illegal donation bins popping up everywhere
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I'm even more disgusted now than I was 15 minutes ago...Just called 311 to file a complaint to Sanitation about this bin having "re-appeared" & wanting it removed....Shockingly 311 says they cannot pass the complaint along directly to Sanitation. They need to mail me a form, I need to fill it out & mail it back, then Sanitation decides from there...Blah..blah...And we all turn old and gray looking at these damn things...Ugh!!! Seriously??? Does anyone know a quicker way to get this eyesore removed permanently?
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The city does what it can, but (as explained in this thread) its resources are limited, and it has procedural and resource constraints It may need residents to do what it legally can not do:---> Move these bins onto the street, where the city can have an easier time removing them.
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Ugh, the one on St Johns and Washington is also back! How is this possible! It is already stickered for removal though.
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Yeah, the jerks removed the one on Park Place, between Classon and Franklin. It was ticketed for removal. Then they put a new, non-ticketed one its place. Argh.
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Imagine that you drive Viltex's flatbed truck.....In addition to collecting the contents of the bins, your job is to find locations for the new bins on your truck, and rescue any that are tagged (either by orange sticker or grease pen) by the city for removal.The firm then paints over the grease pen and/or removes the sticker, ensuring their ongoing productivity.
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If they are left on the sidewalk are they technically abandoned? I mean is it OK for us to move them or put our own stickers on them that allert donors of the false promise of charity?
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I do not give legal advice.I do not object to helping the city overcome its procedural and resource constraints.
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Now I'm noticing these things everywhere. However, the ones I tend to see coincidentally (or not) seem to be located just beyond the reaches of public domain on private property. Coming back from the post office on Empire this afternoon, I noticed the laundromat at the corner of Empire and Rogers has one. It even has the logo of the laundromat on it. (Why do I suspect that the motivations to have the collection box there are not strictly charitable?)Wouldn't it be great if legislation were to be proposed to address the issue?
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Some property owners agree to have them on their private property, and receive payment for same.
I would not want a law that outlaws such contracts/use. -
My favored bin (under the shuttle tracks on Prospect) disappeared for a day but now a sibling has taken its place. It is not the exact same bin but a very similar one, and has been placed several feet to the east of where the old one was. There is clearly new paint on the side where it was likely marked for removal previously at a different location..
This company has no qualms about thumbing their nose at the current city laws in place...
Also, I saw one of the blue bins in Williamsburg when I happened to be there yesterday. Maybe looking for some vintage pieces
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I can only imagine how many trucker caps are collected by the ones in Williamsburg.
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I wonder if appropriating one of these bins would be viewed as theft. I could see repurposing them as a secure storage container, especially with the help of a welder and a torch, both of which I have.
Eastbloc, if something is left on the sidewalk along the street, then isn't it actually considered trash? So, if that is the case, altering, moving, destroying "trash" wouldn't be considered grafitti, theft, or vandalism, right?
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Last night I saw one of these bins at Grand and Prospect that had it's door open. As I walked by, I tried to close the flap however I couldn't because the bin was totally full of donated items. I'm not sure why, but I had figured that these bins were very rarely being used and that the company was just managing to aggregate enough items to scrape a profit. This may not be true..
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As evidenced by all of the boxes labeled "free stuff" one sees on local sidewalks, people hate to throw away things that once had value.
The clothing bins harness these feelings, and make it convenient for the donor. -
Rather than "harness" I would say they redirect the intention for the feeling of giving to the needy into profit for the few.
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Exploit.
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Oh my lord. The bin is back for the 3rd time at prospect and grand but this time it's made of particle board! It just has an open hole to throw your items in...
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This is beyond ridiculous! Anyone have a property facing one of these bins? Because if we could set up a camera facing the bin perhaps we could catch the truck delivering them? Maybe that would peek the authorities interest?
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No need for a camera.Beyond having Sanitation take the bins that are on public property, the city doesn't seem to have any means to go after the companies. They don't seem to be able to fine the truck for "littering".Despite the title of this thread, the bins themselves are not illegal. ....merely their placement on public property is...Via the above complaint procedure, the city has to demonstrate that the bin annoys someone before it can take action.
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They paint over the collection signs and numbers painted on the sign. Perhaps take a pic of 'em to prove they have not moved? the painting, plus new stickers, seems to be their trick.
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The city does what it can, but (as explained in this thread) its resources are limited, and it has procedural and resource constraints It may need residents to do what it legally can not do:---> Move these bins onto the street, where the city can have an easier time removing them.
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Maybe a simple way to render them unusable, like superglue? I'd be willing to volunteer a weekend going around to shut them down
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They paint over the collection signs and numbers painted on the sign. Perhaps take a pic of 'em to prove they have not moved? the painting, plus new stickers, seems to be their trick.
The bins usually disappear for a few hours/days and then another (similar) bin appears, often with evidence of painting over the sticker/grease paint. So technically, they do move.
So frustrating though... they are being used heavily too. The bin of choice that I watch under the shuttle tracks on Prospect was overflowing the other day and had items and bags scattered all around it.
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Yes, the bins are clearly well used. As I look east and west of us, I see fewer bins.
I speculate that is because they fill up less quickly in those areas, and therefore less profitable.
Until we effectively increase the costs of doing business here, or decrease the return, this will be a game of whack a mole:
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My caulking gun is getting readied with my personal favorite: Seamer Mate.
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Believe me...I despise these bins and would like to see them disappear and have called sanitation about them several times. But my fear is that if we seal them closed, folks who have come to leave their "donations" in the bins will of course be unable to open them, and therefore will just dump their bags of stuff on the sidewalk next to the bins, and we'll be stuck with a bigger, unruly mess of piles of clothes and shoes on all of our street corners for days or weeks....Not sure this will serve our purposes and may actually just cause a diffrtent problem. Thoughts? Alternatives?
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Pallet jack.
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Maybe attaching a bold large font note explaining what a scam these are with the web address to this discussion will cause people to stop feeding the bin.
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