East New York

southeast · October 2014

Self certify... This can get messy.

whynot_31 · October 2014

Yup. ...my hope is that they get only experienced architects to develop the affordable housing.

Otherwise, they will be able to build the housing but not occupy them because DOB won't issue a cert of occupancy when it is "ready".

prodigalson · October 2014

Does anyone remember the old boxing club on Georgia Ave & Livonia? Anybody have pics of the old place? How about action photos of sports played at Jefferson Sand Field?

whynot_31 · October 2014

Open Lottery:

whynot_31 · November 2014

Ready?

whynot_31 · December 2014

It is hard to hate development when it is HDFC:

http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/12/dob-digest-hdfc-files-for-8-story-housing-building-at-918-east-new-york-avenue-in-east-flatbush-more.html

whynot_31 · January 2015

Here comes the plan by the city to improve (or, depending on who you ask, "eliminate") East New York:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/east-new-york-gentrification.html

prodigalson · January 2015

The government issues taxpayer financed agricultural subsidies which enhance incomes and assist farmers in managing the cost/supply of commodities. Depending on which website you wish to believe, handouts of this kind are anywhere from $10-30 billion per year. This process has taken place for decades. Perhaps the government can do the same for those who wish to invest in building up their own houses in the urban areas. This enables people to invest more of their resources and of themselves in their neighborhoods. I suggest this would improve an area better than by just increasing public housing.

Such a program could well lead to more gentrification. But it would not necessarily displace people who already live in places like ENY and who wish to invest in private housing.

whynot_31 · January 2015

In the future, we may need such programs in order to allow persons who work for the city in very moderate paying positions (DSNY, DOE, HRA, etc) to afford to live here.

...but at present, we have hundreds of applicants for such positions.

They seem to being commuting long distances and/or crowding into apartments.

xlizellx · January 2015

When I first moved to brooklyn a decade ago to start teaching I was making like 38k. I would have loved an apartment building for other teachers/city workers who make enough to survive but not a lot. other cities have such programs to get people with such jobs to live in less-desirable areas.

ehgee · January 2015

Very little of Brooklyn qualifies as less-desirable today. I think you need to go to the South Bronx for that.

Which seems like it'd be pretty decent! With the big beautiful buildings on the Grand Concourse, and good train service to Manhattan, and some solid Mexican food around. The schools probably aren't great, but the area doesn't seem that dangerous— the 6 train wasn't running when I was coming home late from a party at a friend's art studio, so I needed to walk over to the 3 train or something with a couple other friends, and it seemed perfectly fine. Not 'wear earbuds and stare at your brand new iPhone' fine, but there seemed to be enough legitimate business & pedestrian traffic along with police patrol that things felt OK.

I'd guess today's South Bronx is far safer than 1995 (or maybe even 2000) Brooklyn.

whynot_31 · January 2015

When I first moved to brooklyn a decade ago to start teaching I was making like 38k. I would have loved an apartment building for other teachers/city workers who make enough to survive but not a lot. other cities have such programs to get people with such jobs to live in less-desirable areas.

Teachers are unique in that they are younger and more educated than the other groups of city workers I mention.

As a result, I expect them to move far more often than the residents of developments that were built in the past for that mix.

...Ebbbetts Field, Stuyvesant Town, and the Mitchell Lamas come to mind.

whynot_31 · February 2015

Returning to East NY, this old bank building is about to be torndown and become a 7 story medical building.

http://newyorkyimby.com/2015/02/seven-story-medical-office-building-coming-to-101-pennsylvania-avenue-east-new-york.html

For those familiar with the area, it is across the street from what may be the most depressing post office in NYC:

http://goo.gl/maps/XcENP

whynot_31 · March 2015

It is also hard to hate change when it comes in the form of yummy chicken wings.

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/super-wings-restaurant-opening-new-branch-article-1.2141459

morralkan · March 2015

I'm not sure I agree with you about that post office. When I worked in the district office for the schools in that area, I often mailed letters from that office on my way work, generally about 8AM. The service was quick and polite. Mid-morninng was fine also. It was only in the late afternoon that the post officer there was crowded as hell. Was the service as good as the PO on 34th and Park? No, but it was often better than my regular PO on St Johns and Troy.

pragmaticguy · March 2015

The building on Penn has been vacant since the M & T bank built a new branch at the corner of Atlantic and New Jersey though the owners were trying to rent it for over a year. As for the picture of the post office....that must have been taken a few years back because now ribbon barbed wire runs around the whole roof. I pass by it every morning on my way in.

whynot_31 · May 2015

I never thought I would see a mainstream realtor advertise a property on Cleveland Street

http://www.terracrg.com/setups/374-376_Cleveland_Street.pdf

pragmaticguy · May 2015

$675K is not bad considering you get the building and the extra lot. Figure the owner will take 650. So if the building needs about 300K worth of work and you can get two more apartments in the first floor you have nine units for less than $1 mil. Problem is with all the stairs on the side the building looks like a jail. If the parking lot can be rented there might be some money to be made here.

whynot_31 · May 2015

I think you are better off tearing it all down and rebuilding from scratch after the upzone.

whynot_31 · May 2015

These income limits are pretty low.

"Thousands will enter, 223 will win"

whynot_31 · June 2015

In response to low income people being displaced by folks who have more, gov has announced they want no one's rights to be violated. They want this to be a smooth, market transition that plays by the rules

prodigalson · June 2015

Can you believe I grew up in the original 494 Sheffield Avenue building!

These income limits are pretty low.

"Thousands will enter, 223 will win"

whynot_31 · July 2015

Next up, basic things that should have been in place for decades, but now warrant attention: http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-pol-transfer-east-new-york-subway-stations-article-1.2283534

southeast · July 2015

I posted that on the Utica Ave Subway thread. So... do you think this will happen? If yes, when?

whynot_31 · July 2015

The MTA's capital plan is very underfunded, but this project could still happen if developers think the area needs more amenities in order to fill their units.

NYC is going to have to do a lot if it wants ENY to become the place where hundreds of thousands of economically viable affordable housing units grow.

....it can be done, but isn't going to cheap.

southeast · July 2015

For some reason, I get the feeling it can be a relatively cheap fix; that is, if they wanted it to be.

whynot_31 · July 2015

Public transportation is just part of the improvements that are needed.

I hope google street view is driving the area regularly, because even if DeBlasio fails at creating genuinely "affordable" housing ENY is going be far more residential in 10 years than it is now.

whynot_31 · July 2015

BTW, this guy grew up in a housing project in ENY and now has a net worth that exceeds $1 Billion. http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20150717/FINANCE/150719890

pragmaticguy · July 2015

To spoil all the good news....listening to the scanner in my office.....level 1 mobilization, confirmed male shot at 1250 Sutter Ave.

whynot_31 · July 2015

Shootings on Blake, Sutter, Pennsylvania and Livonia Aves remain pretty common.

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