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Classic bodega on the SW corner of EP and Franklin will soon be replaced by a Dunkin Donuts — Brooklynian

Classic bodega on the SW corner of EP and Franklin will soon be replaced by a Dunkin Donuts

imageOn a related thread:  http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-new-coffee-shop#Item_32

@mcpoet @terekete and @mike dunlap reported that the iconic bodega located on the SW corner of EP and Franklin will soon be replaced by a Dunkin Donuts. 

806 Franklin Avenue, Crown Heights

Here's the strip of stores we are talking about:

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The owners of the retro bodega are believed to be moving to left half of Sal's restaurant
   

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  • That's the SW corner, right?

    So - Starbucks on one corner, Dunkin Donuts on another. Where will this end?
  • Question 1:  Yes, I am discussing the SW corner.  

    Question 2:   It will never end.    In my view, the city has always been changing.
  • Huh, there's a DD on Nostrand and EP. And then another opening on Montgomery and Bedford.
  • I always think of the Dunkin Donuts on Nostrand being like one would be in Paris, with cafe seating on the broad boulevard.
  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    There might be some outdoor seating with the Franklin Ave version.

    When one looks at the first photo above, they could put a few seats in the area that is presently behind the black fence.  


  • Huh, there's a DD on Nostrand and EP. And then another opening on Montgomery and Bedford.
    There's also a Dunkin Donuts on Empire and Washington. How many DDs does an area need?

    On the other hand, at least there will be a more budget-conscious alternative to Starbucks across the street.
  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    Sorry to be picky, but this isn't a question of "need". This is a question of how many the area will support.

    As a result of having huge economies of scale, DD can operate with much larger margins than the local coffee places.

    I do wonder how this development will affect the business strategies of the presently-in-construction coffee shop at Franklin and Union: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-new-coffee-shop/p1

    ...as well as the existing Pulp and Bean 2 about a block south.
  • That's the SW corner, right?

    So - Starbucks on one corner, Dunkin Donuts on another. Where will this end?




    It will end with your apartment being turned into a Dunkin Donuts, where you will live with a dozen baristas. ;-)

    As much as this annoys me and gives me another reason to patronize the Pulp and Bean, I have to admit that if it looks like the Dunkin on the corner of Nostrand and Eastern Parkway I'd be a bit more amenable to it.  That little outdoor café area always looked nice to me.....not nice to the point where I'd go to Dunkin Donuts, but nice to look at as I walk/drive past it.

  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    If we sort the Dunkin Donuts into downmarket and upmarket locations, the area lost a down market one when the gas station at the SW corner of EP and Bedford closed: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/38184/the-gulf-stationdunkin-donuts-at-ep-and-bedford-1550-bedford&nbsp#Item_66
  • I do wonder how this development will affect the business strategies of the presently-in-construction coffee shop at Franklin and Union: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-new-coffee-shop/p1

    ...as well as the existing Pulp and Bean 2 about a block south.
    Pulp and Bean needs to get the word out about those waffles. Since I'm over on Kingston, I'd never been. But after seeing the ridiculous lines for the cherry blossom festival at BBG, and after finding a seat at Butter & Scotch only to be told they'd sold out of brunch, the Mr. and I ended up there and had the best piping-hot, made-to-order waffles.    
  • The deli on the SE corner of Franklin and EP is crazy packed in the morning with high schoolers getting breakfast and so is Sal's, so I'm sure the DD will absorb a number of those.

    The only thing that makes me happy about these kind of businesses opening is they serve the diversity of the area. Starbucks always has a mix of Carribean, Jewish and newbie folks and a think DD will be similar. The milk bar place will naturally attract a certain type and intimidate others.

    Maybe Tony will be encouraged to speed up the grocery store plan with P&B increasingly facing competition as a stand alone coffee shop.
  • If we sort the Dunkin Donuts into downmarket and upmarket locations, the area lost a down market one when the gas station at the SW corner of EP and Bedford closed: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/38184/the-gulf-stationdunkin-donuts-at-ep-and-bedford-1550-bedford #Item_66
    On Sunday mornings I used to walk to that gas station to get a coffee since it was the only non-bodega option in the area.  ahhhh memories.
  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    @xlizellix
    My dog and I would often use that gas station as the turn around point for our walks.    We'd buy a Diet Coke and hot dog combo for $1.99.    We'd split the hot dog, and I'd drink all of the soda.

    Here is my dog mourning the past by looking longingly at the hotdog.

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    Those days are gone.
  • Vlack3Bos
    edited May 2015
    I moved out of Crown Heights last year, but when i first moved there in 2005, this was my bodega.  i remember requesting they start stocking Brooklyn Lager for me (their first craft beer selection. ...maybe that makes me part of the problem, ha.)  Even though i went there all the time, it was one of the worst bodegas i've been too.  always smelled like a mix of rat poison and something rotten.  One night i bought a seemingly harmless box of Kraft mac and cheese and when i went to empty the contents into the boiling water it was full of maggots.  Hard for me to get too nostalgic about this place, although there were one or two friendly workers there.  There was already a D and D a block down at Bedford for years (until recently), so i don't feel like this is a legitimate sign of gentrification.  And to be honest with you, this "retro" bodega calls back to a time when Crown Heights was a pretty undesirable place to live (aside from being cheap back then if you can believe it).  If you want to complain about too many coffee shops, imagine the intersection of EP and Franklin, where every coffee shop you see there now, was a fried chicken place where emaciated chicken wings were passed through bullet proof windows to crowds of resentful angry customers.  Not sure what i'm getting at here, just adding some perspective.  I'm already gone, as are nearly all my friends who lived in the hood with me in those days.  I guess i feel like this bodega moving two doors down is the least of the signs of the "bad" kind of gentrification that pushes out long standing residents.  there's much more horrendous things going on around Crown Heights behind the scenes.
  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    We are now down to seven (7) Crown Fried Chicken locations and three (3) Kennedy Fried chicken locations. We use to have far more.

    One used to be where Butter and Scotch is now.

    http://www.nychealthratings.com/nycrestapp/browse/3/Crown Heights
  • Returning to the classic bodega on the SE corner of EP and Franklin, several longtime residents have told me that the storefront used to be a Carvel in the 1970s.

    They date the bright yellow signage as late 1970s - early 1980s.
  • Shame about the store front it really is/was unique.
  • Bright yellow tin storefronts on bodegas used to be pretty common.

    If I see a nice piece of it in the demolition dumpster, I'll jump in and grab it.

    ...maybe Ms Whynot will allow me to hang it on the wall.
  • The new deli is open. This aspect of the change is at least a positive in that the new version is much cleaner and less cluttered (for now).

    I would obviously much prefer something local over a Dunkin' Donuts, but if DD maintains a nice outdoor area (and they could do much better than with the Nostrand spot), it will at least be an upgrade over the current spot (except for the loss of the cool overhead sign). Currently the outdoor space where a patio will likely be is a mini-landfill of trash and discarded commercial equipment.
  • They might be able to extend the fenced area to include the sidewalk behind the pedestrian.

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  • I'll never forget being approached a few weeks ago in Park Slope by some obviously not-locals who asked me where the Subway was.  I mistook them to mean subway.  Eventually I realized they meant Subway, and I advised them (erroneously) that Subways had been banned from Park Slope. Boy, were they unhappy.    Shows to go ya', some folks actually like DDs.

  • Apparently DD's is a big thing in Boston (or was, as per my friend who lived there a few years ago). Go figure.
  • The Slurpee-type drinks carried by Dunkin Donuts give them a large following during the hot summer months.


  • Dunkin's Coolatas are much more Slushie-like than Slurpee-like, which is a good thing, considering how hard it is to find an actual Slush Puppie machine these days. Anyone who can tell me of one closer than the pizza place at Caesar's Bay will have my undying affection.
  • Thats sad!
  • whynot_31
    edited May 2015
    Ms. Whynot said I could keep this small piece.

    If you look closely at the photo in the first post, you can see that it spent about 40 years right above the entrance.
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  • Banner announcing the future now present:

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