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DID YOU LIVE ON 12 ST TWEEN 4-5 AVE IN THE 50'S 60'S — Brooklynian

DID YOU LIVE ON 12 ST TWEEN 4-5 AVE IN THE 50'S 60'S

graybeard49
edited November -1 in Park Slope

Subject: Did you live on 12st in the 50 & 60's

Hi

It's me Jim Cantwell again.

With the help a a great group of people(the fine folks from 20-21 St) I tracked down info about my friend Billy Johnsen. I had the name spelled wrong-some friend eh!

Is anyone out there who lived on 12 st between 4-5 Ave and in the surrounding area in the 50-60's.

Hopefully someone will spot this and we can get to find out about all the GREAT PEOPLE I grew up with.

Hope to hear from someone.

Jim
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  • Hello Jim,
    Close but no cigar as the old saying goes. I lived on 12th between 5th and 6th Aves from the 30"s through the 50's. Was in the service '57 & '58 Got married in 1960 and moved to NJ. Bought a house in 1963 & Raised my family there and retired in Bergenfield NJ and move to Florida in 1997. Th only families I remember between 4th & 5th aves were the Banks, Felthams and some I just said Hi to as I attended the 12th St Reformed Church at 251 12th St. My wife thinks the Funks lived between 4th & 5th but not sure. Went to PS124's as you did but then went to PS 40's (long gone) before attending MANUAL TRAINING not John Jay! I am afraid we would have few if any aquaintences in common.Old Goat
  • Hi Warren:

    WOW 12st Reformed Church I lived right across from it -248 12 st.
    We use to have to climb down the drain pipe to get out our spauldeens
    from the ditch.

    Did you get married there? I do remember a wedding or two being held there.

    My aunt Dottie Nolan lived at 248 with her daughters Joan & Mary in the 40's

    I knew the Howards & Dawsons from 5-6 on 12st. Were they around when you lived there?

    I went to Holy Family grammar school which was right next to PS 124
    and also played in the school yard all the time.

    If I come across anyone from the neighborhood in my search I'll let you know.

    I appreciate your getting back to me and if you want to talk any time leave a message on this site or e-mail me at [email protected]

    From a Getting Old Goat to Old Goat enjoy, be happy & stay healthy

    Jim
  • Yes, we were married in 12th St Reformed Church in 1960. My two Brothers and my sister were also married there. Did not recognize any of the names you listed. Between 5th & 6th aves we had Hickey, Carson, Lombardi, Flynn, Webster, Jaworski, Highland, Martin, Murphy, Draddy, Placido, Petito, Cash, Hawkaow, Fiorello, Crowley and many more.

    12th St Reformed is no longer in the building. It is now a different denomination. When the Church was in its heyday we used to spend a great deal of time there. Basketball (3 teams) at least twice a week, Young Peoples Organization, two Choirs, Orchestra, annual stage show, Bunco & Card parties, fairs etc:

    Remember I am quite a bit older then you and people move, die etc:.
  • There weren't too many weddings there as I remember, so there was a good chance I saw yours and your siblings. Anything that was happening there I noticed since I lived right across the street.

    I notice you remember many of the people who lived on your block. Same with me. I can still rattle off plenty of names. We never seem to forget the Good Old Days do we.

    If I come across any one who remembers you I'll give a shout. You know where I am if you want to say hello.

    You take care Warren Old Goat -you sure sound young-at-heart.

    Jim
  • Subject: DID YOU LIVE ON 12ST TWEEN 4-5 AVE IN THE 50'S & 60'S

    Hi

    It's me Jim Cantwell again.

    Is anyone out there who lived on 12 st between 4-5 Ave and in the surrounding area in the 50-60's.

    Hopefully someone will spot this and we can get to find out about all the GREAT PEOPLE I grew up with.

    Hope to hear from someone.

    Jim
  • Subject: DID YOU LIVE ON 12 ST TWEEN 4-5 AVE IN THE 50'S & 60'S

    Hi

    It's me Jim Cantwell again. Still looking for you oldies but goodies.

    Is anyone out there who lived on 12 st between 4-5 Ave and in the surrounding area in the 50-60's.

    Maybe friends or relatives.

    Hopefully someone will spot this and we can get to find out about all the GREAT PEOPLE I grew up with.

    Hope to hear from someone.

    Jim
  • Jim,

    Try asking that question here That's our Brooklyn Back When board which is where a lot of folks go to meet up with their friends from back in the day.
  • Hi Jim,

    Glad to see that you have meshed in so well with the "Brooklyn Back When" crowd. I am afraid that you have come as close to our old hood as you are going to on these blogs. I have been trying for a long time and it is almost like old timers between 9-15th st have dissapeared from the earth or they do not check blogs. For myself I stopped writing in the "Brooklyn Back When" blog when they changed from an interest in the "Old Days" to a chat forum between old friends and neighbors. That is their perrogative and I am not critizing them for it. I just did not fit in because of geographical as well as age differences. Most of them are from Prospect ave to Greenwood Cemetary and I did not spend much time in that area unless it was walking to Sunset pool or when I delivered meat for the Palace Meat Market on 5th Ave accross from Germains. Good luck on your persuit of our old street! Old Goat 8) :D
  • THANKS WARREN

    THEY ARE A GOOD GROUP AND IN MY
    AGE RANGE. WE KNOW SOME MUTUAL FRIENDS ALSO
    I ACTUALLY MET SOME OF THEM LAST
    FRIDAY AT A CONCERT.

    YEAH IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE FROM
    OUR HOOD IS GONE AND FORGOTTEN
    BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.

    GOTTA KEEP SEARCHING.

    YOU TAKE CARE AND I'M HERE
    IF YOU NEED ME
  • I know it's years later from the May 2009 quote I'm reading but I too lived on 13 st between 4th and 5th ave. I remember Raymond Banks and Billy Johnson from 12 street and a guy named Mulvey. I went to Holy Family in the 50's and attended John Jay High and played ball in 124 playground all the time with Jumbo Sweeney, Mickey Haas, Mickey D. and others. Jim Kavanagh
  • Johnnysdaughter
    edited February 2015
    My Dad grew up on 10th Street between 3rd and 4th Avenue.  He went to P.S. 40 (I have 2 pictures, if you're still around, Old Goat in Fl @older80goat
    older80goat
    )  He knew a family by the name of Mulvey also, on 10th Street.  He knew the Pascone's on 11th Street, the Alberghina's, Charlie Kleist, etc. I have a picture of a friend of his that I only know as "Johnny Boy".  I don't know his last name.   I can name other names if any of you are still there and see this. 
  • Hi Jonnysdaughter, There were also Mulveys on 12th Street. Do not know if it is the same family. I have the graduation program from PS 40's June 23 1947. Joseph Pascone was in my class. I have the names of the entire graduating class on the program. I took a girl named Efthalia Economos to our High School prom.
    Manual Training H.S. later re-named John Jay.
  • Johnnysdaughter
    edited February 2015
    Hi Older80goat,

    The Mulvey's from 10th street were John and Mary.  I don't think they ever had children because my father told me that at one time, they asked if they could adopt him.  My dad was abandoned as a baby.  After checking a newspaper article I have on a fire that swept through a few houses on 10th Street, I see that the Mulvey's house WAS one that got hit by the fire.  Maybe it was them on 12th street after all??  My Dad was actually a pal of Louis Pascone's younger brother, Eddie and I have a picture of them and 3 other pals, in one of those arcade photos from Coney Island.  
    Are you the same "old goat" that was originally called "old goat in fl" on this or another site who once asked for pictures of PS 40?  I tried so hard to get in contact but I guess by the time I found your post, you closed that account, if it was you.  I have 2 pictures of PS 40 if you want them.  My email address is [email protected].  I can explain more of my Dad's story there and mention some more names from 10th street and a name or two from 2 other blocks.
    I know that the Pascone family had several addresses in the area.  Aunts and Uncles and their children.  And they had a barber shop on 3rd Avenue for the longest time.  I'm sorry to say that Louis Pascone passed away just last year.  I had only dropped in on him and his brother, still living on 11th street, just a few months before that and shared a few memories of my dad and I was invited to come back again for dinner.  I guess it wasn't to be.  Anyway, thanks for getting in touch.  Write my email address if you want me to send those pictures or, I can see if there's a way to attach them on here if you like.
    Take care for now, Linda
  • Here's a picture of P.S. 40 on 16th Street in Park Slope.  I have another if you're interested, Old Goat



    PS40 Brooklyn NY
  • Hi Johnny's Daughter. Thanks for the picture. Many people who live in that area do not even remember that there was a PS40. The Mulvey's on 12th ST would have lived in 310, an apartment house and it would have been in the late 30's or early 40's. I do not remember their last names. I was too young! Yes I am the "Old Goat" that was and still is on Brooklyn Back When. Joseph Pascone was in my class in 40's but I do not know anything about his family. At one time on "Brooklyn Back When", I believe I put all the names of my graduation class from 40's on the Blog. I lived on 12th Street from 1933 (when I was born) to 1960 when I married and moved to NJ. Take out 2 years that I was in the Army, 57, 58.
  • Sorry, in regards to the Mulveys that should have said "first names"
  • Sounds to me like you and my father grew up in the neighborhood around the same time. My Dad was born in 1928 and abandoned at the age of 2, at the home of a wonderful Norwegian woman on 10th Street. She decided to keep him and so that's where he grew up. It was her home but she also had boarders. He lived there from about the age of 2 (1930) till he joined the Army in 1946, I believe. There had been a fire while he was in the Army and he stayed with a friend on 12th Street for awhile, after he got back. He married my mother in '51 and we didn't live too far from there.

    I'm not on my own computer right now but when I get home later tonight, I'll post another picture of P.S. 40. I'll PM you and let you know what types of other things I have, if you're interested.

    Linda
  • Wait just a sec there...........I found the other picture on my daughter's computer (I'm at her place now)

    Copy of PS 40 Brooklyn 1908
    While I'm at it, a pic of St. Thomas Acquinas in the 1930s and one from the present. I hope that's allowed on this site.

    St. Thomas Aquinas, 1930s 2
    St. Thomas Aquinas today
  • Hi everyone, I've been reading along for many months on brooklynian and noticed this site. My name is Jim Kavanagh and lived across from Holy family Church on 13th street. I had 5 siblings, 3 older sisters Carol, Maryanne and Eileen and 2 brothers, Neddyboy and Pattyjon. We all went to HF school on 14th street and played ball in the ps124 school yard. I went to John Jay High then the Navy. I now live in South Carolina. Love reading all your mail and talk about the old neighborhood. Jim
  • Hi Jim,
    When did you live on 13th Street?
  • I'm 66 now. I lived there in the 50's and 60's. Left to join the Navy in 65. I do remember Billy Johnson who lived on 12th street between 4th and 5th. Potsey whose family owned a hardware store on 5th and 7th street. Joan Benoit from 15th street. Others on 13th street were Danny Sullivan, Tom (jumbo) Sweeney, James (chubby) Ford, Kathleen Donahue, the Moore sisters, Isabelle Stewart, The Dwyer brothers ( a bit older), a guy we called Hot Rod, Raymond Banks, Michael Weadok, Richie and Larry Quelch and Brian Haynes who lived on 13th between 5th and 6th, Kevin McPartland who lived on 5th and 11th street, just to mention a few. We would always hang out on the corner of 5th and 13th street.
    And you?
  • Hi Jim & Linda

    Thinking about Billy Johnsen( that is the correct spelling and why
    I couldn't originally find him on the virtual Vietnam Wall on the net)
     
    Him, Cecil Miller and Peter Aulette all either lived on my block or within a block of
    where I lived and were killed in Nam. They were all 20 yrs old.
    Here is their listing on the virtual wall:
    http://www.virtualwall.org/dj/JohnsenWA01a.htm
    http://www.virtualwall.org/da/AulettiPP01a.htm
    http://www.virtualwall.org/dm/MillerCV01a.htm

    How lucky was I that I joined the Army in Feb '68 and got sent to KOREA
    instead of Nam. I think of them often.
  • Hi again, both Jims!

    Jim67, I'm afraid it wasn't me that lived in Park Slope.  It was my Dad who was raised on 10th Street between 3rd and 4th Avenue.  He would've been gone just around the time you were hanging out on the corners.  lol  But I think you have a connection with graybeard49 Jim.  You both know Billy Johnsen. 
    Graybeard49 Jim.  I'm glad you finally found a trace of your pal.  It must be awful to feel that "it could've been me" feeling, and made worse when you know the boys.  Such a sad waste of young lives and of all the grieving families.  THREE on your block alone.  It's touching to know that a pal still thinks of them after all these years.

    Linda
  • Yes I knew with Jim's younger brother Pat.

    I am still in touch with a few guys I grew up with
    on 12th Street.

    As Jim said the neighborhood has changed drastically
    but I think we lived there in the best of times.


  • Thought you might enjoy these.  Does "copyright" mean I can't share them, even for free?  First one belongs to the Bklyn library. 
    1950s Prospect Expressway
    Next one is the property of BrooklynPix


    fourth-avenue-southwest-to-the-new-prospect-expressway-december-1959-7
  • Across from Greenwood Cemetery.....

    McGovern greenhouse
  • One for Warren/ OldGoat,
    Don't remember where I found this one but it's lunch time at PS 40.  The year is unknown.

    lunch at PS 40, unknown year
  • Hi Linda, GB49, OG

    Thank you so much for sending the virtual wall sites. I truly appreciate it. I remember Peter. I grew up with his older brother Richie Aulette. I also knew Ricky Reilly who lived on 4th avenue and 11th street and his family owned the Reilly Hardware Store on 5th avenue and 11th street. I remember the candy store on the corner of 12th street and 4th avenue across from the gas station. I worked at Romeo's candy store on the corner of 4th avenue and 14th street. So many great memories from the old neighborhood. We also played hard ball at the school yard on 4th avenue and 4th street. All the kids were athletic in those days. I also remember being in class at HF school when the plane flew over our school very low and then crashed just past Methodist Hospital in the late 50's if I remember correctly. Let's keep in touch as I don't have much, if at all, contact with anyone form the old neighborhood. Jim
  • Hello Everyone,
    I thought you might enjoy the book Brownstone Dreams by Kevin McPartland. It's about growing up in Park Slope in the 1960s. I believe someone mentioned his name. Wouldn't it be great if it was your friend's story? It's sold on Amazon. Enjoy!
  • Hi Linda, GB49, OG

    Thank you so much for sending the virtual wall sites. I truly appreciate it. I remember Peter. I grew up with his older brother Richie Aulette. I also knew Ricky Reilly who lived on 4th avenue and 11th street and his family owned the Reilly Hardware Store on 5th avenue and 11th street. I remember the candy store on the corner of 12th street and 4th avenue across from the gas station. I worked at Romeo's candy store on the corner of 4th avenue and 14th street. So many great memories from the old neighborhood. We also played hard ball at the school yard on 4th avenue and 4th street. All the kids were athletic in those days. I also remember being in class at HF school when the plane flew over our school very low and then crashed just past Methodist Hospital in the late 50's if I remember correctly. Let's keep in touch as I don't have much, if at all, contact with anyone form the old neighborhood. Jim
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