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1059 Union St- Ground Zero for Landlord/Tenant battles? - Page 4 — Brooklynian

1059 Union St- Ground Zero for Landlord/Tenant battles?

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  • I don't necessarily want to be the richest person in a poor neighborhood.; people tend to be very jealous of them, and rob them.

    But I have concluded that I do not want to be the poorest in my neighborhood; I don't believe those who say that living on the dole is fun.
  • I wouldn't mind being the poorest in a rich neighborhood. Frankly, I'm probably the least well off out of all the people the wife and I are friends with but it never bothered me. Matter of fact, I'm really not "well off" at all.
  • whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    While I was not poor, I was once the poorest in very rich neighborhood. Between 2000 and 2003, I lived in the one of the only apartment buildings in affluent Irvington NY.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvington,_New_York

    In general, I knew the pros and cons of living there, and could pass in most settings.

    ...but I do remember the looks I would receive when getting out of my 10 year old Toyota Corolla.

    And, I do remember the people on Metro North.

    When I sat by them they would make what they thought was innocuous small talk, like "Where did you Summer?"

    If I had answered honestly I would have said: "Um, right here. At my job making $34k a year."

    ...but I usually made something up about "summering" with friends in a non descript location.
  • I think we the state of the economy in the last few years no one would look down on anyone who said they had a great staycation. As for me, I'll spend this summer roasting at Jones Beach. The yearly parking pass was only $45.
  • My personal economy has greatly improved since the early 2000s. I'll likely get to local beaches as well as North Carolina this summer.

    It seems as if this year's excitement over rent stabilization has two chapters, the first chapter ends on June 15th when state politicians decide how to modify and renew the regulations.

    Then, the saga moves to Rent Guidelines Board.
  • whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    BTW, any revolution seems unlikely to stem from the CH Tenants Union.  
    Photos posted by them show the crowd on June 13 (two days before the
    rent stabilization rules are due to be renewed) as being less that 50
    people.

     
    Screen shot 2015-06-13 at 8.15.33 PM

    While approximately 5000 people attended a pop up dinner in Prospect Park wherein guests were asked to wear white


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  • I saw people dressed in white when I came through the Propsect Park train station last night, and I knew right away that the Dinner en Blanc crew had to have been in Prospect Park.

    I wonder 1) why TPTB allowed rent regulations to get down to the wire and 2) whether that's a bad sign.
  • I don't perceive any entity being in charge of Albany.

    So, I believe the down to wire thing as unplanned, unnecessary drama before their inevitable renewal.

    ....but some politicians are certainly utilizing the situation to cast themselves as being the sole advocates for their constituents.
  • whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    Take the vacant storefronts back from the landlords??? And do what with them !!??
    @pragmaticguy -
    It seems the present effort surrounds not allowing an aspiring bar to get a liquor lic:
    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-not-a-new-coffee-shop-maybe-a-bar#Item_54

    One should note that their efforts to "have the landlord upgrade rent stabilized apartments" and "have their fellow tenants turn down buyouts" seem to have been unsuccessful.

  • It's hard for a group to be taken seriously when emotions get in the way of cogent arguments. So, people will continue to take the buyouts but I wonder if the ones who stay look at them as traitors in that there's less of the "old time" tenants to fight or maybe the old time tenants are just tired of fighting and it's easier for them to leave.
  • whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    If I am ever in the situation where I am offered a buyout and am told that I am abandoning my class/race/hue by accepting it, OR if I merely choose to move and am accused of same, I hope I have the courage to say "If we all move together, we can create the same demographics in (insert destination) that we have here!"

    :)
  • Soon the oligarchs will have taken over all of Manhattan, and investment bankers will be displaced to Crown Heights, and hipsters/new grads to City Line, and social workers and nurses to Babylon.
  • "Broadway Junction used to be cool before they opened a J. Crew."
  • OG used to stand for Original Gangster, now it stands for Olive Garden.
  • I'm surprised an Olive Garden hasn't made it downtown yet.
  • There is one in ENY.
      
    Screen shot 2015-06-23 at 10.20.32 PM

    Arguably, the new bar that plans to move into the base of 1059 Union has 6 other locations.   They just have different names.

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-not-a-new-coffee-shop-maybe-a-bar#Item_74


  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    @pragmaticguy -

    This guy just wrote a report on how the tenants' movement has lost power over the last years: http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/08/13/tenant-advocates-lost-political-muscle-over-last-18-years-report/
  • mugofmead111
    edited August 2015
    There is one in ENY.
      
    Screen shot 2015-06-23 at 10.20.32 PM

    Arguably, the new bar that plans to move into the base of 1059 Union has 6 other locations.   They just have different names.

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45213/franklin-and-union-not-a-new-coffee-shop-maybe-a-bar#Item_74


    I've been to that one once. I have to take a minimum of two buses to get there and that would take over an hour. Too bad, since I like the Gateway shopping center. 


    @whynot_31 - Re: this quote from the article linked above:

    "The waning power can be traced back to Pataki’s decision to reinstitute vacancy deregulation in 1997, allowing apartments to become market rate when unit rents hit $2,000 ($2,973 in today’s dollars, adjusted for inflation), advocates told WNYC. Cuomo set the limit at $2,700 a few weeks ago."

    The limit of vacancy decontrol hasn't kept pace with inflation. If the article's figures are correct, it's $300 less of where it should be.
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    While the limit is an important number, I would like to see a well written article that discussed how many units remain under rent stabilization, broken out by unit size and cost.

    I find it pretty funny when the advocates believe they have achieved something when they keep a $2400, 1BR apartment rent stabilized.

    Or, when they fail to understand that Preferential Rents are not a right; The only things preventing landlords from charging the Max Legal Rent is the market and an existing lease.
  • Or, when they fail to understand that Preferential Rents are not a right; The only things preventing landlords from charging the Max Legal Rent is the market and an existing lease.
    I remember when someone the comments section on Gothamist, in response to an article about this past battle to renew rent regulations, said something like, "Well, what about preferential rent tenants like me?" I couldn't help but think, "This isn't quite your battle (because preferential rents are a different animal all together)."
  • whynot_31
    edited December 2015

    I am not certain that this unit is in 1059 Union, but it certainly could be.   ( 4 x $900 = $3600).


    http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/roo/5350274981.html

    quote:

    "One room available in 4bd/1.5ba Crown Heights apartment located at Franklin Ave and Union St. Rent for room is $900. Utilities are ~$70 per month and include gas, electric, cable (HBO, Showtime), wifi and a cleaning lady. Super close (~1-2 min walk) to Franklin Ave subway (2, 3, 4, 5, S). Security deposit is $900 and would be returned upon move-out given no damage has been done. Pictured room is smaller, closet-less version of the available room.

    About the roommates:

    One woman works in publishing. She's quiet and not around often (she has family in the city), but is always friendly.

    A married couple with the greatest sense of humor share another room. They have a cabin upstate and travel a lot so they're also rarely around.

    One woman works at an ad agency. She's friendly, funny and has a very cute kitty.

     Overall, the apartment is fairly quiet due to everyone's schedules. The cleaning lady does a deep clean once a month and then we all keep the place tidy (dishes, bathroom sinks, etc) during the interim. I really love our location. It's so convenient for catching the subway (we have both eastside and westside lines, plus the shuttle to the A/C), close to the park and centrally located for other bk hoods (great for biking) and close to all of the great places on Franklin Ave (there is Butter & Scotch on the corner and another bar going in across the street) and Washington Ave in Prospect Heights.

    Move-in would be January 1st though this is somewhat flexible as the room is currently vacant. Let us know a little about yourself and what you're looking for - thanks!"

  • Sounds like the northwest corner above Butter & Scotch. The $900 includes gas, electric, wifi, cable and cleaning lady, so rent alone is probably around $825. The couple might pay more though so your total estimate may still be right. They also may be charging more for the room as a sublet. We can only guess.

    5 people for 1.5 bathrooms (1 shower) is brutal. I guess they're not always around so that helps.
  • Yes, upon a closer read, it sounds as if might be on Union, west of Franklin near the shuttle tracks. 

    My theory is that the lease is actually under the name of the married couple.

    ...I am also assuming that unit was renovated to degree that it could legally escape the $2700 rent stabilization cap.    

    Given people's willingness/need/ability to live in such arrangements, there is really no way that the Crown Heights Tenant Union or local politicians could be successful at preserving the present uses of the housing stock, or the demographics presently in place.


     
  • Brooklyneya
    edited December 2015
    Yes, I think high demand will always fuel gentrification. My friend just signed a lease for a one bedroom on Union above butter & scotch for $2500. Initially I thought that was insane, but after I helped her with the apartment search, I learned that there were no better options. Either crappy apartments, crappy prices, or in most cases, both. She started out with a lower budget and higher apartment standards, but had to "settle" in the end.

    The unions and advocacy could help individual cases of wrongdoing, perhaps, but I don't think they can change the trajectory of change. Unless a mass exodus of New Yorkers occurs, there will always be high demand.
  • All these people with what sound like decent jobs and incomes and they can't afford their own place. Now maybe they want to live that way but maybe it's just sad.
  • whynot_31
    edited December 2015

    I suspect that their jobs are not real stable, and/or they are saddled with student loan debt.

    I don't know that I see it as sad.  

    ....I would prefer to be in a craigslist sharing situation in Crown Heights than be in a small town.

  • The couple travels a lot and has a cabin upstate and one gal works at an ad agency. Sounds stable to me. Rather live alone in a small apartment than share a unit with others.
  • whynot_31
    edited March 2016
    This seems to have occurred tonight:

    "In honor of the Crown Heights Tenant Union 2 year anniversary, we are having a neighborhood march to release our new platform! 

    We will be highlighting buildings currently fighting to demand their landlords STOP UTILIZING TACTICS OF HARASSMENT to displace their neighbors along with TREATING THE TENANTS WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT!

    When - MARCH 6th Sunday night at 7pm 
    Where- 1030 Carroll street 

    What- In honor of the CHTU 2 year anniversary and the march to release our new platform, in addition The Illuminators is parterning with us and creating a LIGHT SHOW to showcase the isses of the builings we will be rallying in front of and also the issues of the community in regards to affortable housing!

    There will be another event on Thursday:   
    at 10:30 AM in EST
    https://www.facebook.com/events/983277708417808/Screen Shot 2016-03-06 at 11.15.10 PM
  • whynot_31
    edited April 2016

    Returning to 1059 Union, it has changed hands.   The prior owner may have made over $4m in the short period they had it, and the advocates now have a new opponent.

    "1.) Sterling Equites is the new owner of a rental building at 1059 Union Street in Crown Heights, where tenants rallied against the previous landlord, BCB Management. Sterling paid $17.9 million for the five-story building, which holds 32 apartments and five commercial units. Debrah Lee Charatan and Bennat Charatan Berger’s BCB Property Management sold the building last year to entity listed as 829-835 Franklin Avenue Residences LLC for $13.2 million, not long after tenants alleged BCB was illegally converting apartments and attempting to evict residents."

    http://therealdeal.com/2016/04/04/heres-what-the-10m-20m-nyc-investment-sales-market-looked-like-last-week-63/


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