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NYC begins a Municipal ID program

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  • So the one reason why I would have gotten this ID is quickly fading...



  • http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/comment/554889#Comment_554889

    So, they seem to want the membership benefits to be primarily used by people who would otherwise not go to museums: The low income, under priviledged folks we talk about above....

    Except those who are from that group in the area cannot use that to go to the Prospect Park Zoo down the street. I wonder why that zoo didn't buy into that yet.
  • southeast
    edited October 2014
    @mugofmead - I didn't even notice the Bronx zoo you mentioned in the other thread as I was only looking out for Brooklyn.  But when I searched the document for "zoo," I noted that the Wildlife Conservation Society includes "Free general admission for one adult to the Bronx Zoo, New York Aquarium, Central Park Zoo, Prospect Park Zoo and Queens Zoo."  So we are good. :)

  • A few of the places only allow free admission for one person.

    That is different than an actual membership, which often allows an entire household entrance.
  • southeast
    edited October 2014
    @whynot_31 - Well, you know what this means - a family outing to get the ID. :)
  • I had thought this would mean we wouldn't need to get another family membership for the zoo.  Before we had received the delux one as a gift.  But if all my son's babysitters and family members gets an ID I wouldn't need to also get the caregiver delux membership, and instead have the smaller, parents and child only membership.  

    Of course this isn't going to last for too long, it's completely promotional.  But it's a great chance to see just how often my family goes to these places.  It will answer the question if it's really worth joining a couple places, specifically the children's museum for us.  It's a free, one year opportunity to check out some culture.  I can't see any good reasoning for scoffing that.

    I'm curious how it changes donation-admittance places like the Natural History museum.  Will membership also mean free entrance to the planetarium and special exhibits? 
  • I wonder how they have estimated the utilization of the benefits they are offering
  • The DMV's non-driver ID isn't free. The regular fee (for people who aren't seniors or receiving SSI) is $10 or $14 and expires in 4 or 8 years. So I never imagined this would be free either. 

    Next year everyone has the opportunity to get a free card that will give them a free one-year membership to 33 different institutions across all five boroughs -- as a bonus to help those people who actually need the card (because anyone who is getting the ID purely for the memberships clearly doesn't need it). I don't see what all the complaining about what places might not be on the list or how long the free memberships will last is about. 
  • @nothinlikeabklyngirl - you really have to read the recent comments above together with the following discussion: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/44845/memberships-to-crown-heights-attractions
  • Thanks, @southeast for the clarification. I read the other discussion and I get that some people won't be able to take advantage of all the freebies because of existing/past memberships, and I know that you were looking specifically for a CH-based multi membership. I just wanted to remind everyone that the point of this ID is to help a population in need: 

    "the cards are particularly valuable for the most vulnerable community members -- undocumented immigrants, the homeless, foster youth, the elderly and others who may have difficulty obtaining and retaining other government-issued ID." (http://populardemocracy.org/campaign/expanding-municipal-id-cards)

    For folks like you and me, who have the luxury of not having to worry about ID, the rest is gravy.
  • I like gravy.
  • In addition to tasting good, the gravy might be designed to address some of @tateinbk 's concerns:
    One of the concerns advocates have for this program is that they will be only used by marginalized people and therefore will be a target when in use.  This will only work to include these people in our society if a broad selection of people also get and use them.   For this reason I will be getting one.

  • Part of an overall strategy by DeBlasio to make the city a sanctuary for immigrants, whether they are legal or not:

    http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/520-14/mayor-bill-de-blasio-signs-law-bills-dramatically-reduce-new-york-city-s-cooperation-with#/0
  • whynot_31
    edited December 2014
    Pre-launch press:

    "The ID will be available to all New York City residents 14 years and above regardless of immigration status or homelessness. It will be free for the first year and valid for five years after that. The cost for successive years has not yet been determined, said city officials."


  • southeast
    edited January 2015
    Running late, aren't we...  Still no info on enrollment centers.  I like the idea that it will serve as a library card as well.
  • The email I got said sites are open now. 
    Here's where you can go in Brooklyn to apply for your IDNYC: 

    Brooklyn Business Center - DOF
    210 Joralemon Street, 1st Floor
    Brooklyn, NY 11201
    (at Joralemon St and Court St)
    Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri: 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. 

    Brooklyn Public Library Central Branch - BPL
    10 Grand Army Plaza
    Brooklyn, NY 11238
    (at Eastern Parkway and Flatbush Ave)
    Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu: 9:00 a.m. - 9:00 p.m.
    Fri, Sat: 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
    Sun: 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. 

    Sunset Park Recreation Center - DPR
    7th Avenue at 43rd Street
    Brooklyn, NY 11232
    Opening Spring 2015
    Hours To Be Announced 
  • Very exciting. I am thrilled about it functioning as an all-access Library Card. This is just like what many European countries have, to encourage their locals to go to the Louvre or the Picasso Museum at a great discount. 

    AND there is a 5% discount at Food Bazaar!
  • Rumor has it the line at the Brooklyn Public Library is really really long and there are only two clerks to handle it.  But I'm Really Excited!  
    :)
  • Rumor has it the line at the Brooklyn Public Library is really really long and there are only two clerks to handle it.  But I'm Really Excited!  
    :)
    @tateinbk - So it started today?  For some reason, I got the impression from the NYT article that they will start next Monday.
  • It started today.  It sounds like the wait is at least 1.5 hrs.
  • Here is an article written about the program from a policy wonk view: http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/government/5509-84m-muni-id-program-budget-includes-18m-for-advertising

    The goals seem attainable to me.
  • Apparently all the lines are long, so long that the city is no longer taking walk-ins. Instead people need to make an appointment at http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page.

  • Apparently all the lines are long, so long that the city is no longer taking walk-ins. Instead people need to make an appointment at http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page.

    When I try to schedule an appointment it only lets me select the Department of Finance in the Bronx.  With no weekend availability.  Looks like I won't be getting one of these for a long time.
  • Heh, nothing is coming up for me.  Just a blank page when I click "Make an Appointment"
  • We may need to take into account that the whole program was only allocated $8.4M, and that $1.8M of that is for advertising.

    NYC does not roll out its ID with same efficiency as AMEX rolls out a new card for many reasons....

    http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/government/5509-84m-muni-id-program-budget-includes-18m-for-advertising
  • Plus, they gave the job to HRA because they have experience maintaining people's privacy and such.  In my experience HRA specializes in lines and making simple things way harder than they should be.  Plus, throw in some workers that make the DMV employees look peppy and it's all a winning combination.  

    Are places like Single Stop able to process/enter requests like they can with the various services?  That would help the situation along.  Because at this rate, all that advertising may be a waste if no one can get a card in any sort of time.  Maybe they need volunteers to go around and make sure everyone's forms are filled out before getting to the front of the line?
  • whynot_31
    edited January 2015
    I don't think the nonprofits that operate Single Stops have received any funding, authority or training on the municipal ID yet.

    The advertising and free press may result in lines that overwhelm the clerks, but I suspect that this is a "good problem to have".

    Some press about lines allows proponents of this program to paint the undocumented (illegal, etc) as wanting to join the fold.

    They go from being thought of as "disorganized" or "criminals"

    - toward -

    "wanting to comply" or "doing what they can to get new lives"
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