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The Sea Crest linen site, 46 Crown St. (aka 902 - 920 Franklin) becomes four, 7 story buildings - Page 2 — Brooklynian

The Sea Crest linen site, 46 Crown St. (aka 902 - 920 Franklin) becomes four, 7 story buildings

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  • mcpoet
    mcpoet
    That's funny.  My first thought was also that Associated is going to see a marked uptick in their sales.  Having shopped there for over a decade now, I will say that they seem to be one of the businesses that understands the importance of responding to the changing preferences of the neighborhood. The quality of that store, from how clean it is, to the products and produce they carry, has grown by leaps and bounds.  I was over in Park Slope the other day and saw an Associated that looked like a Whole Foods. I wouldn't be shocked if our Associated started to look like that in short order.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited February 2015
    Yup. Western Beef has them beat on price.

    ...So they know not to go in that direction.

    YIMBY provided a nice "before demolition and construction" aerial photo, however, it should include the SW portion of the block as well.

    image

    The rest of the site is next.

    Here is the DOB link that describes the filing: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=321042304&passdocnumber=01
  • mcpoet
    mcpoet
    edited December 2014
    Does anyone know what the lot with the trailer is just to the right of Associated?  I've always assumed it belonged to Medgar Evers, though I also assumed it was just temporary, but it's been like that for years now.  This would be the lot diagonally across Franklin from the indicated lot.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited December 2014
    I've also assumed that lot is part of MEC. In part because it lines the Crown St Open Space they are working on, and also because there used to be a big single story warehouse on the site.

    It was torn down about the same time a bunch of other buildings were torn down to make way for new MEC buildings and parking lots.

    Perhaps CUNY had the $ to buy the land and tear down the old buildings, but not construct new buildings.

    ...they are only allowed to issue so many bonds.
  • Esperanza
    Esperanza
    It's part of the Dormitory of New York State. The lot is one of their many satellite offices that they use for planning, etc.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited March 2015
    Also of interest is 109 - 111 Montgomery St. It is located on the westside of the shuttle tracks, is a single story structure and is owned by the Botanical Garden as a science center.

    http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/components/photo/pic_view.html?imgname=3-01190-0061.brcC570e&size=medium&type=

    It would not surprise me if, in the somewhat near future, it was sold and then developed. A scenario could be that the first floor would remain a science center which would receive a 99 year from the developer. BBG could create a liquid endowment for itself...


  • dmiami2
    dmiami2
    I'm almost positive i heard that BBG no longer uses that facility anymore...  But they own it.

    My guess is that the old brewery and spice house are next to go.  In fact i heard a rumor the spice house changed hands, but i can't find any data to back that up.    Those are two neat lots that should not be torn down like the old brewery north of EP Franklin IMO.   The spice house is not abandoned. 
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited March 2015
    Correct, the spice factory (former brewery) is open for business and merely believed to have changed hands: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/38820/that-warehouse-for-spices-on-franklin-near-sullivan-used-to-be-a-brewery#Item_8 

    Correct, the BBG no longer uses its science site much. It lost funding for the programming a few years ago, and uses it rarely now.

    Update March 2015:   BBG sold the site and it got its own thread  http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/comment/559266#Comment_559266
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited March 2015

    YIMBY provided a nice "before demolition and construction" aerial photo, however, it should include the SW portion of the block as well.

    image

    The rest of the site is next.

    Here is the DOB link that describes the filing: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=321042304&passdocnumber=01
    Today, I called the firm that owns the site, and requested a rendering for use during a walking tour of the area that I will be leading in early May.

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45201/ms-whynot-and-whynot-design-the-2015-walking-tour-/p1

    Unsurprisingly, the rep stated that he could not (would not) assist me. Plans for the site are still pending. Once they are approved, a real estate website like YIMBY, Curbed or Real Deal will likely publish them.

    Hopefully this happens before May 1.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited March 2015
    Demolition prep is underway.

    Soil testing.image

    Asbestos removal.
    image
  • Esperanza
    Esperanza
    Saw those trucks too. I always wondered what was going into the air when I walked by. There always seemed to be steam coming out.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited April 2015
    Demolition permits granted 4/10/2015

    902 Franklin
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=1&passjobnumber=321098405&passdocnumber=01

    906 Franklin
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=1&passjobnumber=321098405&passdocnumber=01

    42 - 48 Crown
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=3330786&requestid=1

    50 Crown
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=1&passjobnumber=321098389&passdocnumber=01

    135 Montgomery
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=3029722&requestid=1

    141 Montgomery
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=1&passjobnumber=321098361&passdocnumber=01
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    This site will be among those discussed on a walking tour held on Saturday, May 2, 2015.

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45410/a-walking-tour-change-in-sw-crown-heights-will-be-held-saturday-may-2nd-at-2-pm/p1
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    The developer of the Sea Crest site, is also developing the nearby site at 109 Montgomery:

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45342/109-montgomery-street-12-story-building-planned/p1
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Plywood is now up on the NE corner of Franklin and Montgomery. They may be concluding asbestos removal, and gearing up for demolition via excavator.

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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Preparations for the plywood around the rest of the site are now apparent.

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  • Esperanza
    Esperanza
    I was really surprised to see them blocking off the entire sidewalk. I didn't realize they could do that.
  • mugofmead111
    mugofmead111
    If they're going to do that, then shouldn't a temporary pedestrian walkway be erected in the street (like on Lincoln Road by the Prospect Park subway station)?
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    They will likely give the parking lane to pedestrians.

    (Parking a car along a demolition site strikes me as unwise anyway).
  • mugofmead111
    mugofmead111
    edited July 2015
    That's funny. I remember one of the points of contention about Medgar Ever's proposal to close one block of Crown Street to form a pedestrian plaza (for its campus) was that it would rob the community of parking spaces. Well, these parking spaces are going to disappear for an amount of time TBD.

    There wasn't really parking that disappeared in the Lincoln Road example, as that lane are for bus terminals.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    I don't think many locals understand how difficult it will be to park their cars on the street in a few years.

    This is just one of several large projects.
  • dmiami2
    dmiami2
    This is a new topic to tackle for the Brooklynian base....  

    It seems to me that most of the new, large, developments will (or have) include underground parking.   

    I assume the developers of these projects did some analysis to figure out exactly how many parking spots they should create to get additional steady recurring revenue from their tenants.  Or included the max number allowable...  Aside from storage i'm not aware of another good way to make sub floors profitable.   So, I'm guessing that where possible the these new developments have planned for "just enough" parking spots to rent out all spots to new tenants, or even excess they will rent to the public.   

    For example, a building with 100 new units, might include 50 spots.  Assuming half the units will require (and are willing to pay) for a parking spot and any additional they can rent outside of the building...
  • southeast
    southeast
    This is a new topic to tackle for the Brooklynian base....  

    It seems to me that most of the new, large, developments will (or have) include underground parking.   

    I assume the developers of these projects did some analysis to figure out exactly how many parking spots they should create to get additional steady recurring revenue from their tenants.  Or included the max number allowable...  Aside from storage i'm not aware of another good way to make sub floors profitable.   So, I'm guessing that where possible the these new developments have planned for "just enough" parking spots to rent out all spots to new tenants, or even excess they will rent to the public.   

    For example, a building with 100 new units, might include 50 spots.  Assuming half the units will require (and are willing to pay) for a parking spot and any additional they can rent outside of the building...
    For the most part, I've seem developers only include the minimum required.  Real luxury developments (not just by name) may put more than the minimum, but they are few. 
  • mugofmead111
    mugofmead111
    edited July 2015
    This is a new topic to tackle for the Brooklynian base....  

    It seems to me that most of the new, large, developments will (or have) include underground parking.   

    I assume the developers of these projects did some analysis to figure out exactly how many parking spots they should create to get additional steady recurring revenue from their tenants.  Or included the max number allowable...  Aside from storage i'm not aware of another good way to make sub floors profitable.   So, I'm guessing that where possible the these new developments have planned for "just enough" parking spots to rent out all spots to new tenants, or even excess they will rent to the public.   

    For example, a building with 100 new units, might include 50 spots.  Assuming half the units will require (and are willing to pay) for a parking spot and any additional they can rent outside of the building...
    The Plex at Nostrand and Sullivan does rent out a few spaces to an organization other than its tenants: Zipcar. From what I've seen (when I would rent a Zipcar from this location), there aren't that many spaces to begin with.


  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited July 2015
    The building to be built at the Sea Crest site could make lots of money from BBG wedding guests.

    The parking lot behind the museum fills up really quickly with out of town guests, and I suspect they would pay good money to park in this building's garage.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Just adding some shots while I wait for the excavators to arrive.

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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    A good friend provided me these views of how the inside presently looks:


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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    I've been told that parts of the facility were already no longer in use when it closed in January of 2014.

    The photos seem to show that demolition crews have already removed the top "tar" portions of the roof. I presume that is because such materials can not be taken to same recycling and landfill facilities that the rest of the building will soon be hauled to.
  • mugofmead111
    mugofmead111
    I wish I had the access to be able to get these pics, especially of the chimney. #jealous

    I thought about snapping some pics for a later photo essay - the way Brooklyn was. 
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    An excavator has arrived, and is beginning to gnaw at the southern part of the site.   

    When it gets close to the smoke stack, I might see if I can get video.
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