Let's talk about something really serious (Beer/Bodegas)

the owner guy said that when they renovated the bodega that had to re-apply for a liquor license and that takes a long time or something. maybe it changed ownership or something? i don't know. someday they will have beer, he said...

Refusing to shop there over not selling beer? Between Licoln and Sterling there are 3 other bodegas that sell beer and they are all open 24 hours, but you have to order through a rotating window thing from 12 or 1 til about 6 a.m. There is plenty of beer all night in our neighborhood. They guy who is usually there throughout the day (name escapes me) is a nice guy and a decent conversationalist to boot while one waits for their sandwiches, etc. The people who aren't selling beer have every right to do so. Whatever, but to complain and say that you're not happy and feel as if you have the right to complain to them is silly, don't you think?

There are many other bodegas on Washington Ave. that are across or down the street from the place that doesn't have what you want. Can't believe anyone would compare the "right" to have an aborion as being the same as the "ability" to get a beer on one corner in Brooklyn. That is some crazy shit!

Note that I actually wrote that "I think it would be silly to argue that they have an 'obligation' to anyone in the neighborhood to sell beer [...], in the way that one may make an argument that a Catholic hospital may be obligated to perform abortions [...]." I'm clearly not comparing the two, but instead saying that someone else might try to make that comparison, which is logically poor. Please send me a PM if this is not clear, since I don't want you to believe that I'm full of "some crazy shit".

We agree that "The people who aren't selling beer have every right to do so", but I think that anyone has "the right to complain to them", even if you and I may think that it's something silly to complain about. This may be particularly true given what you say about other places nearby that not only sell beer, but sell it 24/7. And it doesn't matter very much to me right now that they don't sell beer at all, since I try to make sure that I stock up on what I need, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with complaining about it. (It's just a complaint that they can act on or else ignore.)

I just think it's unfortunate that there is one less place to buy beer, since it limits the choices. And even though there may be plenty of beer at three other places now, if they too start to stop selling it (for example, if this place and one of those are owned by people with a similar objection to it), pretty soon you and I will be able to say "There goes our neighborhood": they've removed all the alcohol.

It's a creeping process that's as upsetting to me as "gentrification" may be to others. Again, a statement that's probably going to get me into some trouble, but what can I say? It's in my blood (or it ought to be). And I think we should celebrate, and maybe even encourage, this diversity; the days of Prohibition are behind us.

escap wrote: How do you feel about the ban of hard liquor sales on Sunday? Anyone else outraged by this? How is that law not a violation of the separation of church and state? What if I'm a Jew who "rests" on Saturday but wants to be open for business on Sunday? Or a drunk who wants to buy whiskey on Sunday morning? Damn it, why did I have to be born into the most religious country in the West? :x :x

Interestingly, some of the most atheistic countries in the world (to be found in Northern Europe / Scandinavia) ban sales of alcohol (outside bars/restaurants) on Sundays. Except for muslim residents... for some reason they sell outside regular hours and no one seems to mind. Go figure.

Errr, must have happened while I was away :oops: --I stand corrected. Well, anyway, that pisses me off retroactively, and I'm quite pleased to see the that the law changed (even though evidently it doesn't apply to me).

Can I buy a sixpack on Sunday mornings now too?

escap wrote:
Can I buy a sixpack on Sunday mornings now too?

Yup, as of just a couple of months ago: http://abc.state.ny.us/announcements/mediaadvisory072806.pdf

Um, people,

The guys who work in that bodega are really friendly and really courteous. When I asked them if they'd be selling beer again, they said they had to wait to get their liquor license renewed (and in NYC, that can take a long, long time). They used to sell beer before the renovation, so I believe them. I'm glad they redid their store, even if it means I have to cross the street to get beer, because it's cleaner and more well lit than it was a few months ago. And if they're not selling beer for religious reasons (or pork for that matter), that's their business. They still have things that the other corner bodegas on Washington don't have - like organic milk, yogurt, soy milk - for those of us in need of a healthy fix.

while you guys go on about beer, I'm happy about living in a neighborhood that has bodegas that sell cherry pepsi and cherry coke!!!

They still have things that the other corner bodegas on Washington don't have - like organic milk, yogurt, soy milk - for those of us in need of a healthy fix.

Surprisingly enough, the filthy-looking (but not really all that dirty) little bodega-posing-as-an-Associated Supermarket, at the corner of Underhill and St.Johns, also has organic milk and yogurt and a whole array of fake meat products (Boca burgers, etc.).

So, why was anyone bitching about it in the first place?

Beer? Duh?

I love beer too, but I don't love a boycott!

Drinking beer right now, and I need more, um, where do I go?

Shit, there are a few beer bodegas near me? Where do I go? Oh shit that 1 place doesn't have beer!

BOYCOTT! They have everything else I love but beer, fuck em!

Never, ever, ever, ever going there again! Just gonna go up to Lincoln for some Dogfish, Sierra, Miller, Bud, etc, etc.....

I need BEER!