New Construction at 115 Erasmus Street
Ever since news broke of various new developments coming around the Church Ave stop on the 2/5 trains, I've had my eye out for construction site signage. Finally noticed one for 115 Erasmus, so here are some pictures of what's to come. (Sorry these aren't so great. When I took them, there was a fight going on behind me in the street, complete with police and a decent size crowd.)
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If folks here are interested, I'd be up for posting updates once they get nicely along.
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Yes, @psyker390, this I'd want to see.I wonder whether the building at 2274 Church Avenue will be demolished and that lot developed. City records state it's been landmarked, but the structure is literally falling apart now.
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whoa! yes i am interested. i ride my bike down erasmus frequently to get to my bf's house and i've never seen any sign of development yet. lets hope for NOT a fedder's, eh? it's a little hard to tell from that elevation drawing and i'm not good at deciphering permits....and speaking of Erasmus in general.. has anyone checked out photos on Erasmus st on oldnyc.org? it's pretty remarkable. that whole area was sort of the center of town ages ago, albeit a shabby wood-framed looking one for a while. i think this one might even be the site of this new building (NE corner, with holy cross church on the left to the north west.) http://www.oldnyc.org/#704148f-ait makes me wonder how many of the little shabby looking vinyl sided houses on erasmus are actually 120+ years old!
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@mugofmead111, I really hope someone does something with 2274 Church Ave soon. Personally, I'd love to see it get rehabilitated and used for something else (housing, creative space -- I'm not that picky). Regarding that Brownstoner article, they're getting ready to knock down the structure at 135 Erasmus -- I saw some folks (including who I assumed is the developer or at least a proxy) on site the other day.
@suppleknuckles, I hope its not a fedder too, but really anything would be better than what it is at the moment. And I did see those pics of Erasmus -- I freaking loved them! I live further down on Erasmus and have always wondered what was around way back in the day. Was great to finally get some answers.
I'm really glad you guys/gals are actually interested in this. Hopefully this helps to strengthen the Flatbush conversation around these parts.
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I love Erasmus st. despite the storage facility and the occasional weird ugly building. there are some cute houses there, and the whole area with its tiny blocks is super appealing (lott st, veronica place, etc). I can see the steeple of Holy Cross church from my apartment and it's a nice little reminder of the village-y vibe that's there.
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I just bought a place in the neighborhood and I am struggling with the late night parties until sunlight. I wonder how long this will continue
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Winter?
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@Tjbk Come to the police precinct meetings on the third Thursday - June 18 - they will give you some useful/some not useful info, but they will also give you some extra phone numbers you can call instead of 311 to have police respond faster.http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/precincts/precinct_067.shtml - the site says 8PM, but they really start about 7:30
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@whynot_31 the partying is reduced a bit during the fall and winter months but it still is a nuisance. Calling 311 has only worked once in over 2 years.@FBCN Thanks for the recommendation, I started reading up on the Community Affairs information and planned on attending the meeting on 6/18 but I will be away for work during that time. It seems I will have to endure until the meetings reconvene in September.Thanks for the constructive feedback.On a brighter note, thanks to @psyker390 for sharing the photos and info on the erasmus development.
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I just bought a place in the neighborhood and I am struggling with the late night parties until sunlight. I wonder how long this will continue
oh man-- i feel you. this weekend was especially bad for some reason. from my bf's backyard we could hear two loud parties with conflicting soundtracks, power tools for what looked like an apartment renovation in a nearby apt building (at 10pm!!), and countless fire engine sirens basically all night. it quieted down a little after midnight but it still wasn't quiet. I think people get a little stir crazy after a long period of shitty weather, or long periods of cold, and go all out. Last summer was for the most part chill after 11, midnight. sometimes people get the crazy dance party out of their system and go back to regular BBQ music. I haven't noticed much noise at all in the winter, though. do you live next to a large apartment building?? -
Winter is quiet in part because the partyiers and the non-partyiers often have their windows shut.
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Erasmus is a curious little street. Lots of little frame houses, now all covered with siding. I think it must have been simpler housing for some of the working class families of the neighborhood. Somehow it escaped the building boom of the 1900s-20s, where rows of larger brick houses were erected throughout the neighborhood. These frame houses are probably older, 1890s or so.I too recently bought here. Yup, it can be loud. But people are nice, prices are better than elsewhere, and the buildings are beautiful. I have a feeling it is going to quiet down over the next few years.Anybody know if the Erasmus High Pool has public swim hours?
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Winter is generally quiet and relaxing around neighborhood. I presume the partiers don't like the cold and generally stay in. @suppleknuckles I live next to a small house where my neighbor host backyard parties, baby showers, bar mitzvah, mas camps, room warmings and whatever they can think of.My neighbors up the street and a couple doors down are very nice and engaging. I presume things might quiet down soon, but the current state of all night partying is a clear and present danger in our community. These gatherings may lead to fights, stabbings or shootings when arguments between revelers escalate.
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Erasmus is a curious little street. Lots of little frame houses, now all covered with siding. I think it must have been simpler housing for some of the working class families of the neighborhood. Somehow it escaped the building boom of the 1900s-20s, where rows of larger brick houses were erected throughout the neighborhood. These frame houses are probably older, 1890s or so.
yes, i've been thinking about how old those houses are too. On Erasmus and Snyder. I feel pretty certain that 4 houses on Snyder close to Nostrand that appear on the edge of this map from 1873: http://www.brooklynhistory.org/exhibitions/lefferts/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ba_1873a.Fl_.jpg are actually, in fact, still there! (The street used to be called Grant). They have the same footprints from an aerial view and every old/insurance tax map i've looked at (which start at 1896). however when i walked by recently i noticed they're mostly condemned or otherwise boarded up/abandoned, and have been for years according to GSV.oh the stories these little houses could tell.
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Good detective work! I would speculate that these housed "support staff" in the old days of Flatbush Dutch families with huge mansions. The mansions are gone, but the staff houses remain!Speaking of old houses, how about this one?Which brings me to my next question: The oldest buildings in Flatbush are well documented, like the Dutch Church, PS 1, Flatbush Town Hall, etc. But what are the oldest remaining houses? Besides the Pieter Claesen-Wyckoff House. Surely there are some like these Erasmus houses, which are not historically significant yet are still survivors.OK on another note, since we are discussing Erasmus, does anyone know if the pool at Erasmus High has public hours? What about the one in the Thomas Murphy Boys Club?
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I can't talk for Erasmus' pool (though, I will say that after 24 years, I've never heard of it being open to the public -- I could certainly be wrong), but I used to go to the Boys Club you're asking about and I'm fairly sure that is only open to the members. I still got friends who work at said Club, so I'll double check that for ya.
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Alright, got confirmation -- the Boys Club pool is only open to members.
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As far as I can tell, Erasmus pool has swim classes for kids.But I can't figure out if they have anything for adults.The Flatbush Y, unlike the Bed Stuy or Park Slope Y, doesn't have a pool.
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man, i've always wondered about that Tilden ave house. i wonder if i could suggest it as a subject for Suzanne Spellen/Montrose morris
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Word is (from Facebook PLG group) Flatbush District School 1 aka PS 90 aka 2274 Church ave will be demolished.The city (I think) is putting out a request for proposals. A replacement has to be approved by landmarks. Based on what criteria? No idea.I vote for a park!
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Oh man, a park would be so damn awesome. Especially since I'm too lazy to trek all the way up to Prospect Park.
I wouldn't object to an aesthetically pleasing residential development there though.
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The site is not so far from Prospect Park, but making it a park would be a huge benefit to people who live further south and east of that location. They are too far from Prospect Park to walk and severely underserved in green and open space.If you look at these maps, especially the first one, making this a park would eliminate some of the purple areas. The tract just south of Bedford and Church has only 1.7 acres for 1,000 residents.More ideal would be a park that's further south and east, but I don't think there is any city land there. Also, the first map counts Holy Cross cemetery as open space, which I suppose it is, but it's definitely not a park.So who do we have to lobby to make this happen?
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The city would have to be the highest bidder.
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Maybe we could get Bette Midler's group involved?"As New York’s only citywide conservancy, we bring private resources to spaces that lack adequate municipal support, fortifying the City’s aging infrastructure and creating a healthier environment for those who live in the most densely populated and least green neighborhoods. - See more at: https://www.nyrp.org/about#sthash.ive0WGqf.dpuf"
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given that PS 90 is at the center of Flatbush's education history, it seems only right that it become a nice big park. Alternatively, it would be awesome to see a real NYC rec center in this area. I used to go to Metropolitan pool and it was a really humble small gym at a ridiculously low price. places like that are a fantastic community resource.but it all likelihood it'll be gross apartments. while the gas station and weird megachurch (I've started calling it "Xanadu" because someone graffitied that on the Erasmus st side) will remain a blight on that intersection for years longer i betdoesn't the city own this lot? or am i mistaken
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Also:What are they going to do with those thousands of 1870s bricks?
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