same as if they protested in the middle of Flatbush or PPW? And it's clear from the photo that the southbound traffic isn't moving. It's nice to see so many people supporting the lane, but it just seems odd to me.
  • ringrunner
    ringrunner
    Yea we blocked the bike lane a little, but the cops kept things moving.

    But, the auto tragic was not moving because there was a rally going on.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Was anyone selling t-shirts at the protest or counter protest? They are usually the smartest ones.
  • ringrunner
    ringrunner
    No sales.

    Lots of nice homemade signs.

    TA had free coffee and was giving away sweet sounding bike bells.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Next time I'll come and sell things to the old people.
  • aquamann
    aquamann
    i love old people.
  • piano
    piano
    Aquamann wrote: i love old people.
    Yummmmmm. Soylent Green
  • raulism
    raulism
    BrooklynEm wrote: This bike lane has to be the most dangerous idea ever thought of in the history of Park Slope.
    In the last few months, a pedestrian was struck and is now brain-dead in an accident right outside my window. Another woman was killed about a block away from me. In both cases, cars were responsible for the carnage.

    I really don't appreciate BrooklynEm's over-the-top rhetoric when there are some really dangerous things happening.

    For the record, I'm a big supporter of the bike lane, and I brought my 2 year-old to the protest this morning. But I agree with both sides that we should improve safety. Bikers should follow the laws... and so should cars.
  • brooklynem
    brooklynem
    It's not hard to figure out why the anti- bike lane people were outnumbered at the protest. THEY HAVE JOBS and can't spend a weekday morning holding signs up at a rally.
  • ringrunner
    ringrunner
    I was there.

    There anti-bike lane people all seamed to be past retirement age. (No disrespect intended.)

    The pro-bike lane people did not have time to hang around because we had to go to work.. (they did, not me.)
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    BrooklynEm wrote: It's not hard to figure out why the anti- bike lane people were outnumbered at the protest. THEY HAVE JOBS and can't spend a weekday morning holding signs up at a rally.
    The anti-bike lane people picked the time and place. There just aren't as many of them.
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    anthonycm wrote: Yes, let's eliminate all the bike lanes, encourage even more cars on the road (more noise, pollution, etc.), more unsafe biking for adults and kids, and help grow even fatter Americans. That's exactly what NYC needs.
    Gee, just what NYC needs, more people telling them what they need or don't need should or shouldn't do.
  • anthonycm
    anthonycm
    eggcream wrote:

    Gee, just what NYC needs, more people telling them what they need or don't need should or shouldn't do.
    You're right. What was I thinking advocating for my point of view, pointing out the negatives of removing the bike lanes in a post about the pros and cons of the bike lanes?
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    Well, there's one thing the hotly contested bike lane can't do! And that's getting me to Fiore's Deli in Hoboken for a muzz and meat sandwich. Which I hope to get to within an hour or so. Although if the NY/NJPA did create such a path, I'd support it.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Idlewild wrote: Well, there's one thing the hotly contested bike lane can't do! And that's getting me to Fiore's Deli in Hoboken for a muzz and meat sandwich. Which I hope to get to within an hour or so. Although if the NY/NJPA did create such a path, I'd support it.
    That sounds awesome, and potentially worthy of a Brooklynian road trip! We should try to make this happen.
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    You've been?
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Idlewild wrote: You've been?
    Not yet. :cry:
  • nitcomb
    nitcomb
    If the city really wants to cash in they should start ticketing drivers for red lights, speeding etc.

    Bike riders should be ticketed as well.
    I ride all over the hood and try to obey basic traffic rules, but there are too many riders (especially near PPK) who do not.
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=Idlewild]You've been?
    Not yet. :cry:

    Vito's, also in Hoboken, has the better muzz by a very thin margin. But, Fiore's definitely makes a better sandwich.
  • joehill
    joehill

    the results of Brad Lander's survey are in: http://bradlander.com/ppwsurvey

    shows overwhelming support for the bike lane.

  • idlewild
    idlewild

    Marty Gives His POV on the PPW Bike Lane

    I have nothing against the bike lane, but the City really needs to clarify, as in MARK & SHOW SIGNS, that it's a two-way lane.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    3 year later:Emboldened by the success of the bike lane, the election of new mayor and media coverage of pedestrian deaths, pedestrian and bike advocates are going a step further....By establishing far more 20 MPH zones, coupled with more enforcement of traffic laws, they would like to work toward no pedestrian deaths.Known as "Vision Zero", they got together today at GAP:
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    https://www.facebook.com/events/419454441518586/?ref=22
  • mike dunlap
    mike dunlap
    Interesting to read back through this thread and see the comments about bikes being dangerous, a bigger threat than cars, etc.What an epic, staggering prediction failure. People that opposed the PPW bike lane should be ashamed and embarrassed. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/nyregion/after-a-sons-death-parents-turn-their-grief-to-activism.html
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Not many people want to admit it, but we are not going to really reduce pedestrian deaths unless pedestrians AND cars change their behavior
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