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OMG What has Happended to this part of Flatbush Avenue? - Page 2 — Brooklynian

OMG What has Happended to this part of Flatbush Avenue?

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  • Several reasons may be in play.    ...boredom usually principal.

    Nothing nefarious about boredom.

  • I am writing out of compassion for the demise of my once beloved neighborhood, not boredom.
  • Poetic sense of rhythm, why thank you Laura Palmer. I try real hard to keep it real on Brooklynian. Nothing nefarious here. 

  • What has happened is what has always happened, with a dash of landlord greed due to the new arena. Also, the original poster's list is a mish-mash of recent and not-so-recent changes, so it seems apocalyptic when it's not quite so. 
    It's clear a lot of people who have commented have lived in the area ten years or less. There's nothing at all wrong with that, but for people who have been here longer, shops like The Cake Ambiance are relatively new (2009). 
    The Triangle Sports family was given an offer they couldn't refuse. They were tired and got out with a nice paycheck. They closed over two years ago, actually, not in the last few months. 
    I don't have facts, but I always thought the J Lo store was a temporary location to launch the brand in a high-profile space (across from the arena). And who laments the closing of cell phone stores and check cashing places? Interesting - the check cashing place has ridiculously low rent; it's going up thousands of percentage points according to a recent bit on a real estate blog. I realize that check cashing shops serve people who don't use banks, but that was a huge space for only a few windows. 
    Kaz An Nou is a shame (but recall Maha's amazing spot next store--her moving away many years ago left a hole in my heart). 
    King's Pharmacy is a blow to the area. Losing a well-stocked general store and pharmacy is never good. Losing a Chase isn't a big deal considering there's another branch only blocks away and the Duane Reade has a Chase ATM if all you need is a fee-free withdrawal. 

    I guess my rambling point is that the Flatbush strip from the arena up to Grand Army Plaza has always had a lot of churn, and there's nothing secret and awful going on. We just get weepy when our favorites leave or are forced out (City Sub <sob>). A lot of storefronts are still open and have been for 15, 20 years or more. Triangle Sports made it for 96 years in the same spot! Some we walk by without noticing because they're not interesting to us, not somewhere we'd shop. 
    Finally, when we lament the passing of small businesses, we have to keep it in perspective: the majority of small businesses close pretty quickly. It's really difficult and expensive to start and run a small business with a storefront location in Brooklyn. 
  • The question now is, will new small business replace the old.  And will currently successful small businesses renew their leases when they come up.  Or is this end of quirk on flatbush avenue. 

    I wonder, does flatbush ave ask higher rent than the top drags in williamburg? It shouldn't.  And small business still thrives in the heart of wburg. 
  • Donut Plant getting ready to open on Wednesday. Some good news for Flatbush Avenue. 

    http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20141201/prospect-heights/doughnut-plant-open-brooklyn-outpost-wednesday
  • after some recent visits to Flatbush, here are my thoughts:

    1) Byklyn: The spin-cycle place near all the Eladia's storefronts seems to have a large clientele and are working hard to keep it that way.

    2) The new French place on the same strip: I walked by in the late afternoon on Thanksgiving weekend and there were at least six people in there, seeming to enjoy themselves.

    3) Woodland: Has clearly changed management (if not ownership) and strategy. The menu has made a shift to what I would call Southern-inflected hotel restaurant fare...Unfortunately, hotel restaurant quality as well, with somewhat random but quite high price points. Service was friendly but unskilled and not particularly attentive. We went for a Sunday early dinner, and by 7:30 pm to our surprise they started preparing for it to turn into a comedy club 8, with a DJ, and nearly 100% African American clientele. We were speculating that the SugarCane folks may have decided to expand here instead of next door as the clientele seemed similar - if not SugarCane then some other place with an established clientele.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens to this place - we liked having another option for nicer family meals in the neighborhood but they seem to be going for something pretty different. But there's clearly a market for what they are doing --

    4) Flatbush/Bergen St. seems to be attracting NYC area mini-chain restaurants/cafes that do upscale-ish versions of accessible food/drink. That makes sense to me, given the various demographics which you probably need to satisfy in order to survive. Shake-Shack, Hungry Ghost, Gorilla, Doughnut Plant, Morgans, Franny's/Larder...We'll be sad to see Marco's go but it doesn't necessarily surprise me that it was not profitable enough in this location. I hope we can hang onto these places, and it would not surprise me to see that the persistent mix is cheap favorites, like Burrito Bar and cheap pizza, chinese and wings shops along with new shops trying to hit the sweet spot between something for arena-goers and something for the neighborhood(s).

    5) As for non-food businesses, it's hard for me to see what's actually going to stick here. Many of the commercial properties seem pretty run-down and pretty unattractive - and hard to see how anything but a pretty established business that can afford to renovate or one that is tolerant of raw space and can assure a pretty immediate following (spin, cross-fit, yoga) could make it work.
  • I am aware of first hand info that the spin/bike shop is only temporary as part of the pintchik plan to turn that block into a luxury condo with large commercial space. The other place next to Eladias was  to be Eladia Atalier studio for art and music classes for children.  I understand she was unable to promote,  or establish any clientele to open it, so she eventually subleased to the crossfit managers, hence the name HITBK by Eladia. I wonder if Eric Adams the borough president who is an investor at Woodland has anything to do with the new wave of African Americans at the restaurant. Funny how things turned out, the neighborhood was scared straight to have Woodland open because they feared the black crowds,  bottle service and the loud noise. Also, Elberta has a comedy Tuesdays and a large black crowd, wonder if they have the same new managers. 



  • Holy Cow, could the Kemistry people be involved in the new Woodland??????  Wouldnt that be a joke?????  Anyone?
  • Kemistry and Woodland are two separate groups of folks. But considering there is only like four degrees of separation for blacks in America, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they know each other.
  • Redberi was one of the best clothing stores on Flatbush Avenue and they are still alive and doing well, was not aware that they had an outlet on Prospect Place near Classon. I popped by and they continue to carry the best well made clothing from designers at discount prices. Also, tons of jewelry make great gift giving. Some vintage repurposed dresses by Sweet William. Prices may not be cheap but you get quality

     




     



     


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