Where did you come from?
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devincf wrote:
I see. I feel I've met some very nice local people. Empirically I've lived most of my life in inner-city neighborhoods not suburbs. Politically I support equality of opportunity, and the peaceful dismantling of old divisions and power structures, not their reinstatement. Subjectively I experience little or no fear in my daily life. And I've often found in a group situation, if people's opinions on a subject divide 70:30 I'm in the 30. So I can't identify with your 'mostly'. What's more, if there is a large contingent of reactionary frightened suburbanite groupthinkers, I seem to have totally missed them somehow. Maybe they hang out more on the PS board?
Anyway, I came here originally because while i lived her for many years, most of my friends were from outside of the neighborhood. I thought it would be a nice place to meet local people. It ended up being mostly a reactionary group of frightened suburbanites and groupthinkers, sadly.
So I suggest either your perception or mine is quite wrong, sadly.devincf wrote:
Good for you! There's an old saying: "quit while you're ahead".
I did get some great freelance work from this board, though! -
That's a pretty weird use of "empirically." There's a PRINCESS BRIDE quote that fits here - a big smile to the first person who knows what it is. Unless of course you're relying on observation and theory when it comes to recounting your own life experiences. Maybe you're an amnesiac and you only have evidence of living in inner cities but no memory of it.
And hey, maybe the regulars and mods of this board have become less of a bunch of clique-driven bores, but I strongly doubt that. Judging by the empirical evidence of the posts, to use your word. -
Who DOESN'T know Princess Bride back and forth... :roll: Critic ordinaire and that's the best reference you could dig up?
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You gotta keep it simple for the cheap seats, Why Fi. The masterbaters in the house.
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devincf wrote: The masterbaters in the house.
When we've been in the neighborhood for 'many years,' will we refer to ourselves in the third person, too? I can't wai- uh, the WhyFi can't wait... -
I'm trying to get to the tortured sense of that dis. Should I pretend that the sentence reads "The masterbater's in the house" when going back over that zinger? Or is it some other utterly futile and completely pointless personal attack you're making?
I'm rooting for you to get interesting, sport. We can work together to make that happen. -
devincf wrote: Should I pretend that the sentence reads "The masterbater's in the house" when going back over that zinger?
well, i suppose you have a choice: you can read what you posted as either a fragment or a sentence containing a typo.
it's your call. we're all rooting for you, too. -
Sweet tea, you're correct. That sentence fragment would have been best served by being attached to the previous sentence with a semicolon. I thought about doing that, but then I decided that I wanted that post to have a more conversational tone - the semicolon, to me, wouldn't have indicated the proper beat between the phrases. I was aiming at the cadence of real speech. While the fragment is technically improper, I think that stylistically it works.
Or I could totally claim I cut and pasted the sentence from somewhere else. -
Unless you think that the spelling of "masterbaters" was accidental or incorrect. I was doing a little callback to Why Fi's previous spelling debacle.
Boy, I'm totally confused now. You guys really can get a fella on the semantic ropes! Call 311. -
Does anyone know what neighborhood Nostrand Avenue/Rutland Road-Midwood Street (where I grew up many years ago) is considered these days??? (Crown Heights? East Flatbush?)??
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sweet tea wrote: well, i suppose you have a choice: you can read what you posted as either a fragment or a sentence containing a typo.
Precisely.devincf wrote: Or I could totally claim I cut and pasted the sentence from somewhere else.
http://www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/green_day/dookie/longview.txt
So, you want to get interesting? Okay - we have a common acquaintance. This person said that you're a little wienie and that you don't really have any marketable skills, so you got a job from a friend with a website. That's still not quite cuttin' it, so for every new person that moves in to the neighborhood, you get pretty bitter; you blame them for every dollar that your rent goes up. In a futile attempt to exact the only revenge you can, you post under the persona of a tough, gritty New Yorker (born and bred!) and you ridicule others for expressing the same fears that you feel every day. Sounds about right, right? -
Not really accurate on almost any level, but impressively creepy! Sadly I can't return the favor, as I have never even thought about you when logged off this board, let alone talked about you.
I am curious who this person is, though - they can't know me that well judging by your very faulty information. -
devincf wrote: That's a pretty weird use of "empirically." Unless of course you're relying on observation and theory when it comes to recounting your own life experiences. Maybe you're an amnesiac and you only have evidence of living in inner cities but no memory of it.
I use "empirically" to describe a residential history which could in principle be independently and objectively confirmed by evidence. This is a different kind of claim from not being reactionary, not engaging in groupthink, and not living in fear, all of which are subjective (unless you could measure fear by my adrenalin levels). You can take me at my word for these three and except me from this slur, or form your own opinion from I don't know what. If this seems weird, you might want to read some epistomology.devincf wrote:
Judging by your highly subjective interpretation of that empirical evidence (we can hardly tally up each post and put a number on its clique-driven boreness). I disagree. You blanket label a group of people as reactionary frightened suburbanites and groupthinkers, and I think that's plain wrong, not to mention inflammatory. Picking at spelling or word usage is a pathetic substitute for taking it back, 'staying the course', or (preferably) just going away.
And hey, maybe the regulars and mods of this board have become less of a bunch of clique-driven bores, but I strongly doubt that. Judging by the empirical evidence of the posts, to use your word. -
devincf wrote: I am curious who this person is, though - they can't know me that well judging by your very faulty information.
Keep tellin' yourself that, and as was suggested earlier, quit while you're ahead. -
Minneapolis, MN
Burlington, VT
Washington, DC
Burlington, VT
Flushing, Queens
Murray Hill
Greenwich Village
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Does anyone know what neighborhood Nostrand Avenue/Rutland Road-Midwood Street (where I grew up many years ago) is considered these days??? (Crown Heights? East Flatbush?)??
I work near there and think it's the border of Crown Heights and E. Flatbush -
mixergirl wrote:
ThanksDoes anyone know what neighborhood Nostrand Avenue/Rutland Road-Midwood Street (where I grew up many years ago) is considered these days??? (Crown Heights? East Flatbush?)??
I work near there and think it's the border of Crown Heights and E. Flatbush
That's what I thought, but these days neighborhood borderlines and names change so rapidly that I wasn't sure! -
WhyFi wrote: [quote=devincf]I am curious who this person is, though - they can't know me that well judging by your very faulty information.
Keep tellin' yourself that, and as was suggested earlier, quit while you're ahead.
I don't know what to tell you, chief. Your facts are just plain wrong. But I spoke to someone who knows you and they told me you're a kiddie toucher*. Don't bother trying to deny it!
*EDIT: THIS IS A SARCASTIC USE OF HYPERBOLE. THIS CLAIM IS IN NO WAY MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS LITERAL, TRUE OR EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING REALITY. IT IS CONJECTURE AND SATIRE.
WHYFI IS A TOTAL WHINER, THOUGH. -
devincf wrote: [quote=WhyFi][quote=devincf]I am curious who this person is, though - they can't know me that well judging by your very faulty information.
Keep tellin' yourself that, and as was suggested earlier, quit while you're ahead.
I don't know what to tell you, chief. Your facts are just plain wrong. But I spoke to someone who knows you and they told me you're a kiddie toucher. Don't bother trying to deny it!
mods, it's time to ban devincf and his various incarnations; joke or not, this is blatantly disrespectful (indeed, slanderous) to a valued and well-meaning contributor to the board -
So for the record: WhyFi is allowed to maliciously spread false gossip about me in a thread having nothing to do with the gossip he is childishly recounting, but when I make an obviously hyperbolic and sarcastic and in no way realistic jibe - which is meant as a comment on the nature of his baseless nastiness about me - I should be banned?
Why shouldn't WhyFi ALSO be banned for immediately taking things to personal attacks on me? Why is my obviously parodic comment a bannable offense? WhyFi is allowed to tell lies about me, but when I tell patently false and obvious lies intended for comedic effect about him, I get calls for banning and that whiny baby WhyFi sends me a tragic PM about his non-anonymous identity on this board, as if I'm hiding behind some sort of cryptic fake identity.
Here's what's funny - WHyFi sent me a PM with thinly veiled legal threats about my statement, going on about his job as a dingbat or whatever, and claiming that in some way my post would hurt his career. Which is hilarious in a thread where I mention that I have gotten freelance work through this board and then he goes on to impugn my abilities and work history as a professional. Pot, meet kettle - except that I was obviously joking and WhyFi was acting like the neighborhood orifice.
So in conclusion, I believe WhyFi should be banned for starting this thread on its current terrible derailment. Further, I am stating for the legal record that my statement was intended as parody, even though I don't need to and it would be funny to see WhyFi spend some dough on lawyers, although I doubt any would seriously take his case.
But again, I have no evidence that WhyFi is a kiddie toucher, only that he's a twit. -
Oh man, this sh*t is really getting to be a yawn. Maybe Devinc and his foes could start their own board? Can we call it 'Flamers' as a nudge to the best cancelled show on TV and just to go along with their theme of not-so-subtle offensive remarks? That would be great. Let's call it a day.
escap wrote: [quote=spinningpinwheel][quote=cythren][quote=Medusa]Wow. I'm surprised that no one grew up in the neighborhood. So far, we're all newbies.
Wait, you mean Brooklyn is like Maine? Where, if your family hasn't lived there for *generations*, you're not really "from there"?
What about those of us whose family lived here for generations (Brooklyn Heights & Coney Island from 1892 on), whose parents joined the white flight of the 70's and who ended up born & raised in the burbs (in this case, Stamford, CT)? Then who went to college in the city and has been in Prospect Heights for four years?
Does that make me 'from here', only kinda, or not at all?
No dice. You're from the burbs. [-X
Back to the point of this thread and my original post - I know I'm from the burbs. The thing is, it cracks me up that someone whose parents were born & raised in another country can say they're "more Brooklyn" than someone whose family goes back 3 generations in Brooklyn and who happens to have been born & raised 50 miles north.
When people ask me where I grew up I say Connecticut. When they ask where I'm from I say Brooklyn. Home is where the heart is, people. -
Also, I have only one incarnation and i find the insinuation that I maintain other identities to be offensive and slanderous, and hereby call a fatwa on ana.log.
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I see that you took the opportunity to retract your statement as I had suggested. Very well.
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Yes, you can call off your vicious internet lawyers! I am afraid of getting a STFU N00b order in the mail.
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devin and whyfi: what does your conversation have to do with the original topic?
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It all began when WhyFi slanderously called me a chronic masturbator, actually.
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Both of you. Please knock it off, now, OK? This is not cool.
Devincf, I'm really glad you got freelance work for free from my board. This is exactly the kind of amazing thing I expect to happen on Brooklynian.
However, it really saddens me that whenever you come around here, you seem to be primarily interested in thumbing your nose at people.
As I have no training in elementary education, I'm not qualified to judge the "who started it" debate. However, you came in here and basically snorted and said "typical!" How exactly do you expect people to respond to that?
You are really a talented writer and your Richard Dreyfuss interview was legendary. I'm not forcing you to log in and insult my friends here, many of whom I know in real life, and I don't really give a damn where they are from.
Let's start over at page 1, rule 1 (be nice) and maybe you can get even more benefit out of these boards, OK?
WhyFi, you are not off the hook. You've proven your skills as a master fanner of flames, now just let, it, go.
OK? Thanks. -
spinningpinwheel wrote: When people ask me where I grew up I say Connecticut. When they ask where I'm from I say Brooklyn. Home is where the heart is, people.
You can take the girl out of Brooklyn but ya can't take the Brooklyn out of the girl
My 3 stages of life so far have been
birth to 88 - Gowanus, Bklyn
88-03- Borough Park, Bklyn
03-'til death do us part' - Prospect Heights, Bklyn (next door to my mother in law and the home my husband was born in). -
erikka wrote:
No way! Eau Claire, WI is my hometown.
Mine:
Minneapolis/Brooklyn Park, MN
Brainerd, MN
Faribault, MN
Eau Claire, WI
Financial District NYC
Midwood/Marine Park, Brooklyn
Back to Minneapolis after college for a brief stint
Greenpoint
South Park Slope
Here's mine:
Eau Cliare, WI
Appleton, WI
Chicago, IL (various neighboods over several-year period)
Windsor Terrace/Kensington, Bklyn
Park Slope, Bklyn (specifically, Fifth Ave/Warren St., about 8-9 years ago, shortly before Fifth Ave exploded out of mild scuzziness/sketchiness to become what it is today)
West Village, NYC
Prospect Heights, Bklyn -
spinningpinwheel wrote:
Wait, you mean Brooklyn is like Maine? Where, if your family hasn't lived there for *generations*, you're not really "from there"?
[quote=escap][quote=spinningpinwheel][quote=cythren][quote=Medusa]Wow. I'm surprised that no one grew up in the neighborhood. So far, we're all newbies.
What about those of us whose family lived here for generations (Brooklyn Heights & Coney Island from 1892 on), whose parents joined the white flight of the 70's and who ended up born & raised in the burbs (in this case, Stamford, CT)? Then who went to college in the city and has been in Prospect Heights for four years?
Does that make me 'from here', only kinda, or not at all?
No dice. You're from the burbs. [-X
Back to the point of this thread and my original post - I know I'm from the burbs. The thing is, it cracks me up that someone whose parents were born & raised in another country can say they're "more Brooklyn" than someone whose family goes back 3 generations in Brooklyn and who happens to have been born & raised 50 miles north.
When people ask me where I grew up I say Connecticut. When they ask where I'm from I say Brooklyn. Home is where the heart is, people.
Whose parents were born & raised in another country?
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