Live south of Eastern Parkway? Want to talk with NYPD reps about crime? Wednesday, June 24th.

whynot_31 · June 2015

whynot_31 · June 2015

Although they won't be speaking at the event, the Federally funded ATF will working closely with the NYPD this summer.

In an interesting move, this will allow them to prosecutes larger numbers of the sale of guns in NYC from presumably out of state as a federal crimes, as opposed to NYS ones.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/15/cbs2-exclusive-atf-gun-crime/

whynot_31 · June 2015

now with better grammar:
In an interesting move, this will allow them to prosecute larger numbers of gun sales in NYC as a federal crimes, as opposed to NYS crimes. The guns often come from out of state.

whynot_31 · June 2015

A summary of last night's meeting: https://degreeoflife.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/hot-basement/

pheightsresident · June 2015

It was a pretty heated meeting at points. In my view, the great majority of the attacks on the police (both the officers present and in general) were uncalled for and/or showed ignorance of policing/basis statistics. Still, I feel that the meeting was productive and there was a lot of good information shared.

whynot_31 · June 2015

The police increasingly have the resources to enforce laws in areas like Flatbush, and the business districts are starting to get organized/powerful and apply pressure.

So, I think the next few summers are going to be quite intense in Church Avenue and beyond.

Those interested in a meeting with bigger name speakers could attend this upcoming one: http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=ca0fb41d668202ba6cc542ca8&id=c030859e7d&e=b04317f9a2

whynot_31 · June 2015

Last night's mtg was covered by Gothamist: http://gothamist.com/2015/06/25/prospect_lefferts_gardens_crime.php

RudolfAhrens · June 2015

In Flatbush alone you have the Gap, Old Navy, Kings Theater, Walgreens, Chase Bank, McDonalds, Target, Nike, Staples, Payless, Dunkin Donuts, Models, Key Food, Duane Reed, etc. etc., plus all the mom and pop stores.

That's several $100m in development. Kings Theater alone is several hundred million. All these businesses are making money off of Flatbush ( in a supposedly low income neighborhood).

Did any of these businesses send reps to the crime meetings? What are they doing about the shootings outside their stores? Don't they have a lot more time and money than any single resident to put pressure on the police?

whynot_31 · June 2015

Businesses are usually smart enough to meet with police in an environment where they are not interrupted.

....They with call Community Affairs to set up a mtg, rather than watch the far left and far right yell in an unairconditioned basement on a Wednesday evening.

pheightsresident · June 2015

Agree. Except that, in the case of Wednesday night's meeting, it was basically a battle of the different factions of the left.

whynot_31 · June 2015

In some ways, I miss living in a neighborhood with a far right.

I am recalling a relative's story ...she lives in a southern town where gov attempted to install parking meters over the objection of members of the far right, who (needless to say) thought they represented taxation and tyranny.

After installation, some of the activists destroyed all of the meters by hitting them with sledgehammers and their pickup trucks.

Our idiots are different.

pheightsresident · June 2015

I just want more of a mix, generally! I love seeing the left, right, and middle going. But, at that meeting on Wednesday, Hillary Clinton would've been considered on the right. I doubt I'll see much different in this part of Brooklyn anytime soon, though.

whynot_31 · June 2015

They have to be the right kind of right wing people.

As alluded to above, our Chamber of Commerce and REBNY people are not powerless to the degree that they feel public meetings are a good use of their time.

We might have to go to a meeting on Staten Island or in some parts of Suffolk County to really get some people who are right wing, poor, and scared.

I'll look in my closet to see if I have anything appropriate to wear.

suppleknuckles · June 2015

i was there. that imani henry guy is a huge jerk. i didn't say shit though. i just watched. it was definitely a shit show. honestly though if imani henry wasn't there it would have been at least 30% less disorganized and pointless. every time someone else who wasn't black spoke he would keep a running commentary of very audible muttering to the people around him, and every time a cop spoke he'd just start loudly making accusations. basically, speaking over every single person whether they were on his side or not. and also making a big show of creeping servility to any black woman over the age of 40--i could tell from their expressions that most were unimpressed.

anyway, i don't see it as a right vs. left issue at all. i almost feel like the divide was mostly among those with realistic goals, and those who leaned far more idealistic, with broader, nation-wide concerns. ....i tended towards the former, since i think people in our precincts deserve above all not to be in the path of a stray bullet. suffice to say most of the people in the latter category all seemed rather young.

..also that degreeoflife blog guy's weird comment about "the latinos were conspicuously absent" irked me a lot. not sure why non-latinos feel the need to define what we should look like. :T

whynot_31 · June 2015

I think we are all articulating the reasons why the police prefer to have meetings in which the format is, they present statistics and accomplishments, take a few questions, and then tell everyone that the meeting is over because they only reserved the room for 1.5 hours.

I'd do the same thing.

whynot_31 · June 2015

BTW, here are some citywide stats on crime, relative to this week:

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2015/06/8571205/decline-reported-major-crimes-citywide

Live south of Eastern Parkway? Want to talk with NYPD reps about crime? Wednesday, June 24th.

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