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illegal donation bins popping up everywhere — Brooklynian

illegal donation bins popping up everywhere

imageHave you noticed the faux charity donation bins popping up on the North Crown Hts sidewalks on your walk to the subways? Well they are really for profit companies. Sanitation explains on their website that, “under Local Law No. 31 of 2007, the placement of publicly accessible collection bins on New York City property or property maintained by New York City, or on any public sidewalk or roadway is illegal,” and concerned residents are invited to submit a form requesting their removal.http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/downloads/pdf/contact/requests/misc_request/DS69.pdf
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  • Is this the USAgain people again?
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    Alert readers quig and staceyjoy report that the bright red clothes dumpster and graffiti magnet, which we complained about yesterday, has been shown the curb. Many people donating to USAgain think...
  • Hah, I have noticed a couple of these. One under the shuttle tracks on Prospect and one on Sterling and Franklin, SE corner. The pictures on them are perfectly ambiguous. In the meantime, can people use these bins for storing the results of their dogwalking?
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    My conscience tells me that would be appropriate "just" treatment of the for profit entities that imply that they do charitable work YET DO NOT.

    However, because the bins are rarely emptied, I suspect that they would reek and the neighbors would be further punished by the existence of the bins.

    So, I vote no.
  • I don]t see any company markings yet, except the usual happy slogans on them trying too hard to look like what they are not. Like these seen in South slope;
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    Have you spotted the new donation bin that suddenly appeared on 14th Street and 4th [...]
    4 new ones just popped up near Nostrand.
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    There are several near Franklin Ave as well.
     
  • We have one of those now on the corner of Grand Ave and Prospect Place. Ick. I guess I'll ask for it to be removed. I don't own the property next to the Bin, but that doesn't matter?
  • If it is on the sidewalk or other public property you can send in form to have it removed! here is the link to form. the city has its own program that is truly for non profits and does not want these phonys around. But you have to send in the form. thanks!http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/downloads/pdf/contact/requests/misc_request/DS69.pdf
  • I'm mailing it off today. I hope everyone does this to remove these fake "donation" boxes. I always try to donate my clothes and shoes to the Camba Women's shelter in Park Slope. They eagerly accept clothes and it goes directly to the residents.
  • Is there no online submission form? Is .gov that archaic? Anyways, saw one in North PS, so whomever this company is they have long tentacles.
  • One box just moved from Franklin and Sterling to Rogers and Sterling over night! Both places were curiously in front of empty lots , as if no one will notice?
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    The owner of an empty lot is less likely to complain about a bin in front of their property.

    This is the kind of stuff that Community Board 8 might be willing to pursue, so readers may want to email them in addition to sending the above form to the city.


    We also have a new City Council rep. 

    She is in the process of creating an office in 1000 Dean St, and might be interested in showing that she is responsive to such concerns.
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    Laurie A. Cumbo, New York City Council, 35th District 


  • NY1 did a story about clothing drop bins this week. The story mentioned that even when the Department of Sanitation removes illegally placed bins on public property, there isn't enough to deter the organizations who operate the bins to put them up somewhere else. Maybe someone should have legislation proposed to change that.
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    One local lawmaker says that New Yorkers trying to donate old items of clothing in some of the large drop-off boxes around the city should think twice, as they could be helping someone pocket some cash.
  • The bin on the southeast corner of Prospect and Franklin has been given the orange sticker of doom! The process of having the bins removed is quite slow but mailing in those forms really does get a result eventually. I like that even though the form gets sent via snail mail, they do send an email confirmation and give the timeframe for having the bin removed. I forgot to check the bin under the shuttle tracks on Prospect. I sent a form for that one also.. hopefully it will follow suit shortly, if it hasn't already.
  • whynot_31
    edited April 2014
    During this mornings walk, I saw 4 donation bins, each of them marked by the Department of Sanitation with the orange sticker of doom, or a grease pen.

    Good job.
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    After I submitted the paperwork to sanitation they put on the orange stickers. It took about a month for the bin to be removed. One week later.... It's back in the exact same location at grand and prospect. They painted the side with blue paint I assume to hide where the sanitation stickers were. Part of the reason I requested removal is that people leave garbage next to the bin. Argh! This means war!
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    Is there a point where it is ethical to fill the bins with trash?

    Perhaps non smelly items?

    Could large stickers be placed on them that say "this bin does not support any recognized charity, and should be removed. Call 311"

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  • When I walk my dog past it I consider putting my "trash" in it. But I'm too nice to do something that gross.
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    Me too.

    I am thinking large, inoffensive and worthless items that fill the bins quickly.

    Maybe people could confuse them with paper recycling bins, and the stickers could encourage same?
  • Brooklynian
    edited March 2014
    @burningorange great photos! Of not so great bins. I second the motion that a guerilla sticker campaign could be launched to obscure the purpose of these bins. VistaPrint anyone?
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    I'm too cheap to buy and use blue spray paint.

    But what I am willing to do is order a bunch of these signs and decals for free:




    Picture 1

    I would cross out where it says "building", and write "neighborhood".

    After it says "please bring your recyclables to", I would write "here" 

    Mamacita, I believe in Spanish I would write "barrio" and "aqui".


  • DISCLAIMER: FOR AMUSEMENT ONLY. THE ABOVE TEXTUAL ENTITIES SHOULD NOT BE MISCONSTRUED AS AN INCITEMENT TO VANDALIZE.
  • whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    Based on the article mugofmead linked, I've just done some research and learned that Sanitation can only give the Orange Tag to bins on public property, and that the process works as follows.

    1.   A Sanitation worker with a car puts an orange tag on them, or writes on them with a grease pen.

    2.   A few days/weeks later, a different Sanitation worker (one with a truck) comes by and looks for orange tagged bins, and removes them.

    However, between 1 and 2, the company often moves the bin to private property and/or removes the tag.    The owner of the private property is not asked whether he wants this bin, but they are often too large for them to move onto public property.   

    Hence, the solution may be to:

    A.  Verify that a private property owner is not consenting to the bin, and then

    B.   Move the bin onto public property.   One may want it to be slightly in the flow of pedestrian traffic, so that a variety of people will fill regularly fill out the form.     


    This procedure may cause the sticker employee and the truck employee to be able to do their work before the people that own the bin move it back.    

    I'm thinking two guys could easily move a bin a dozen feet if they were smart enough to use a soapy solution on the sidewalk as lubricant.


      
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    Yes, very true. This is purely for shits and giggles -as are most online conversations.
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    Moving bins that were placed on private property (without the consent of the owner) to public property, does not seem like vandalism.

    Depositing recycling in them does not seem like vandalism.

    Reporting them to the city seems appropriate.

    Calling the owners of the bins (973-732-5460) and telling them that a large number of their bins will soon be moved onto public property and/or tagged because they are already on public property, seems like something they might even be appreciated.

    ....it seems as if people could do as little, or as much as about this issue as they are comfortable doing.
        

  • I am very excited by your ideas Whynot_31! Turn them into recycling bins, what an inspiration. It doesn't seem out of line since they are already posing as something they are not. I was contemplating pouring a gallon can pf paint on one out of frustration.
  • Since the sidewalk is public property they should not be there, but the difficulty is getting the city agency to respond quickly. however if it were put in the street then it is much easier to have removed. what if only we could just move them onto the street and call sanitation to pick up in dumptruck. No sticker needed.
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    Yes, moving them as far as a parking spot on the street crossed my mind.

    It would take 10 minutes to do, and prompt irritated drivers to informed 311 that it was taking up a parking spot.      

    Yes, taking up a parking spot on a public street would likely generate a much quicker and affirmative response than inconveniencing pedestrians. The problem with such a plan might be finding a parking spot nearby.

    So, I suppose a small team could wander the neighborhood, moving them onto the street when possible, and -when not possible- merely moving them onto public property.

    I think it is safe to assume that the bins in front of vacant lots do not have the consent of the property owner.   If a bin is in front of a bodega, I'd get permission from the bodega operator of the bodega before proceeding.
      
  • Could only find a thumbnail, but here's one that was "shown the curb" a few years ago in Prospect Heights. Never did find out exactly how the bin ended up on the street like this
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  • I'm willing to give this a shot :)
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2014
    This article indicates that in June 2013, the city removed bins in The Bronx neighborhood of Riverdale owned by Viltex, the same company that owns the blue bins that have appeared throughout western Crown Heights:


    There have been pretty many related struggles around NYC:



    Viltex is headquartered in Newark, NJ

    This Canadian video explains the business model:

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